http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


--
Adam

On 22/12/2012 16:20, ARW wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


Do people actually believe all this bollox?

--
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On Saturday, December 22, 2012 4:35:21 PM UTC, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 22/12/2012 16:20, ARW wrote:

http://www.ancientpurity.com/



WTF is the Silver Generator?





Do people actually believe all this bollox?



They must do. Same people as the Russ Andrews hifi guff ? Maybe the colloidal silver generator would weave you some Silver Power Kords ?

The pinhole glasses idea actually is interesting (not just available on this site).
Info he
http://www.seeing.org/visiontd/articles/pinholes.html

Simon.

On 22/12/12 16:35, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 22/12/2012 16:20, ARW wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


Do people actually believe all this bollox?


I think this say a lot :-

Disclaimer : The products and the claims made about specific products
on or through this site are not approved to diagnose, treat, cure or
prevent disease. The information provided on this site is for
informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for
advice from your physician or other health care professional or any
information contained on or in any product label or packaging. You
should not use the information on this site for diagnosis or treatment
of any health problem or for prescription of any medication or other
treatment. You should consult with a healthcare professional before
starting any diet, exercise or supplementation program, before taking
any medication, or if you have or suspect you might have a health
problem. Prices and promotions are subject to change without notice.

Andy C

Yes saw that, I was wondering whether supernatural drinks and liquids make
you into a ghost?
also Ozone is quite a toxic substance, not to be breathed in too much!

Brian

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"Andy Cap" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 22/12/12 16:35, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 22/12/2012 16:20, ARW wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


Do people actually believe all this bollox?


I think this say a lot :-

Disclaimer : The products and the claims made about specific products on
or through this site are not approved to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent
disease. The information provided on this site is for informational
purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for advice from your
physician or other health care professional or any information contained
on or in any product label or packaging. You should not use the
information on this site for diagnosis or treatment of any health problem
or for prescription of any medication or other treatment. You should
consult with a healthcare professional before starting any diet, exercise
or supplementation program, before taking any medication, or if you have
or suspect you might have a health problem. Prices and promotions are
subject to change without notice.

Andy C

On 22/12/2012 16:35, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 22/12/2012 16:20, ARW wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


Do people actually believe all this bollox?

Can't see why people would invest in setting up such sites unless others
did at least buy things from them. Whether that really is to believe in
them is another matter. Desperation is a very strong driver of people's
actions. If people are ill and current day medicine is failing to help,
they try things like this rather than give up and not try anything.

One of the older disorders that had largely disappeared was argyria -
when skin goes blue/bluish grey due to excess intake of silver. But that
has made a return with people using lots of silver as their own
"antibiotic". This generator claims to convert a simple rod of silver
into nano-particles which have special attributes.

Those who get argyria seem to say "that's the price of curing myself".

Living with someone who has chronic painful disorders I can see why
people fall for these things. That our medical systems leave so many
people effectively unhelped and unable to get any help is something I
had not realised was so prevalent. If you have a disorder for which
there is not an obvious specialist, what does your GP do? The answer is
that at best they send you round several non-obvious specialists and try
to assist with symptomatic relief. At worst, they dismiss your problems,
suggest it is all in your head, put you on anti-depressants, and refuse
any referrals.

--
Rod

On 22/12/2012 16:48, polygonum wrote:

Living with someone who has chronic painful disorders I can see why
people fall for these things. That our medical systems leave so many
people effectively unhelped and unable to get any help is something I
had not realised was so prevalent. If you have a disorder for which
there is not an obvious specialist, what does your GP do? The answer is
that at best they send you round several non-obvious specialists and try
to assist with symptomatic relief. At worst, they dismiss your problems,
suggest it is all in your head, put you on anti-depressants, and refuse
any referrals.

This is one of the dichotomies of a number of "alternative" treatments -
many are valueless in clinical terms, and yet they do achieve real
benefits for some patients in situations where conventional medicine
seems to fail them. Perhaps it really comes down to having someone take
a genuine interest in your problem, and not treating you as a crank, and
then secondly, the patient actually believing that the treatment will
have a positive benefit. The placebo effect is real and demonstrable.


