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SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network.
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:14:33 -0800 (PST), fred wrote:
SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? Why not a battery powered radio that picks up 198kHz or 92 - 95 ish MHz? -- |
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fred :
SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. AAMOI what's wrong with a radio radio? -- Mike Barnes |
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On 15/11/2012 16:14, fred wrote:
SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? Most that are capable of that are also capable of DAB and FM. Digital radios eat batteries quickly so it is a bad idea! You will probably find the FM provides the most acceptable quality. I have a DAB radio (that would run on batteries) that is used on the internet because it is so lousy at receiving DAB. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:42:04 +0000, Mike Barnes wrote:
SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. AAMOI what's wrong with a radio radio? Remember we are talking about a SWMBO'd here, logic doesn't come into it.. And knowing SWMBO'ds Radio 4 may actually mean Radio 4 Extra, that is a digital only station. You are also making tha assumption that there is a useable R4 FM or LW signal available (depending on her ethusiaium or not for Cricket). As for an "internet radio" Squeeze Boxes are OK but not cheap, but then I don't think there are any cheap (£30) internet radios out there. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 15/11/2012 16:14, fred wrote:
SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? Almost any laptop PC or Mac, Android phone or other similar devices are possibilities. -- Rod |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:42:04 +0000, Mike Barnes wrote: SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. AAMOI what's wrong with a radio radio? Remember we are talking about a SWMBO'd here, logic doesn't come into it. And knowing SWMBO'ds Radio 4 may actually mean Radio 4 Extra, that is a digital only station. You are also making tha assumption that there is a useable R4 FM or LW signal available (depending on her ethusiaium or not for Cricket). As for an "internet radio" Squeeze Boxes are OK but not cheap, but then I don't think there are any cheap (£30) internet radios out there. -- Cheers Dave. Get a cheap smart phone from tescos for about 30 squid. Use it in wifi mode with an extension speaker. Works great and can surf the web as well. Andy |
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On 15/11/2012 16:14, fred wrote:
SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? Why eat into your bandwidth allowance when there's a perfectly good FM signal available? -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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"fred" wrote in message
... SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? -- My iPhone does it quite cheerfully using a free app. My wife uses hers quite a bit to listen to Classic FM when in her polytunnel & greenhouses. It cuts out briefly as she moves around the site and the phone changes from one wireless hub to another (in the vegetable garden she connects to the barn hub, and elsewhere to the farm office or house hubs but the iphone does that automatically) AWEM |
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Many seem to use their smartphones for this sort of stuff.
Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:42:04 +0000, Mike Barnes wrote: SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. AAMOI what's wrong with a radio radio? Remember we are talking about a SWMBO'd here, logic doesn't come into it. And knowing SWMBO'ds Radio 4 may actually mean Radio 4 Extra, that is a digital only station. You are also making tha assumption that there is a useable R4 FM or LW signal available (depending on her ethusiaium or not for Cricket). As for an "internet radio" Squeeze Boxes are OK but not cheap, but then I don't think there are any cheap (£30) internet radios out there. -- Cheers Dave. |
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fred wrote:
SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? An iPhone or Android device running TuneIn Pro works really well. Sound is a bit tinny, battery life terrible but the actual application is impressively good. It replaced my Worldspace radio that I used to get foreign language stations and it's much better. I wonder if they do a radio set... googles hmm they license to others, including Logitech for the squeezebox. -- €¢DarWin| _/ _/ |
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Roger Mills wrote:
On 15/11/2012 16:14, fred wrote: SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? Why eat into your bandwidth allowance when there's a perfectly good FM signal available? Bandwidth allowance? Are you using the poor people's Internet? -- €¢DarWin| _/ _/ |
