In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground level"

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/l....xsl/21188.htm

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That page is mostly gobbledegook of foreign characters to me.
I can remember some years ago, a Benwell rocket which claimed as it had
fins that it would go nowhere but straight up, instead rose, looped the
loop, then cam back to earth between the garage wall and the patio, and
when we all got close to see if there was any damage, it blew up in a
spectacular way, cracking the cement and we never did find the fins!

Brian

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"Toby" wrote in message
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In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground
level"

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/l....xsl/21188.htm

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On 29/10/2012 10:51, Toby wrote:
In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground
level"


Isn't that what it's supposed to do?
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:55:35 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

That page is mostly gobbledegook of foreign characters to me.


That's because the main body of the page is a .jpg image.

I like the bit at the bottom that says
"All other fireworks sold by Lidl UK do not pose a safety risk!"
(their exclamation point).

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On Oct 29, 10:50*am, Toby wrote:
In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground level"

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/l....xsl/21188.htm

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I went in "J Mart" the other day.
They are selling fireworks from China, some are monsters
For £90 you can get this thing that looks like an IED. You could
definitely commit some sort of terrorist act using one. There must
have been nine or ten pounds of explosive/gunpowder.
I'm surprised no-one has thought of it and they are still selling
them.

On 29/10/2012 14:34, Roger Mills wrote:
On 29/10/2012 10:51, Toby wrote:
In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground
level"


Isn't that what it's supposed to do?

I expect it is supposed to eject a flare, that ten explodes in the air -
maybe they packed some of them wrong so it explodes first, or maybe the
cardboard is too thin and the whole lit just goes off in one go on the
ground...



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Oh, I guess they feel that blind people wont be in need of the advice as
they cant see the fireworks then.. grin

Brian

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:55:35 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

That page is mostly gobbledegook of foreign characters to me.


That's because the main body of the page is a .jpg image.

I like the bit at the bottom that says
"All other fireworks sold by Lidl UK do not pose a safety risk!"
(their exclamation point).

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Hmm, well a few cable ties around the outside before you let them off should
fix it then. I once remember when young a roman candle that had been packed
upside down or something. It was lit and the first time it tried to shoot a
pretty ball in the air, it launched itself out of the ground, then laid on
its side spouting flame and half hearted blobs of colour in two directions.
Vey sad.

Brian

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"Toby" wrote in message
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On 29/10/2012 14:34, Roger Mills wrote:
On 29/10/2012 10:51, Toby wrote:
In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground
level"


Isn't that what it's supposed to do?

I expect it is supposed to eject a flare, that ten explodes in the air -
maybe they packed some of them wrong so it explodes first, or maybe the
cardboard is too thin and the whole lit just goes off in one go on the
ground...



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I thought this had been banned as to be sold to those with certificates only
from years ago.
Brian

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On Oct 29, 10:50 am, Toby wrote:
In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground
level"

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/l....xsl/21188.htm

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I went in "J Mart" the other day.
They are selling fireworks from China, some are monsters
For £90 you can get this thing that looks like an IED. You could
definitely commit some sort of terrorist act using one. There must
have been nine or ten pounds of explosive/gunpowder.
I'm surprised no-one has thought of it and they are still selling
them.

On Oct 29, 4:40*pm, harry wrote:
On Oct 29, 10:50*am, Toby wrote:

In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground level"

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/l....xsl/21188.htm

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I went in "J Mart" the other day.
They are selling fireworks from China, some are monsters
For £90 you can get this thing that looks like an IED. You could
definitely commit some sort of terrorist act using one. There must
have been nine or ten pounds of explosive/gunpowder.

Its a pyrotechnic not an explosive, it burns very rapidly rather than
detonates.

Which is what limits it`s effectiveness as a weapon of terror, some
difference between a cannon and a howitzer..

Cheers
Adam
I'm surprised no-one has thought of it and they are still selling
them.

In message , Graham.
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:55:35 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

That page is mostly gobbledegook of foreign characters to me.


That's because the main body of the page is a .jpg image.

I like the bit at the bottom that says
"All other fireworks sold by Lidl UK do not pose a safety risk!"
(their exclamation point).


Using http://www.free-ocr.com/ produced the following, with minor
tidying up.

The company WECO Pyrotechnische
Fabrik GmbH advises against the use of a
fireworks battery called "Aquila" - production
year2Ol2. This item is being recalled.
This product must be returned to store for
a full refund. Contact;
WECO Pyrotechnische Fabrik GmbH
Due to a production error there is a risk
of the firework exploding at ground level,
which could be a safety risk. As a result
there is the risk of burns and / or other
injuries to people in the vicinity.
The product in question had been
sold exclusively through Lidl UK and is labelled
as follows; Date of notice;
October 24, 2012

Manufacturing date; 2012
Manufacturer;
WECO Pyrotechnische Fabrik GmbH
Sales period;
October I5, 2012 to October 24, 2Ol2

All other fireworks sold by Lidl UK do not pose a safety risk!