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On 23/12/2012 00:13, John Rumm wrote:
On 22/12/2012 16:48, polygonum wrote:

Living with someone who has chronic painful disorders I can see why
people fall for these things. That our medical systems leave so many
people effectively unhelped and unable to get any help is something I
had not realised was so prevalent. If you have a disorder for which
there is not an obvious specialist, what does your GP do? The answer is
that at best they send you round several non-obvious specialists and try
to assist with symptomatic relief. At worst, they dismiss your problems,
suggest it is all in your head, put you on anti-depressants, and refuse
any referrals.

This is one of the dichotomies of a number of "alternative" treatments -
many are valueless in clinical terms, and yet they do achieve real
benefits for some patients in situations where conventional medicine
seems to fail them. Perhaps it really comes down to having someone take
a genuine interest in your problem, and not treating you as a crank, and
then secondly, the patient actually believing that the treatment will
have a positive benefit. The placebo effect is real and demonstrable.


The pattern I so often see (in the particular things with which I am
familiar), is this. People try a new treatment and sometimes seem to get
some benefit, say how wonderful they are feeling a bit better. After a
while they stop mentioning it. Later still, they are asked how it is
going and "admit" that they have given it up either because it was not
working, the side-effects were too much, or whatever else.

Unfortunately, standard medicine has a number of products which cannot
simply be given up and require a very long, slow process of tapering off
them in order not to cause big problems.

Fortunately, there is a considerable range of things which could be
classed as safe (or fairly safe) to try out for oneself and which might
have positive effects. Provided they are used with sufficient research,
care and thought, I'd include vitamin B12, apple cider vinegar,
selenium, dietary exclusions, vitamin D. At the same time, some things
often regarded as fairly innocuous can be quite dangerous - iron-based
supplements (unless you have demonstrable iron-deficiency), folates
(unless you have demonstrable B12 sufficiency).

Some of these allow many cycles of trying to DIY fix yourself - with
little real danger. (Perhaps the biggest issue is missing out on timely
diagnoses and treatments rather than the things themselves.) And,
inasmuch as placebo works when DIY, then that effect too.

And some of these things DO work.

--
Rod

On 23/12/2012 08:10, polygonum wrote:

The pattern I so often see (in the particular things with which I am
familiar), is this. People try a new treatment and sometimes seem to get
some benefit, say how wonderful they are feeling a bit better. After a
while they stop mentioning it. Later still, they are asked how it is
going and "admit" that they have given it up either because it was not
working, the side-effects were too much, or whatever else.

Much like many of the Amazon reviews. The 5 star reviews are from the
people who received the product the day before and still believe the
manufactures claims. The 1 star reviews are from people who have been
using the product for a few weeks.


--
mailto:news{at}admac(dot}myzen{dot}co{dot}uk

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:35:21 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


Do people actually believe all this bollox?

ICBA to visit the site but silver *is* an antibiotic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_uses_of_silver
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_sulfadiazine

I guess this lot are hanging far too much on the wrong hook on the basis
that the Great Unwashed with too much money are also too thick to do
basic backround research.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:20:45 -0000, "ARW"
wrote:

http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7up1MzwxhI

--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

Graham. wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:20:45 -0000, "ARW"
wrote:

http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7up1MzwxhI


Better than David Essex

--
Adam

On Dec 22, 4:20*pm, "ARW" wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?

--
Adam

Silver has some medical benifits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver

On 22/12/2012 16:50, harry wrote:
On Dec 22, 4:20 pm, "ARW" wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?

--
Adam

Silver has some medical benifits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver

That link reminded me:

"In the United States, the FDA prohibits the sale of over-the-counter
silver-containing drugs because they have not been shown to be safe and
effective."

A generator of silver nano-particles/colloids gets round that rather neatly.

--
Rod

On Dec 22, 5:14*pm, polygonum wrote:
On 22/12/2012 16:50, harry wrote: On Dec 22, 4:20 pm, "ARW" wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?

--
Adam

Silver has some medical benifits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver

That link reminded me:

"In the United States, the FDA prohibits the sale of over-the-counter
silver-containing drugs because they have not been shown to be safe and
effective."

A generator of silver nano-particles/colloids gets round that rather neatly.

--
Rod

A few years back there was some talk of using silver in the NHS. for
various things.
One of the ideas was silver plated light switches to kill bugs & so
reduce cross infection.

Dunno what came of it all.

"harry" wrote in message
...
On Dec 22, 5:14 pm, polygonum wrote:
On 22/12/2012 16:50, harry wrote: On Dec 22, 4:20 pm, "ARW"
wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?