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, Steve Firth wrote: An iPhone or Android device running TuneIn Pro works really well. Sound is a bit tinny, battery life terrible but the actual application is impressively good. It replaced my Worldspace radio that I used to get foreign language stations and it's much better. That's progress? My old Nokia phone has an excellent FM radio built in with decent sound quality and good battery life... -- *Sorry, I don't date outside my species. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 15/11/2012 19:24, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Steve Firth wrote: An iPhone or Android device running TuneIn Pro works really well. Sound is a bit tinny, battery life terrible but the actual application is impressively good. It replaced my Worldspace radio that I used to get foreign language stations and it's much better. That's progress? My old Nokia phone has an excellent FM radio built in with decent sound quality and good battery life... My Galaxy S2 has FM as well - but OP asked for internet radio... Honestly not sure of battery life with that running. -- Rod |
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On 15/11/2012 18:58, Steve Firth wrote:
Roger Mills wrote: On 15/11/2012 16:14, fred wrote: SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? Why eat into your bandwidth allowance when there's a perfectly good FM signal available? More to the point battery powered and DSP radio don't really work. Bandwidth allowance? Are you using the poor people's Internet? Satellite has severe monthly quotas and is by no means cheap. There are plenty of places in rural England where Internet radio stalls at busy times of day like the early evenings. I get just about enough bandwidth to stream normal TV but HDTV is out of the question and there is no prospect of any upgrade here until hell freezes over. We presently have three BT OpenReach vans parked in the village trying to sort out the mess they made installing the most recent ADSL connection and breaking 3 POTS circuits in the process. Three weeks and counting spent on repairing the collateral damage so far. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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Steve Firth wrote:
fred wrote: SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet An iPhone or Android device running TuneIn Pro works really well. Sound is a bit tinny, battery life terrible but the actual application is impressively good. +1 Don't forget to turn off the annoying announcements of foolball matches you can listen to. |
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:58:40 +0000, Steve Firth wrote:
fred wrote: SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? An iPhone or Android device running TuneIn Pro works really well. +1 I use that. -- Mike P |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article , Steve Firth wrote: An iPhone or Android device running TuneIn Pro works really well. Sound is a bit tinny, battery life terrible but the actual application is impressively good. It replaced my Worldspace radio that I used to get foreign language stations and it's much better. That's progress? My old Nokia phone has an excellent FM radio built in with decent sound quality and good battery life... yawn Yes Dave, whatever you say. Good luck with picking up RAI or Ngoma or Africa No 1 on your FM radio. -- €¢DarWin| _/ _/ |
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Dave Liquorice :
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:42:04 +0000, Mike Barnes wrote: SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. AAMOI what's wrong with a radio radio? Remember we are talking about a SWMBO'd here, logic doesn't come into it. And knowing SWMBO'ds Radio 4 may actually mean Radio 4 Extra, that is a digital only station. You are also making tha assumption that there is a useable R4 FM or LW signal available (depending on her ethusiaium or not for Cricket). Well, no, I wasn't making any assumption, I was asking a simple question. It's always possible that an FM radio with an "Internet Radio" sticker on it would satisfy the customer. :-) -- Mike Barnes |
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:45:37 +0000, Martin Brown
wrote: On 15/11/2012 16:14, fred wrote: SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? Most that are capable of that are also capable of DAB and FM. Digital radios eat batteries quickly so it is a bad idea! Some of the Pure or Revo ranges have rechargeable batteries .The Revo I have runs for about 7 to 8 hours on a charge. Seems a bit limiting to tie oneself to a mains socket if you are using a WIFI radio. I have a Revo Pico IR It's been built to be showerproof I can safely perch it near the bath or take it down the garden. Been superceded now by a later model that also has FM and DAB as well. Some models will be able to let you use the Listen again /Podcasts feature provided by some stations though occasionally you get an annoying drop of connection and the programme starts again at the beginning. Radio 4 extra seems to do that a lot in the evening. Another feature of Internet radios is the ease of clearly listening to stations not otherwise available. It has been interesting listening to WCBS in New York as the City got flooded , shut down and then gradually came alive again. One of the power distributors was getting some stick this morning for being too slow at reconnecting. Mustn't get too smug ,seems they are owned by National Grid so that'll no doubt end up being less profit for them and higher bills for us then. They all seem fairly expensive, Cheapest I found is a set from ALDI that was around the forty poundish mark some years ago . Mains only and no listen again feature and a bit slow to operate but not too bad a set once the presets are set up. It has two speakers but too close to be make much difference over a single one. Both it and the Revo have a stereo audio out though so can supply headphones or a suitable amplifier. The quality will vary with how good the Internet stream is ,some are poor, some are better a choice than DAB. G.Harman |