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Adam Aglionby wrote:
On Oct 29, 4:40 pm, harry wrote:
On Oct 29, 10:50 am, Toby wrote:

In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground level"

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/l....xsl/21188.htm

--
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Remove pants to reply

I went in "J Mart" the other day.
They are selling fireworks from China, some are monsters
For £90 you can get this thing that looks like an IED. You could
definitely commit some sort of terrorist act using one. There must
have been nine or ten pounds of explosive/gunpowder.

Its a pyrotechnic not an explosive, it burns very rapidly rather than
detonates.

Which is what limits it`s effectiveness as a weapon of terror, some
difference between a cannon and a howitzer..

Isn't gunpowder the same then - it burns quickly but explodes when
confined?

On 29/10/12 21:02, Simon Finnigan wrote:
Adam Aglionby wrote:
On Oct 29, 4:40 pm, harry wrote:
On Oct 29, 10:50 am, Toby wrote:

In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground level"

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/l....xsl/21188.htm

--
Toby...
Remove pants to reply

I went in "J Mart" the other day.
They are selling fireworks from China, some are monsters
For £90 you can get this thing that looks like an IED. You could
definitely commit some sort of terrorist act using one. There must
have been nine or ten pounds of explosive/gunpowder.

Its a pyrotechnic not an explosive, it burns very rapidly rather than
detonates.

Which is what limits it`s effectiveness as a weapon of terror, some
difference between a cannon and a howitzer..

Isn't gunpowder the same then - it burns quickly but explodes when
confined?

yes, but its a fairly rubbish explosive.


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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On Oct 29, 5:31*pm, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
I thought this had been banned as to be sold to those with certificates only
from years ago.
*Brian

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Dunno Brian but there they were. A large cabinet full of them.

On Oct 29, 6:25*pm, Adam Aglionby wrote:
On Oct 29, 4:40*pm, harry wrote:









On Oct 29, 10:50*am, Toby wrote:

In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground level"

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/l....xsl/21188.htm

--
Toby...
Remove pants to reply

I went in "J Mart" the other day.
They are selling fireworks from China, some are monsters
For £90 you can get this thing that looks like an IED. You could
definitely commit some sort of terrorist act using one. There must
have been nine or ten pounds of explosive/gunpowder.

Its a pyrotechnic not an explosive, it burns very rapidly rather than
detonates.

Which is what limits it`s effectiveness as a weapon of terror, some
difference between a cannon and a howitzer..

Cheers
Adam







I'm surprised no-one has thought of it and they are still selling
them.

It's all gun powder with added chemicals for the colours and binders.
Just needs a metal case to transform it into a bomb.
Bit of pipe for example.
When I was a lad, all schoolboys knew how to make a bomb.
You could borrow books out of the library that had diagrams and
instructions.
It was a common pastime.
Kids today don't know what they're missing.

On Oct 29, 9:02*pm, Simon Finnigan wrote:
Adam Aglionby wrote:
On Oct 29, 4:40 pm, harry wrote:
On Oct 29, 10:50 am, Toby wrote:

In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground level"

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/l....xsl/21188.htm

--
Toby...
Remove pants to reply

I went in "J Mart" the other day.
They are selling fireworks from China, some are monsters
For £90 you can get this thing that looks like an IED. You could
definitely commit some sort of terrorist act using one. There must
have been nine or ten pounds of explosive/gunpowder.

Its a pyrotechnic not an explosive, it burns very rapidly rather than
detonates.

Which is what limits it`s effectiveness as a weapon of terror, some
difference between a cannon and a howitzer..

Isn't gunpowder the same then - it burns quickly but explodes when
confined?

Correct. There are differences caused by the size of the grains and
the precise method of mixing the components.
You realise MI5 will be reading all this by now?
But there are all sorts of explosives you could once easily make. The
components are harder to get now or they are doctored/monitored.
I have to admit the chapati flour was a new one on me.

In article
,
harry wrote:


[Snip]

Correct. There are differences caused by the size of the grains and
the precise method of mixing the components.
You realise MI5 will be reading all this by now?
But there are all sorts of explosives you could once easily make. The
components are harder to get now or they are doctored/monitored.
I have to admit the chapati flour was a new one on me.