--
Adam

Silver has some medical benifits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver

That link reminded me:

"In the United States, the FDA prohibits the sale of over-the-counter
silver-containing drugs because they have not been shown to be safe and
effective."

A generator of silver nano-particles/colloids gets round that rather
neatly.

--
Rod

A few years back there was some talk of using silver in the NHS. for
various things.
One of the ideas was silver plated light switches to kill bugs & so
reduce cross infection.

Dunno what came of it all.

The vampires put a stop to it.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:28:04 -0800 (PST), harry wrote:

"In the United States, the FDA prohibits the sale of over-the-counter
silver-containing drugs because they have not been shown to be safe
and effective."

Context? Colloidal silver certainly hasn't been proven to have any real
medical benefits but other silver compounds have and are used.

A few years back there was some talk of using silver in the NHS. for
various things. One of the ideas was silver plated light switches to
kill bugs & so reduce cross infection.

Copper or brass is cheaper...

Maybe they ought to install these:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CEXVT1.html

But you'd want them as bare metal, before the lacquer has been applied...
Then I expect people would complain about the patina that would develope,
or the shock risk (the fact that everywhere these days has CPC wouldn't
be relevant). But it is seemingly silly simple things like using brass
light switches that could reduce cross infection rates. If a bug lasts 6
hrs on a plastic switch and only 3 on a brass one...

--
Cheers
Dave.

In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:28:04 -0800 (PST), harry wrote:

"In the United States, the FDA prohibits the sale of over-the-counter
silver-containing drugs because they have not been shown to be safe
and effective."

Context? Colloidal silver certainly hasn't been proven to have any real
medical benefits but other silver compounds have and are used.

A few years back there was some talk of using silver in the NHS. for
various things. One of the ideas was silver plated light switches to
kill bugs & so reduce cross infection.

Copper or brass is cheaper...

Maybe they ought to install these:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CEXVT1.html

But you'd want them as bare metal, before the lacquer has been applied...
Then I expect people would complain about the patina that would develope,
or the shock risk (the fact that everywhere these days has CPC wouldn't
be relevant). But it is seemingly silly simple things like using brass
light switches that could reduce cross infection rates. If a bug lasts 6
hrs on a plastic switch and only 3 on a brass one...

Are you missing the point that silver is an antibiotic whose efficacy
was known in roman times, even if they didn't usually have light
switches

--
geoff

On 22/12/2012 23:56, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:28:04 -0800 (PST), harry wrote:

"In the United States, the FDA prohibits the sale of over-the-counter
silver-containing drugs because they have not been shown to be safe
and effective."

Context? Colloidal silver certainly hasn't been proven to have any real
medical benefits but other silver compounds have and are used.

A few years back there was some talk of using silver in the NHS. for
various things. One of the ideas was silver plated light switches to
kill bugs & so reduce cross infection.

Copper or brass is cheaper...

Maybe they ought to install these:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CEXVT1.html

But you'd want them as bare metal, before the lacquer has been applied...
Then I expect people would complain about the patina that would develope,
or the shock risk (the fact that everywhere these days has CPC wouldn't
be relevant). But it is seemingly silly simple things like using brass
light switches that could reduce cross infection rates. If a bug lasts 6
hrs on a plastic switch and only 3 on a brass one...

The context was the link to wiki on the post I responded to.

--
Rod

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:20:45 -0000, "ARW"
wrote:

WTF is the Silver Generator?

Something you can pay £163 for or make yourself with a 9V battery a
resistor, a LED and two scrap bits of silver (or SWMBO earrings when
she isn't watching as no noticeable amount is used up).

If you want a mains powered on just use any old wall wart between 6
and 24VDC


http://www.bigclive.com/silver.htm

"ARW" wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


My wife's aunt used to get all sorts of quack stuff from "Healthspan" and
was a great believer in magnetic bracelets. She celebrated her 100th
birthday last week, so maybe not so "quack" after all. ;-)

Tim

Tim+ wrote:
"ARW" wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


My wife's aunt used to get all sorts of quack stuff from "Healthspan"
and was a great believer in magnetic bracelets. She celebrated her
100th birthday last week, so maybe not so "quack" after all. ;-)

Tim

Yes, but maybe if she hadn't used magnetic bracelets and got stuff from
"Healthspan", she'd have competed in the Olympics and lived 'til she was
147?