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, Steve Firth wrote: That's progress? My old Nokia phone has an excellent FM radio built in with decent sound quality and good battery life... yawn Yes Dave, whatever you say. Good luck with picking up RAI or Ngoma or Africa No 1 on your FM radio. yawn Yes, pet, whatever you say. Perhaps you might actually read the post from the OP you replied to. No mention of 'RAI or Ngoma or Africa No 1' - but of R4. Which my phone gets very well. In decent quality with decent battery life too. Are you trying to take over from dribble in answering a question that hasn't been asked? -- *If God had wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:14:33 -0800, fred wrote:
SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? Many and varied. SWMBO listens to R4 a lot; I bought her a Roberts Solar DAB/FM radio: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Roberts-DAB-...PQ/ref=sr_1_1? ie=UTF8&qid=1353020270&sr=8-1 It has cheaply-replaceable AA rechargeables but will run on alkalines (throw a switch in the battery compartment); stood on an east-facing window ledge it never needs mains recharging from March to October. I think the speaker is 67mm, and I suggest you don't get a radio with a smaller one. I have a Pure Evoke Flow FM/DAB/WiFi: http://www.amazon.co.uk/PURE-EVOKE-P...YU/ref=sr_1_1? ie=UTF8&qid=1353020543&sr=8-1 Excellent sound and plenty of it, but not cheap and the battery and remote (a very useful extra) add to the cost. -- Terry Fields |
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Martin Brown wrote: And a decent FM radio will run for about ten times longer. My first battery portable (very early transistor) was AM only. Battery in that lasted forever. Next came an FM one - not nearly as good battery life. DAB even shorter. Is an 'internet' one worse still? -- *I thought I wanted a career. Turns out I just wanted paychecks. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article , Steve Firth wrote: That's progress? My old Nokia phone has an excellent FM radio built in with decent sound quality and good battery life... yawn Yes Dave, whatever you say. Good luck with picking up RAI or Ngoma or Africa No 1 on your FM radio. yawn Yes, pet, whatever you say. Perhaps you might actually read the post from the OP you replied to. No mention of 'RAI or Ngoma or Africa No 1' - but of R4. Which my phone gets very well. In decent quality with decent battery life too. Are you trying to take over from dribble in answering a question that hasn't been asked? AYOTB? I gave the reasons why *I* like Tune In Pro radio. I did not say it was a reccomended or the only way to listen to R4. Still good to hear you have some manky old phone that can receive only one station. Very useful. Obviously if it receives more stations than R4 then it is useless, according to your bizarre standards. Oh BTW he also said the requirement was to pick up R4 *via the internet*. Can your tatty old phone do that? Or are you trying to take over from Drivel by answering an unasked question? And let's face it, even had the question been for advice on how to pick up R4 on FM, your answer - use a Nokia phone would be ****witted enough to be a Drivel answer. Coming next Dave advises how to knock in nails using his forehead, because hammers are some pointless modern invention. -- €¢DarWin| _/ _/ |
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:58:58 +0000, Martin Brown
wrote: On 15/11/2012 20:46, wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:45:37 +0000, Martin Brown wrote: Most that are capable of that are also capable of DAB and FM. Digital radios eat batteries quickly so it is a bad idea! Some of the Pure or Revo ranges have rechargeable batteries .The Revo I have runs for about 7 to 8 hours on a charge. Seems a bit limiting to tie oneself to a mains socket if you are using a WIFI radio. And a decent FM radio will run for about ten times longer. Horses for courses, this a fringe area and the main FM set needs it's loft aerial. The old portables need the rod aerials extended and they always seem to be in the way and there is still hiss at times and listening to medium wave hasn't been the same since coming from a boat was a valid excuse for a wooly sound. Although it doesn't apply to the national stations so much if I'm listening to a our BBC local and Bloody Football takes over I can catch the regular programme over the net from the originating region. That will happen less in the New Year with BBC cutbacks but will still be valid occasionally.and if I don't like the replacement English regional the that BBC will be offering it will be no problem to scour the world for something else. And how can you do listen again on FM? Like the HD recorder has made time shifting TV programmes almost the norm for many, an Internet set can do the same for radio. Battery time of 8 hours on a charge is more than adequate, I've no need to spend 80 hours in the bath or down the garden before plugging it in again and I doubt many others need to , If the set used U2's at the rate of four a day it might be something to worry about. I'm not sure it would last ten times longer anyway , have used the set on FM a few times as it was a convenient thing to do ,can't say I noticed it lasted that much more. Internet radio is more efficient than DAB. G.Harman |
