I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

I'm thinking anglegrinder with what kind of disks?

[george]

"george - dicegeorge" wrote in message ...

I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

I'm thinking anglegrinder with what kind of disks?

Jigsaw and imagination.
Randomly carve the edges off at irregular intervals and depths to give a
rustic look.
Paint matt black

Drill a hole here and there too and square it out with a chisel to look like
an old hinge mount.

On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

I'm thinking anglegrinder with what kind of disks?

[george]

An adze.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adze

--
Rod

On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

Quite badly IMO. It is usually not difficult to tell the difference
between genuine old timber and distressed modern timber.

However, if you really want to do it, one way is to get a hand plane,
shape the blade so that it is convex, set it quite proud of the face and
take random cuts at the surface, to try to replicate adze marks. Light
sand blasting will also raise the grain, which will help the effect. If
you want to replicate worm holes use a combination of small drills and a
lino cutting gouge, which can be used to make it look like the worm ate
its way out at an angle. Don't forget a few mortice holes in totally
useless places, if you want to make it look like reclaimed timber. End
up with a good beating with a metal chain (the wood not you) to add
random nicks and gouges. Then all you need to do is find a good
combination of stains and varnishes, which are best tested on scrap
first, to see what effect they will give. Multiple light coats will give
a better aged effect than one thick coat.

Colin Bignell

On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:43:09 +0000, george - dicegeorge wrote:

how do pubs make their new beams look old?

They buy them preformed made out of foam plastic...

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 25/11/2012 16:59, Nightjar wrote:
On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

Quite badly IMO. It is usually not difficult to tell the difference
between genuine old timber and distressed modern timber.

However, if you really want to do it, one way is to get a hand plane,
shape the blade so that it is convex, set it quite proud of the face and
take random cuts at the surface, to try to replicate adze marks. Light
sand blasting will also raise the grain, which will help the effect. If
you want to replicate worm holes use a combination of small drills and a
lino cutting gouge, which can be used to make it look like the worm ate
its way out at an angle. Don't forget a few mortice holes in totally
useless places, if you want to make it look like reclaimed timber. End
up with a good beating with a metal chain (the wood not you) to add
random nicks and gouges. Then all you need to do is find a good
combination of stains and varnishes, which are best tested on scrap
first, to see what effect they will give. Multiple light coats will give
a better aged effect than one thick coat.

Colin Bignell

Ancient TV sketch. Men doing as you describe to make a piece of
furniture look like an antique. Interviewer: And how long have you been
doing that? Workman: A hundred years.

--
Rod

In article ,
polygonum wrote:
On 25/11/2012 16:59, Nightjar wrote:
On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

Quite badly IMO. It is usually not difficult to tell the difference
between genuine old timber and distressed modern timber.

However, if you really want to do it, one way is to get a hand plane,
shape the blade so that it is convex, set it quite proud of the face and
take random cuts at the surface, to try to replicate adze marks. Light
sand blasting will also raise the grain, which will help the effect. If
you want to replicate worm holes use a combination of small drills and a
lino cutting gouge, which can be used to make it look like the worm ate
its way out at an angle. Don't forget a few mortice holes in totally
useless places, if you want to make it look like reclaimed timber. End
up with a good beating with a metal chain (the wood not you) to add
random nicks and gouges. Then all you need to do is find a good
combination of stains and varnishes, which are best tested on scrap
first, to see what effect they will give. Multiple light coats will give
a better aged effect than one thick coat.

Colin Bignell

Ancient TV sketch. Men doing as you describe to make a piece of
furniture look like an antique. Interviewer: And how long have you been
doing that? Workman: A hundred years.

ancient Punch cartoon. Antique shop proprietor sticking his head into the
workshop "Mr Smithers, I'm having a twinge of conscience; would you mind
changing your name to Chippendale?"

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

polygonum wrote:
[snip]

Ancient TV sketch. Men doing as you describe to make a piece of furniture
look like an antique. Interviewer: And how long have you been doing that?
Workman: A hundred years.

There's an old film with Brian Rix as an antique dealer. A customer removes
a drawer from a sideboard that Rix assures him is genuinely old to reveal a
stamp on the wood that reads "Tate & Lyle". Rix tries to convince him that
this is the mark of the carpenter Tatie of Lille.

