http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939

One of my childhood heros.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939

One of my childhood heros.

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+1

On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 18:00:49 -0000, ARW wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939

One of my childhood heros.

And the rest. On the basis that my "childhood" ended a few years before
he was half way through is broadcasting career...

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On 09/12/12 18:09, Mr Pounder wrote:
"ARW" wrote in message
...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939

One of my childhood heros.

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+1




+2

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ARW wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939

One of my childhood heros.

One of the small group of people who made me want to be a scientist.

Add me to the list ,He will be sadly missed.
RIP.

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ARW wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939

One of my childhood heros.

One of the small group of people who made me want to be a scientist.

My father played chess with him. But that must be more than 50 years ago
now.

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On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:00:49 +0000, ARW wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939

I was saddened to learn he was also a homophobic, misogynist UKIP type
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick...itical_beliefs
(which, like Christopher Hitchens' misogyny, doesn't mean he wasn't a
great guy in other ways - people aren't perfect).


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On 10 Dec 2012 00:22:33 GMT, John Stumbles
wrote:

On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:00:49 +0000, ARW wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939

I was saddened to learn he was also a homophobic, misogynist UKIP type
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick...itical_beliefs
(which, like Christopher Hitchens' misogyny, doesn't mean he wasn't a
great guy in other ways - people aren't perfect).


--
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I don't want to be part of a club that would have someone like me as a
member.

He famously encouraged the young Heather Couper to become an
astronomer, and it looked for a while that she might steal his mantle.

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On 10/12/12 00:22, John Stumbles wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:00:49 +0000, ARW wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939

I was saddened to learn he was also a homophobic, misogynist UKIP type
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick...itical_beliefs
(which, like Christopher Hitchens' misogyny, doesn't mean he wasn't a
great guy in other ways - people aren't perfect).


I'd have been more worried if he wasn't a UKIP type frankly.

Whatever that is...
It seems to be the only intelligent sane thing to be these days.


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On Dec 9, 6:00*pm, "ARW" wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939

One of my childhood heros.

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Yes. I had a couple of his books.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:08 +0000, Graham. wrote:

He famously encouraged the young Heather Couper to become an
astronomer, and it looked for a while that she might steal his mantle.

I wonder who will take over on The Sky at Night? Though I guess as The
Sky at Night is an interesting science based programme that requires more
than half a brain cell to understand will it be quietly dropped. I hope
not but none of the current regular co-presenters inspire me.

Helen Czerski who co-presented Orbit a while back had a good ethustiastic
style and has a scientific background, though into bubbles rather than
astronomy.

--
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On Dec 10, 12:43*pm, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:08 +0000, Graham. wrote:
He famously encouraged the young Heather Couper to become an
astronomer, and it looked for a while that she might steal his mantle.

I wonder who will take over on The Sky at Night? Though I guess as The
Sky at Night is an interesting science based programme that requires more
than half a brain cell to understand will it be quietly dropped. I hope
not but none of the current regular co-presenters inspire me.

Helen Czerski who co-presented Orbit a while back had a good ethustiastic
style and has a scientific background, though into bubbles rather than
astronomy.

--
Cheers
Dave.

They will get a bimbo in.
Same as weather forecasting is now.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 05:43:07 -0800 (PST), harry wrote:

Helen Czerski who co-presented Orbit a while back had a good
ethustiastic style and has a scientific background, though into
bubbles rather than astronomy.

They will get a bimbo in.

Rules out Helen Czerski, so it'll Kate bumble then

Same as weather forecasting is now.

That's just been dumbed down and down , the fact they spenta small
fortune of the new graphivs which were and still are dire says that.
About the same time the atlantic charts disappeared as well. Though they
occasionally are shown now but not explained properly using the correct
terminology.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 10/12/12 13:43, harry wrote:
On Dec 10, 12:43 pm, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:08 +0000, Graham. wrote:
He famously encouraged the young Heather Couper to become an
astronomer, and it looked for a while that she might steal his mantle.

I wonder who will take over on The Sky at Night? Though I guess as The
Sky at Night is an interesting science based programme that requires more
than half a brain cell to understand will it be quietly dropped. I hope
not but none of the current regular co-presenters inspire me.