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On 15/11/2012 23:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Martin Brown wrote: And a decent FM radio will run for about ten times longer. My first battery portable (very early transistor) was AM only. Battery in that lasted forever. Next came an FM one - not nearly as good battery life. DAB even shorter. Is an 'internet' one worse still? The pure one flow I bought in asdas clearence sale needs a ~7000mA li-ion battery pack and it doesn't last long when using wifi. |
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On 15/11/2012 18:25, Andrew Mawson wrote:
My iPhone does it quite cheerfully using a free app. My wife uses hers quite a bit to listen to Classic FM when in her polytunnel & greenhouses. It cuts out briefly as she moves around the site and the phone changes from one wireless hub to another (in the vegetable garden she connects to the barn hub, and elsewhere to the farm office or house hubs but the iphone does that automatically) My iPhone does it quite cheerfully using a free app. My wife uses hers quite a bit to listen to Classic FM when in her polytunnel & greenhouses. It cuts out briefly as she moves around the site and the phone changes from one wireless hub to another (in the vegetable garden she connects to the barn hub, and elsewhere to the farm office or house hubs but the iphone does that automatically) * Out of interest, does the mobile data connection kick in when out of wireless range? If so, one to watch, as with my contract at least I'd be reaching my limit very quickly (think you'd be loked at about 50MB/Hr). Caught out by this recently. Rob |
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The one thing this doesn't do is battery power:
http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/produc.../airstream-10/ However if battery is "negotiable", then I strongly recommend the Airstream - particularly if you like iconic/novel product design. Combined FM/DAB/Internet or FM/Internet models. What makes it though is its superb build quality and thoroughly well sorted out interface/controls. Internet via wifi or rj45, but radio is extendible aerial only, no ext antenna jack (for me that is the only shortcoming). http://www.amazon.co.uk/Monitor-Audi...3055557&sr=8-1 |
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:58:41 +0000 (UTC), Steve Firth wrote:
Why eat into your bandwidth allowance when there's a perfectly good FM signal available? Bandwidth allowance? Are you using the poor people's Internet? Most mobile phones have a download limit... As some one has pointed out if using a mobile make sure it doesn't drop across to 3G if it loses the WiFi... A 128kbps stream is roughly 60MBhr and will chomp through 1GB in around 16 hours. (If I've got the maths right...). -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:55:06 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:
Many seem to use their smartphones for this sort of stuff. You seen the unsubsidised price of smartphones? B-) But if you already have a WiFi smartphone (or an old one in a drawer) and some means of connecting to decent speakers it might not be a bad option. Tried the TuneIn (free, ad supported version) app mentioned earlier on an Android tablet. Very slick and easy to use. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 15-11-2012 16:14, fred wrote:
SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? As others have said the TunedIn radio app, free or paid for Pro version which allows you to record. Assuming that you have a smartphone. Just connect it to some audio equipment with a suitable cable if you want decent sound output. Don't have smart phone? Then pick up a cheap android phone from Ebay. No need to use a sim since you are only using it as a wifi device. Maybe buy a nexus 7 tablet. Then it can be a radio, tv and so much more. |
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:01:31 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:
I bet Mr & Mrs Besotted are going to be ****ed off when they have to have an ugly mains lead trailing over their minimalist worktop. http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/assets...ry/files/2010/ 12/as10-2.jpg And when the car keys go and hide behind that stepped forward bit. And it doesn't look like you can see the display unless you are standing over it. So you hear something you like but don't know artist/track you can't simply glance at the set and see what it is. Form over function again... -- Cheers Dave. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
You seen the unsubsidised price of smartphones? B-) Yes, they tend to sell like hotcakes http://play.google.com/store/devices...id=nexus_4_8gb |
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On 16/11/2012 09:15, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:55:06 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote: Many seem to use their smartphones for this sort of stuff. You seen the unsubsidised price of smartphones? B-) But if you already have a WiFi smartphone (or an old one in a drawer) and some means of connecting to decent speakers it might not be a bad option. Tried the TuneIn (free, ad supported version) app mentioned earlier on an Android tablet. Very slick and easy to use. Doesn't have to be a smartphone. Works just as well on an iPod touch and the first generation ones can probably be picked up cheaply secondhand. And she can store her music on it as well. Or, record from the radio using Tunein Pro. |