--
€¢DarWin|
_/ _/

Nthkentman wrote:



"george - dicegeorge" wrote in message
...

I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

I'm thinking anglegrinder with what kind of disks?

Jigsaw and imagination.
Randomly carve the edges off at irregular intervals and depths to give a
rustic look.
Paint matt black

Drill a hole here and there too and square it out with a chisel to look
like an old hinge mount.

Not that I am advocating this exact method - but a mate of mine also made
some "aged" beams from heavy pallets.

He smoothed them, beat them up (hammer, bits of iron etc), made some fake
woodworm holes with a hammer and panel pin.

The final effect was diluting some black gloss with petrol (you could use
white spirit or water as suits the paint) then ragging it on roughly. The
effect was more or a stained timber with much uneveness and it looked like
it had been there forever.

--
Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://www.dionic.net/tim/

"She got her looks from her father. He's a plastic surgeon."

Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:43:09 +0000, george - dicegeorge wrote:

how do pubs make their new beams look old?

They buy them preformed made out of foam plastic...


Yes - hugely sad. Tap some next time you are in an "antique" pub.


--
Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://www.dionic.net/tim/

"She got her looks from her father. He's a plastic surgeon."

Nightjar wrote:

On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

Quite badly IMO. It is usually not difficult to tell the difference
between genuine old timber and distressed modern timber.

However, if you really want to do it, one way is to get a hand plane,
shape the blade so that it is convex, set it quite proud of the face and
take random cuts at the surface, to try to replicate adze marks. Light
sand blasting will also raise the grain, which will help the effect. If
you want to replicate worm holes use a combination of small drills and a
lino cutting gouge, which can be used to make it look like the worm ate
its way out at an angle. Don't forget a few mortice holes in totally
useless places, if you want to make it look like reclaimed timber. End
up with a good beating with a metal chain (the wood not you) to add
random nicks and gouges. Then all you need to do is find a good
combination of stains and varnishes, which are best tested on scrap
first, to see what effect they will give. Multiple light coats will give
a better aged effect than one thick coat.

Colin Bignell

Could you just have a bit of hack with a real adze? And a shave hook (or
spoke hook) to knock the corners off.

--
Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://www.dionic.net/tim/

"It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent
moral busybodies."

In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:43:09 +0000, george - dicegeorge wrote:

how do pubs make their new beams look old?

They buy them preformed made out of foam plastic...


Yes - hugely sad. Tap some next time you are in an "antique" pub.

our local was 'antiqued' by the then landlord just after the "great storm"
using timber that had suddenly become available. Trouble was it wasn't
seasosned, so great airgaps appeared above tehbem He used aerosol foam to
fill these gaps.

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

On 25/11/2012 16:59, Nightjar wrote:
Quite badly IMO. It is usually not difficult to tell the difference
between genuine old timber and distressed modern timber.

+1

One of the many giveaways is the "six inch square beam" formed of three
planks. Or bits of palette...

Andy

On 25/11/2012 18:04, Tim Watts wrote:
Nightjar wrote:

On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

Quite badly IMO. It is usually not difficult to tell the difference
between genuine old timber and distressed modern timber.

However, if you really want to do it, one way is to get a hand plane,
shape the blade so that it is convex, set it quite proud of the face and
take random cuts at the surface, to try to replicate adze marks. Light
sand blasting will also raise the grain, which will help the effect. If
you want to replicate worm holes use a combination of small drills and a
lino cutting gouge, which can be used to make it look like the worm ate
its way out at an angle. Don't forget a few mortice holes in totally
useless places, if you want to make it look like reclaimed timber. End
up with a good beating with a metal chain (the wood not you) to add
random nicks and gouges. Then all you need to do is find a good
combination of stains and varnishes, which are best tested on scrap
first, to see what effect they will give. Multiple light coats will give
a better aged effect than one thick coat.

Colin Bignell

Could you just have a bit of hack with a real adze? And a shave hook (or
spoke hook) to knock the corners off.


I could, but not everybody can use an adze without endangering a limb or
two.

Colin Bignell

On 25/11/2012 22:41, Nightjar wrote:
On 25/11/2012 18:04, Tim Watts wrote:
Nightjar wrote:

On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

Quite badly IMO. It is usually not difficult to tell the difference
between genuine old timber and distressed modern timber.