Helen Czerski who co-presented Orbit a while back had a good ethustiastic
style and has a scientific background, though into bubbles rather than
astronomy.

--
Cheers
Dave.

They will get a bimbo in.
Same as weather forecasting is now.

You should look at the qualifications of some of those bimbos.

Not one without a degree and all met office trained.


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diminishing number of producers.

On Monday, December 10, 2012 7:44:03 AM UTC, harry wrote:
On Dec 9, 6:00*pm, "ARW" wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939



One of my childhood heros.



--

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Yes. I had a couple of his books.

Me too, the first books I borrowed from the library then went out and brought.

I don;t think he was a homophobic or misogynist he had stong points of view about thing but that wss it, he said he was also in love with a girl once biut she didn;t and there wasn;t anyone to replace her hardly a misogynist view is it ?

In article ,
whisky-dave scribeth thus
On Monday, December 10, 2012 7:44:03 AM UTC, harry wrote:
On Dec 9, 6:00*pm, "ARW" wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939



One of my childhood heros.


+1...



--

Adam



Yes. I had a couple of his books.

Me too, the first books I borrowed from the library then went out and brought.

I don;t think he was a homophobic or misogynist he had stong points of view
about thing but that wss it, he said he was also in love with a girl once biut
she didn;t and there wasn;t anyone to replace her hardly a misogynist view is it
?


As I read it she was killed in the war whilst he was a serving bomber
command navigator who lied about his age to join the RAF..

So not a bad bloke really..



Delightful comment on the BBC website..


RIP Sir Patrick..

"Second star on the left, and straight on till morning...






--
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writes
In article ,
whisky-dave scribeth thus
On Monday, December 10, 2012 7:44:03 AM UTC, harry wrote:
On Dec 9, 6:00*pm, "ARW" wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939



One of my childhood heros.


+1...



--

Adam



Yes. I had a couple of his books.

Me too, the first books I borrowed from the library then went out and brought.

I don;t think he was a homophobic or misogynist he had stong points of view
about thing but that wss it, he said he was also in love with a girl
once biut
she didn;t and there wasn;t anyone to replace her hardly a misogynist
view is it
?


As I read it she was killed in the war whilst he was a serving bomber
command navigator who lied about his age to join the RAF..
According to the Grauniad obit the ambulance she was driving was hit by
a bomb. I didn't know that he got someone else to attend his RAF
entrance medical so that they didn't find out about his heart condition.

So not a bad bloke really..
+1



Delightful comment on the BBC website..


RIP Sir Patrick..

"Second star on the left, and straight on till morning...







--
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 05:43:07 -0800 (PST), harry wrote:

Helen Czerski who co-presented Orbit a while back had a good
ethustiastic style and has a scientific background, though into
bubbles rather than astronomy.

They will get a bimbo in.

Rules out Helen Czerski, so it'll Kate bumble then

Same as weather forecasting is now.

That's just been dumbed down and down , the fact they spenta small
fortune of the new graphivs which were and still are dire says that.
About the same time the atlantic charts disappeared as well. Though they
occasionally are shown now but not explained properly using the correct
terminology.

Grrr - don't remind me how much I hate the fact that we now have some bimbo
bat squeaking at us while a 3d animation swoops and soars conveying
absolutely no information of any use whatsoever. The old charts packed a
lot of information into a view. Useful information for anyone farming or
sailing a boat.

--
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_/ _/

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:20:36 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 10/12/12 13:43, harry wrote:
On Dec 10, 12:43 pm, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:08 +0000, Graham. wrote:
He famously encouraged the young Heather Couper to become an
astronomer, and it looked for a while that she might steal his mantle.

I wonder who will take over on The Sky at Night? Though I guess as The
Sky at Night is an interesting science based programme that requires more
than half a brain cell to understand will it be quietly dropped. I hope
not but none of the current regular co-presenters inspire me.

Helen Czerski who co-presented Orbit a while back had a good ethustiastic
style and has a scientific background, though into bubbles rather than
astronomy.

--
Cheers
Dave.