On 22/12/2012 20:59, Phil L wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
"ARW" wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


My wife's aunt used to get all sorts of quack stuff from "Healthspan"
and was a great believer in magnetic bracelets. She celebrated her
100th birthday last week, so maybe not so "quack" after all. ;-)

Tim

Yes, but maybe if she hadn't used magnetic bracelets and got stuff from
"Healthspan", she'd have competed in the Olympics and lived 'til she was
147?


The other day I read a site saying words to the effect "humans are
designed to live to 120". Who the hell is the designer? They get an
awful, awful lot of failures. Does his name begin with "G"? :-)

--
Rod

polygonum wrote:
On 22/12/2012 20:59, Phil L wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
"ARW" wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


My wife's aunt used to get all sorts of quack stuff from
"Healthspan" and was a great believer in magnetic bracelets. She
celebrated her 100th birthday last week, so maybe not so "quack"
after all. ;-) Tim

Yes, but maybe if she hadn't used magnetic bracelets and got stuff
from "Healthspan", she'd have competed in the Olympics and lived
'til she was 147?


The other day I read a site saying words to the effect "humans are
designed to live to 120". Who the hell is the designer? They get an
awful, awful lot of failures. Does his name begin with "G"? :-)

I heard on a TV prog a few months ago, QI I think, that some French
philosopher was on the verge of finding a way for everyone to live 600 years
just before his death aged 54

On 22/12/2012 21:16, Phil L wrote:
polygonum wrote:
On 22/12/2012 20:59, Phil L wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
"ARW" wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


My wife's aunt used to get all sorts of quack stuff from
"Healthspan" and was a great believer in magnetic bracelets. She
celebrated her 100th birthday last week, so maybe not so "quack"
after all. ;-) Tim

Yes, but maybe if she hadn't used magnetic bracelets and got stuff
from "Healthspan", she'd have competed in the Olympics and lived
'til she was 147?


The other day I read a site saying words to the effect "humans are
designed to live to 120". Who the hell is the designer? They get an
awful, awful lot of failures. Does his name begin with "G"? :-)

I heard on a TV prog a few months ago, QI I think, that some French
philosopher was on the verge of finding a way for everyone to live 600 years
just before his death aged 54


The DWP would freak out...

--
Rod

The question is of course, how long is forever?

Brian

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"ARW" wrote in message
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http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


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On Saturday, December 22, 2012 4:20:45 PM UTC, wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?

Produces colloidal silver antibiotic by electrolysis. Unlike most of the junk on that page, as an antibiotic it does actually work. It was one of the mainstream antibiotics before penicillin came along.


NT

Yes, well although silver is probably reasonably harmless, and may well have
some benefits, I'd not want to try this device out!
Electrolasis?
Tesla Pro Silver Generator (Mains Powered)

Price includes postage costs.
Make your own safe natural antibiotic at home.
Buy the Tesla Pro Silver Generator and make almost endless amounts of high
quality Silver antibiotic solutions
The device runs off the mains, has an auto shut off and produces the ideal
small particle the ideal particle size of 10nm at a concentration of 10ppm
(Parts Per Million) silver solution.
Unlike prescription antibiotics, infections never become resistant to silver
and it has been used for centuries to heal wounds and defeat infections

* Take control of your health and that of your family
* Make half a litre of High Quality Silver in just one hour
* Mains Powered (Battery run version also available on request)
* Easy to use just switch on and leave it to run
* Auto Shut-Off
* Long Life Pure 999.8 (99.98% Pure) Silver Rod's
* Plug adaptors for use if travelling abroad
* Supply friends and relatives with infection busting silver solutions

The silver mines of ancient Greece propelled a small nation into a global
empire. The ancient Greeks found that by placing a small amount of silver in
their water containers purified this essential supply and allowed their
military to be fit and strong in environments where the opposition
floundered.

Even today amphora are discovered on the ocean floor and where a piece of
silver was placed the wine still tastes sweet.

In battle a fine silver gauze was applied to the wound allowing a once fatal
injury to heel rapidly.

Ancient Purity's precious metal ionic silver brings this ancient wisdom to
the modern world.

Colloidal silver could effectively help those with MRSA. Ongoing research
may eventually restore Colloidal Silver to its once accepted status as
probably the most versatile and effective natural agent against bacteria. It
has a hugely important bonus in that bacteria find it almost impossible to
develop resistance to it.

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"ARW" wrote in message
...
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


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In message , ARW
writes
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?

Looks like Russ Andrews has a new sideline


--
geoff

On 22/12/2012 16:20, ARW wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


I noticed the middle on on the top row. Apricot kernels. Don't they
contain Cyanide?, I thought to myself, and googled for vitamin B17.

