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Well other than sell yourself and put even your most obscure talents down
on the CV, and big up your spate as a sole trader as well.
It is hard though as most recruitment folk are inherently lazy and like
lots of common things no matter how much of a bull****ter turns up on the
day.
I've given up work, its over rted!

Brian


Yes, it seems most application forms aren't built for that and they require
referees names, e-mail addresses and telephone numbers to be provided in
convenient little spaces before interview, and it seems its easier to simply
reject the form than go through actually looking at anything that proves
you've been self employed, and even less interested in anything that
deviates from the norm.

To be honest, there's not much in the way of work for this year, as I said
the business has been a little poor and I've been living off savings for
most of it, so for all practical purposes I have probably been unemployed
for that part of it


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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Well other than sell yourself and put even your most obscure talents down
on the CV, and big up your spate as a sole trader as well.
It is hard though as most recruitment folk are inherently lazy and like
lots of common things no matter how much of a bull****ter turns up on the
day.
I've given up work, its over rted!

Brian


Yes, it seems most application forms aren't built for that and they require
referees names, e-mail addresses and telephone numbers to be provided in
convenient little spaces before interview, and it seems its easier to simply
reject the form than go through actually looking at anything that proves
you've been self employed, and even less interested in anything that
deviates from the norm.

To be honest, there's not much in the way of work for this year, as I said
the business has been a little poor and I've been living off savings for
most of it, so for all practical purposes I have probably been unemployed
for that part of it



Can you say what it was or is your doing at all?...

I see your calling yourself computer guy so might presume IT perhaps?..
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computerguy wrote:
Yes, it seems most application forms aren't built for that and they
require referees names, e-mail addresses and telephone numbers to be
provided in convenient little spaces before interview, and it seems its
easier to simply reject the form than go through actually looking at
anything that proves you've been self employed, and even less interested
in anything that deviates from the norm.


Fill in the boxes with the name of your friendly accountant/lawyer/milkman,
and tell them what to say as and when the recruiters come a-calling. If
they ever do, at least at that point they're listening to English and your
referee can give them the appropriate details, and you've got over the
computer-says-no hurdle. I suspect the recruiters are unlikely to notice
the referee is XYZ Accountancy Ltd instead of ABC Computers plc.

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"computerguy" wrote:

Yes, it seems most application forms aren't built for that and they require
referees names, e-mail addresses and telephone numbers to be provided in
convenient little spaces before interview


Yeah they do that because recruiters are worthless specimens and the
harvest your referees then call them to try to sell them some bodies. Don't
play the game. Don't fill
In the stupid form, send a CV and under referees state that references will
only be provided once a job offer has been made.

If the recruiter won't accept that response apply elsewhere - because that
recruiter is not trying to fill a post.

Your posts here suggest that you may be a little desperate to get work.
Don't let that make you desperate to ignore common sense. Since you have
run a business why not consider short term contracts? Plenty of work
around, decent pay rates and you get cash in hand faster than if you go for
" permanent" employment.

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