They will get a bimbo in.
Same as weather forecasting is now.

You should look at the qualifications of some of those bimbos.

Not one without a degree and all met office trained.

Yes they are all met office trained, but the degrees are not always in
atmospheric science/physics/maths (or similar). There are at least a couple
that have degrees in non science subjects.


--

On 10/12/2012 19:19, ARW wrote:
But if this is true then that is quite an acheivement
"In its obituary, the Daily Telegraph reported that Moore believed he was
the only person to have met the first man to fly, Orville Wright, as well as
the first man in space, Russian Yuri Gagarin, and the first man on the moon,
the late Neil Armstrong."

Just for once Einstein doesn't rate a mention.

Incidentally I imagine Chris Lintott will drop the "co" and become just
"presenter".

Andy

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:24:53 +0000, The Other Mike
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:20:36 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:



They will get a bimbo in.
Same as weather forecasting is now.

You should look at the qualifications of some of those bimbos.

Not one without a degree and all met office trained.

Yes they are all met office trained, but the degrees are not always in
atmospheric science/physics/maths (or similar). There are at least a couple
that have degrees in non science subjects.

Haven't a load on the BBC regionals been laid off or are about to be
as part of the DQV cuts? Some seem to popping up on ordinary
presentation assignments recently, whether that is to keep them
occupied while contracts finish or they have managed to wangle a way
of staying on in new positions I don't know. The one who did manage to
retain her position at BBC South has thanked them by buggering of to
Pakistan. Probably hear about her getting stoned sometime.
At least with the cutbacks we may be spared the pointless presentation
of a weather forecast by one of them getting wet at location somewhere
in the region just to prove it actually is raining. I wonder how much
those exercises cost licence payers in travel and subsistence
allowances because they fancied an evening with the yachties at Cowes
week or a day out at Goodwood.

G.Harman

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:08 +0000, Graham. wrote:

He famously encouraged the young Heather Couper to become an
astronomer, and it looked for a while that she might steal his mantle.

I wonder who will take over on The Sky at Night? Though I guess as The
Sky at Night is an interesting science based programme that requires more
than half a brain cell to understand will it be quietly dropped. I hope
not but none of the current regular co-presenters inspire me.

How about Brian May ? Isn't he supposed to be quite an accomplished
astronomer, as well as having been a a close pal of Patrick Moore for many
years ? Or Brian Cox. He has a very engaging presentation style, and is
scientifically very clever. Although not primarily an astronomer, he seems
to have a good knowledge of the subject. His explanation of retrograde
planetary motion was the first one I had ever understood ...

Arfa



Helen Czerski who co-presented Orbit a while back had a good ethustiastic
style and has a scientific background, though into bubbles rather than
astronomy.

--
Cheers
Dave.

The Other Mike wrote:

Yes they are all met office trained, but the degrees are not always in
atmospheric science/physics/maths (or similar). There are at least a couple
that have degrees in non science subjects.

Having a degree proves only one thing: that mummy and daddy can support
you though uni. Degrees these days are ten a penny; every bugger's got
one. Less value than a 1960s Domestic Science O Level.

Bill

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:54:31 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

The Other Mike wrote:

Yes they are all met office trained, but the degrees are not always in
atmospheric science/physics/maths (or similar). There are at least a
couple that have degrees in non science subjects.

Having a degree proves only one thing: that mummy and daddy can support
you though uni. Degrees these days are ten a penny; every bugger's got
one. Less value than a 1960s Domestic Science O Level.

That depends very much on the university. And the subject.


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On 11/12/2012 01:54, Bill Wright wrote:
The Other Mike wrote:

Yes they are all met office trained, but the degrees are not always in
atmospheric science/physics/maths (or similar). There are at least a
couple
that have degrees in non science subjects.

Having a degree proves only one thing: that mummy and daddy can support
you though uni. Degrees these days are ten a penny; every bugger's got
one. Less value than a 1960s Domestic Science O Level.

Bill

You will find that real science subjects are still quite hard at red
brick unis.
There are plenty of soft subjects available for the people that can't
manage engineering or science.