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, Steve Firth wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , Steve Firth wrote: That's progress? My old Nokia phone has an excellent FM radio built in with decent sound quality and good battery life... yawn Yes Dave, whatever you say. Good luck with picking up RAI or Ngoma or Africa No 1 on your FM radio. yawn Yes, pet, whatever you say. Perhaps you might actually read the post from the OP you replied to. No mention of 'RAI or Ngoma or Africa No 1' - but of R4. Which my phone gets very well. In decent quality with decent battery life too. Are you trying to take over from dribble in answering a question that hasn't been asked? AYOTB? I gave the reasons why *I* like Tune In Pro radio. I did not say it was a reccomended or the only way to listen to R4. And I gave my recommendation for listening to R4 or any other FM station while on the move. With decent quality and battery life. Still good to hear you have some manky old phone that can receive only one station. Very useful. Obviously if it receives more stations than R4 then it is useless, according to your bizarre standards. Were you born a ****** or did you have to learn how to be one in that public library? Oh BTW he also said the requirement was to pick up R4 *via the internet*. Can your tatty old phone do that? Or are you trying to take over from Drivel by answering an unasked question? And poor audio and poor battery consumption is your answer? And let's face it, even had the question been for advice on how to pick up R4 on FM, your answer - use a Nokia phone would be ****witted enough to be a Drivel answer. As was yours about using a phone etc where the OP obviously wanted some form of portable radio. -- *I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
[snip] And let's face it, even had the question been for advice on how to pick up R4 on FM, your answer - use a Nokia phone would be ****witted enough to be a Drivel answer. As was yours about using a phone etc where the OP obviously wanted some form of portable radio. Shame a slack handful of people disagree with you, eh? Err and you do note the massive hypocrisy of your response, given that you are pushing a phone that doesn't even work via the Internet? I have a different opinion about teachers to you, get over it. My brother is a mechanic BTW, does that mean all mechanics are above criticism? Alternatively are you just raising teachers to infallible sainthood or do add in those other saints the nurses "God bless 'em!" Although I'd like to see the latter showing some professionalism and actually doing the job instead of yakking all night and texting their mates. -- €¢DarWin| _/ _/ |
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, Steve Firth wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: [snip] And let's face it, even had the question been for advice on how to pick up R4 on FM, your answer - use a Nokia phone would be ****witted enough to be a Drivel answer. As was yours about using a phone etc where the OP obviously wanted some form of portable radio. Shame a slack handful of people disagree with you, eh? Err and you do note the massive hypocrisy of your response, given that you are pushing a phone that doesn't even work via the Internet? [Sigh] I simply offered a solution to the poor sound quality and battery life you seem to have with your iPhone. But, of course no comment on that perfect device is allowed by you. I have a different opinion about teachers to you, get over it. My brother is a mechanic BTW, does that mean all mechanics are above criticism? I'd suggest you actually read what you wrote about teachers... Alternatively are you just raising teachers to infallible sainthood or do add in those other saints the nurses "God bless 'em!" Most live in a world where things ain't all black or white. What world do you come from? Although I'd like to see the latter showing some professionalism and actually doing the job instead of yakking all night and texting their mates. Something else you've made a study of one, then, and proclaim on? -- *A cubicle is just a padded cell without a door. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Thursday, November 15, 2012 4:14:33 PM UTC, fred wrote:
SWMBO wants a battery operated radio that can pick up Radio 4 via the internet (we have a domestic wifi network. What are her options ? Thanks to all for the input. FM and LW reception is too poor in this case hence the suggested WiFi radio.. She had an old battery powered Sony FM/MW/LW for yonks but it is rapidly expiring and the newer version I have is hopeless at LW reception. Wasn't aware of the power consumption problems with WiFi radio making battery operation problematical. TuneIn on her iPhone sounds like a good idea though she doesn't like buds or cans and likes to carry the radio from room to room Perhaps a small speaker might fit the bill. She has streaming radio in the kitchen and I suggested extending this to the other rooms but no, wouldn't do at all. Must be a portable Ah well. |
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