However, if you really want to do it, one way is to get a hand plane,
shape the blade so that it is convex, set it quite proud of the face and
take random cuts at the surface, to try to replicate adze marks. Light
sand blasting will also raise the grain, which will help the effect. If
you want to replicate worm holes use a combination of small drills and a
lino cutting gouge, which can be used to make it look like the worm ate
its way out at an angle. Don't forget a few mortice holes in totally
useless places, if you want to make it look like reclaimed timber. End
up with a good beating with a metal chain (the wood not you) to add
random nicks and gouges. Then all you need to do is find a good
combination of stains and varnishes, which are best tested on scrap
first, to see what effect they will give. Multiple light coats will give
a better aged effect than one thick coat.

Colin Bignell

Could you just have a bit of hack with a real adze? And a shave hook (or
spoke hook) to knock the corners off.


I could, but not everybody can use an adze without endangering a limb or
two.

Colin Bignell

Blood will darken it nicely.

--
Rod

george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

I'm thinking anglegrinder with what kind of disks?

[george]


Angle grinder with wire brush on it helps.

On Nov 25, 3:44*pm, george - dicegeorge
wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of *3x3s
* of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

I'm thinking anglegrinder with what kind of disks?

[george]

A judiciously used flapwheel can make fake "adze" marks.
The raise the grain you can use a power wire brush (flat is better
than cup type.)
You can buy a fitting for the angle grinder that has chain saw type
teeth on the periphery for wood carving.

A lot of fake pub "olde worlde" beams are fibre glass.

On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

I'm thinking anglegrinder with what kind of disks?

[george]
Blowlamp & wire brush.

On 26/11/2012 11:53, Phil wrote:
On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

I'm thinking anglegrinder with what kind of disks?

[george]
Blowlamp & wire brush.

Not sure what charring has to do with age

On 26/11/12 13:50, stuart noble wrote:
On 26/11/2012 11:53, Phil wrote:
On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

I'm thinking anglegrinder with what kind of disks?

[george]
Blowlamp & wire brush.

Not sure what charring has to do with age


accelerated darkening

But i prefer stain

--
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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On 26/11/2012 14:41, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/11/12 13:50, stuart noble wrote:
On 26/11/2012 11:53, Phil wrote:
On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

I'm thinking anglegrinder with what kind of disks?

[george]
Blowlamp & wire brush.

Not sure what charring has to do with age


accelerated darkening

But i prefer stain

Burn the surface, wire brush to remove charring. You are left with
raised grain emulating weathering/wear.
Useful for 'rounding' sharp edges as they burn off easier than the
surrounding timber too.

Phil.

In message , Tim Watts
writes
Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:43:09 +0000, george - dicegeorge wrote:

how do pubs make their new beams look old?

They buy them preformed made out of foam plastic...


Yes - hugely sad. Tap some next time you are in an "antique" pub.


I always wanted to go into the Three Horseshoes in Bushey with a bottle
of nail polish remover ...

--
geoff

On 25/11/2012 16:35, polygonum wrote:
On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

I'm thinking anglegrinder with what kind of disks?

[george]

An adze.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adze

I worked in club back in end of 70's they fitted new doors to their
'castle' look bar, and let rip with a shotgun ..to cause holes &
splinterring - worked for them

On 25/05/2013 18:57, Rick Hughes wrote:
On 25/11/2012 16:35, polygonum wrote:
On 25/11/2012 15:43, george - dicegeorge wrote:
I've screwed and glued pairs of 3x3s
of old pallet wood together for joists,

Rather than plane them and paint them
how do pubs make their new beams look old?

I'm thinking anglegrinder with what kind of disks?

[george]

An adze.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adze

I worked in club back in end of 70's they fitted new doors to their
'castle' look bar, and let rip with a shotgun ..to cause holes &
splinterring - worked for them

What news-client and server are you using?

This is a 6 month old thread. Can anyone else beat that?

On Saturday, May 25, 2013 10:05:17 PM UTC+1, Fredxx wrote:

What news-client and server are you using?
This is a 6 month old thread. Can anyone else beat that?

I think the recent spammer was replying to a 2004 thread, or something similar.

Maybe Rick's using a 486 and its finally stopped swapfiling


NT