Bill Wright wrote:

The Other Mike wrote:

Yes they are all met office trained, but the degrees are not always in
atmospheric science/physics/maths (or similar). There are at least a
couple that have degrees in non science subjects.

Having a degree proves only one thing: that mummy and daddy can support
you though uni. Degrees these days are ten a penny; every bugger's got
one. Less value than a 1960s Domestic Science O Level.

Bill

Depends where it comes from. If it's from Imperial, it *will* be worth
pretty much as much as any degree could be, because they are so over
subscribed, they still have the luxury of being fussy and they have the
active research happening to back up their reputation.

That's not to say that there are not lots of other establishments that can
say the same - of course there are, but this one I have seen first hand.

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On 11/12/2012 01:54, Bill Wright wrote:
The Other Mike wrote:

Yes they are all met office trained, but the degrees are not always in
atmospheric science/physics/maths (or similar). There are at least a
couple
that have degrees in non science subjects.

Having a degree proves only one thing: that mummy and daddy can support
you though uni. Degrees these days are ten a penny; every bugger's got
one. Less value than a 1960s Domestic Science O Level.

Bill

Sorry - does not. A close relative is a Met Office person - brought up
by abandoned mother with no spare cash, worked very hard supporting
herself to get her science degree, worked very hard in Met Office so
far. Offered broadcast role but, so far, has declined and stayed backroom.

--
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In article ,
polygonum wrote:
Having a degree proves only one thing: that mummy and daddy can support
you though uni. Degrees these days are ten a penny; every bugger's got
one. Less value than a 1960s Domestic Science O Level.

Bill

Sorry - does not. A close relative is a Met Office person - brought up
by abandoned mother with no spare cash, worked very hard supporting
herself to get her science degree, worked very hard in Met Office so
far. Offered broadcast role but, so far, has declined and stayed
backroom.

Plenty went through uni with no financial support from parents by working
evenings. weekends and holidays. These days you can get a student loan.

Bill is just quoting from the Mail - again.

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On 11/12/2012 10:15, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
polygonum wrote:
Having a degree proves only one thing: that mummy and daddy can support
you though uni. Degrees these days are ten a penny; every bugger's got
one. Less value than a 1960s Domestic Science O Level.

Bill

Sorry - does not. A close relative is a Met Office person - brought up
by abandoned mother with no spare cash, worked very hard supporting
herself to get her science degree, worked very hard in Met Office so
far. Offered broadcast role but, so far, has declined and stayed
backroom.

Plenty went through uni with no financial support from parents by working
evenings. weekends and holidays. These days you can get a student loan.

Bill is just quoting from the Mail - again.

Absolutely - and many with far more difficulty than my relative. I did
not wish Bill's statement/quote to lie entirely unchallenged.

--
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:15:26 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
polygonum wrote:
Having a degree proves only one thing: that mummy and daddy can
support you though uni. Degrees these days are ten a penny; every
bugger's got one. Less value than a 1960s Domestic Science O Level.

Bill

Sorry - does not. A close relative is a Met Office person - brought up
by abandoned mother with no spare cash, worked very hard supporting
herself to get her science degree, worked very hard in Met Office so
far. Offered broadcast role but, so far, has declined and stayed
backroom.

Plenty went through uni with no financial support from parents by
working evenings. weekends and holidays. These days you can get a
student loan.

Which is insufficient to cover even rent, quite often.



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evenings. weekends and holidays. These days you can get a student loan.



Most got grants. My kids' uni education didn't cost me anything

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:03:57 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
wrote:

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ill.co.uk...
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:08 +0000, Graham. wrote:

He famously encouraged the young Heather Couper to become an
astronomer, and it looked for a while that she might steal his mantle.

I wonder who will take over on The Sky at Night? Though I guess as The
Sky at Night is an interesting science based programme that requires more
than half a brain cell to understand will it be quietly dropped. I hope
not but none of the current regular co-presenters inspire me.

How about Brian May ?

Please no. Get the scruffy ******* to cut his hair and shoot a few badgers
first.

Or Brian Cox.

Nor him either.

However both might make good guests

My guess is the beeb will let it run for another few months and then pull the
plug.