"Since the early 1950s, a modified form of amygdalin has been promoted
under the names laetrile and "Vitamin B17" as a cancer cure. In reality,
neither amygdalin nor any derivative such as laetrile is in any sense a
vitamin. Studies have found such compounds to be dangerously toxic as
well as being clinically ineffective in the treatment of cancer. Taken
by mouth they are potentially lethal because certain enzymes (in
particular, glucosidases that occur in the gut and in various kinds of
seeds, edible or inedible) act on them to produce cyanide. The promotion
of laetrile to treat cancer has been described in the medical literature
as a canonical example of quackery, and as "the slickest, most
sophisticated, and certainly the most remunerative cancer quack
promotion in medical history."

Andy

On 22/12/2012 21:42, Andy Champ wrote:
On 22/12/2012 16:20, ARW wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


I noticed the middle on on the top row. Apricot kernels. Don't they
contain Cyanide?, I thought to myself, and googled for vitamin B17.

"Since the early 1950s, a modified form of amygdalin has been promoted
under the names laetrile and "Vitamin B17" as a cancer cure. In reality,
neither amygdalin nor any derivative such as laetrile is in any sense a
vitamin. Studies have found such compounds to be dangerously toxic as
well as being clinically ineffective in the treatment of cancer. Taken
by mouth they are potentially lethal because certain enzymes (in
particular, glucosidases that occur in the gut and in various kinds of
seeds, edible or inedible) act on them to produce cyanide. The promotion
of laetrile to treat cancer has been described in the medical literature
as a canonical example of quackery, and as "the slickest, most
sophisticated, and certainly the most remunerative cancer quack
promotion in medical history."

Andy

Lugol's solution - which has been used to *** suppress *** thyroid
activity in people with Graves (hyperthyroidism). And iodine is often
regarded as a positively bad thing to take in most cases of
hypothyroidism (except where actually caused by low iodine).

Magnesium oil which is not oil. Merely because magnesium chloride has a
somewhat oily feel.

Noni juice which seems a very expensive way of buying sugar (albeit
fructose).

Lots of very questionable products.

--
Rod

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:42:08 +0000, Andy Champ
wrote:

On 22/12/2012 16:20, ARW wrote:
http://www.ancientpurity.com/

WTF is the Silver Generator?


I noticed the middle on on the top row. Apricot kernels. Don't they
contain Cyanide?

As good a reason as any to eschew apricots - awful things.

Pineapples too, and gropefruit, which I'm fortunately supposed to
avoid :-)

--
Frank Erskine

On Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:56:22 PM UTC, Frank Erskine wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:42:08 +0000, Andy Champ
wrote:

I noticed the middle on on the top row. Apricot kernels. Don't they
contain Cyanide?

As good a reason as any to eschew apricots - awful things.
Pineapples too, and gropefruit, which I'm fortunately supposed to
avoid :-)

There's really nothing wrong with eating fruits that release cyanide, as long as the amount eaten is within safe limits. Apricots, almonds etc are quite safe to eat. All ingestible substances are toxic in sufficient excess, even water.


NT

On 23/12/2012 11:30, wrote:
On Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:56:22 PM UTC, Frank Erskine wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:42:08 +0000, Andy Champ
wrote:

I noticed the middle on on the top row. Apricot kernels. Don't
they contain Cyanide?

As good a reason as any to eschew apricots - awful things.
Pineapples too, and gropefruit, which I'm fortunately supposed to
avoid :-)

There's really nothing wrong with eating fruits that release cyanide,
as long as the amount eaten is within safe limits. Apricots, almonds
etc are quite safe to eat. All ingestible substances are toxic in
sufficient excess, even water.


NT


Cyanide can be mopped up by sufficient vitamin B12 if supplied as
hyrdroxocobalamin or, I think, methlycobalamin.

But which water? "Natural" water? Reverse-osmosified water? Rain water?
Hard water? Soft water? Fluoridated water/non-fluoridated? Chlorine-free?

Be careful out there - you could drown in all the waters.

--
Rod

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:39:03 +0000, polygonum wrote:

But which water? "Natural" water? Reverse-osmosified water? Rain water?
Hard water? Soft water? Fluoridated water/non-fluoridated?
Chlorine-free?

Any of them, too much fluid intake is as bad as too little.

--
Cheers
Dave.