It doesn't have to be chapati flour - ordinary white flour will do. There
was very nasty accident some years ago during the filming of a Billy Cotton
Band Show episode involving an exploding piano. Someone thought it would
be fun to put the contents of a bag of flour inside the piano. As a
consequnce the 'pianist' was very badly injured.

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harry wrote:
On Oct 29, 9:02 pm, Simon Finnigan wrote:
Adam Aglionby wrote:
On Oct 29, 4:40 pm, harry wrote:
On Oct 29, 10:50 am, Toby wrote:

In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground level"

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/l....xsl/21188.htm

--
Toby...
Remove pants to reply

I went in "J Mart" the other day.
They are selling fireworks from China, some are monsters
For £90 you can get this thing that looks like an IED. You could
definitely commit some sort of terrorist act using one. There must
have been nine or ten pounds of explosive/gunpowder.

Its a pyrotechnic not an explosive, it burns very rapidly rather than
detonates.

Which is what limits it`s effectiveness as a weapon of terror, some
difference between a cannon and a howitzer..

Isn't gunpowder the same then - it burns quickly but explodes when
confined?

Correct. There are differences caused by the size of the grains and
the precise method of mixing the components.
You realise MI5 will be reading all this by now?
But there are all sorts of explosives you could once easily make. The
components are harder to get now or they are doctored/monitored.
I have to admit the chapati flour was a new one on me.

In the good old days I was capable of modelling a working nuclear reactor
or nuclear bomb using software from the USA. The software could be
exported, but the manual couldn't, apparently because it was capable of
determining the exact geometry, pressure etc needed to make it go bang.

I'm not bothered about MI5 reading what I post here in this identity. If I
was a criminal/terrorist I'd be using TOR, http tunnelling, VPNs and all
kinds of encryption to hide my identity. Easy enough to do, makes me wonder
why they want to tap int everyone's communications really.

On 30/10/12 07:41, charles wrote:
In article
,
harry wrote:


[Snip]

Correct. There are differences caused by the size of the grains and
the precise method of mixing the components.
You realise MI5 will be reading all this by now?
But there are all sorts of explosives you could once easily make. The
components are harder to get now or they are doctored/monitored.
I have to admit the chapati flour was a new one on me.

It doesn't have to be chapati flour - ordinary white flour will do. There
was very nasty accident some years ago during the filming of a Billy Cotton
Band Show episode involving an exploding piano. Someone thought it would
be fun to put the contents of a bag of flour inside the piano. As a
consequnce the 'pianist' was very badly injured.

cotton wool is a constituent of nitrocellulose...many common materials
will with some less common ones go bang.


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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
[snip]

cotton wool is a constituent of nitrocellulose...many common materials
will with some less common ones go bang.

In the same way that a tree is a constituent of gunpowder. Stick to talking
about subjects that you know about. The silence would be refreshing.

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When I was a lad, all schoolboys knew how to make a bomb.
You could borrow books out of the library that had diagrams and
instructions.
It was a common pastime.
Kids today don't know what they're missing.

Fingers?

On Oct 30, 7:23*am, harry wrote:
On Oct 29, 6:25*pm, Adam Aglionby wrote:









On Oct 29, 4:40*pm, harry wrote:

On Oct 29, 10:50*am, Toby wrote:

In case anyone here has planned on a DIY fireworks display, and have
already bought some from Lidl, one of their range "Aquila" has been
recalled because "there is a risk of the firework exploding at ground level"

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/l....xsl/21188.htm

--
Toby...
Remove pants to reply

I went in "J Mart" the other day.
They are selling fireworks from China, some are monsters
For £90 you can get this thing that looks like an IED. You could
definitely commit some sort of terrorist act using one. There must
have been nine or ten pounds of explosive/gunpowder.

Its a pyrotechnic not an explosive, it burns very rapidly rather than
detonates.

Which is what limits it`s effectiveness as a weapon of terror, some
difference between a cannon and a howitzer..

Cheers
Adam

I'm surprised no-one has thought of it and they are still selling
them.

It's all gun powder with added chemicals for the colours and binders.
Just needs a metal case to transform it into a bomb.
Bit of pipe for example.
When I was a lad, all schoolboys knew how to make a bomb.
You could borrow books out of the library that had diagrams and
instructions.
It was a common pastime.
Kids today don't know what they're missing.

Amazon has it covered ,its even on topic :-) the DIY Gunpowder
Cookbook

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Do-yours...ref=pd_sim_b_8

The link is somewhat ominous though, seem to remember the remote
gunpowder mixing room near Culzean Castle wasn`t the original....

one of the lesser known titles in the Home Workshop series:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-Worksho...1645075&sr=1-1

Sure this came up here recently

http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/www/d...gWithDynamite/

Cheers
Adam