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In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes
On 09/12/12 18:09, Mr Pounder wrote:
"ARW" wrote in message
...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939

One of my childhood heros.

--
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+1




+2

Until he sold out on the Millennium and accepted it would be 31/12/1999
instead of 31/12/2000
--
bert

In message , stuart noble
writes

Plenty went through uni with no financial support from parents by working
evenings. weekends and holidays. These days you can get a student loan.



Most got grants. My kids' uni education didn't cost me anything

Means tested grants so few got the full amount.
And at the time I got my "free" university education basic rate income
tax was about 30% so on starting a job my marginal rate was higher than
my sons who had a student loan.
--
bert

In message , Bill Wright
writes
The Other Mike wrote:

Yes they are all met office trained, but the degrees are not always in
atmospheric science/physics/maths (or similar). There are at least a couple
that have degrees in non science subjects.

Having a degree proves only one thing: that mummy and daddy can support
you though uni. Degrees these days are ten a penny; every bugger's got
one. Less value than a 1960s Domestic Science O Level.

Drivel's got one of those, so I heard


--
geoff

On 09/12/12 18:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/12/12 18:09, Mr Pounder wrote:
"ARW" wrote in message
...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939

One of my childhood heros.

--
Adam

+1




+2



One of mine, too. Sadly missed.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:49:47 +0000, The Other Mike wrote:

I wonder who will take over on The Sky at Night? Though I guess as
The Sky at Night is an interesting science based programme that
requires more than half a brain cell to understand will it be quietly
dropped. I hope not but none of the current regular co-presenters
inspire me.

How about Brian May ?

Please no. Get the scruffy ******* to cut his hair and shoot a few
badgers first.

B-) He has an astrophysics degree of some sort but how long ago? More
than 10 years ago it'll be way out of date.

Or Brian Cox.

Nor him either.

Agreed don't like his style either, I find it just a very little
patronising and there isn't the flow of enthusiasium. He knows his stuff
but the presentation is flat.

My guess is the beeb will let it run for another few months and then
pull the plug.

Not sure how they are going to do that without Sir Patrick Moore. Fairly
sure they don't have stock of shows already in the can. There will be a
obit type one of course.

--
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Dave.

In article o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes

B-) He has an astrophysics degree of some sort but how long ago? More
than 10 years ago it'll be way out of date.

He only recently completed it. Started the course but took time out to
do rock'n'roll. Once he'd 'retired' he completed the course and got his
degree in 2007.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_May#Astrophysics

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On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:49:47 PM UTC, The Other Mike wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:03:57 -0000, "Arfa Daily"

wrote:



"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message

ill.co.uk...

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:08 +0000, Graham. wrote:



He famously encouraged the young Heather Couper to become an

astronomer, and it looked for a while that she might steal his mantle.



I wonder who will take over on The Sky at Night? Though I guess as The

Sky at Night is an interesting science based programme that requires more

than half a brain cell to understand will it be quietly dropped. I hope

not but none of the current regular co-presenters inspire me.



How about Brian May ?



Please no. Get the scruffy ******* to cut his hair and shoot a few badgers

first.

Yeah and practice playing guitar more ;-)


Or Brian Cox.



Nor him either.

I agree he's a little whimsical for the Sky at night I want somen0ne to say we dont; know when we don;t know something rather than someone show artists impression of what it could be or might be like......




However both might make good guests

Yep,

I think Patricks side kick chris IIRC seems OK has the right sore of vioce and enthusims which is what I got from patrick moore.
I quite like Dr J lister that does the ESOcast podcast .




My guess is the beeb will let it run for another few months and then pull the

plug.

I doubt that, I'd be surpsired if tehy didn;t run it more often or for longer.






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In message , geoff
writes
In message , Bill Wright
writes
The Other Mike wrote:

Yes they are all met office trained, but the degrees are not always in
atmospheric science/physics/maths (or similar). There are at least a couple
that have degrees in non science subjects.

Having a degree proves only one thing: that mummy and daddy can
support you though uni. Degrees these days are ten a penny; every
bugger's got one. Less value than a 1960s Domestic Science O Level.

Drivel's got one of those, so I heard


Exaggerating again is he?
--
bert