On 24/10/2012 10:27, "Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk ;¬)" wrote:
On 19/10/2012 13:19, Man at B&Q wrote:

So how long before we have enough to run a Honda 50 for more than a few
miles?

Read the rest of the article.

"But company executives hope to build a large plant, which could produce
more than a tonne of petrol every day,"

So something between 12 to 20 cars could fill up their tanks each day.
And how much "renewable" energy will that take to produce I wonder?



The large plant they need is probably a Triffid.

"... a man named Umberto Christoforo Palanguez presented the Arctic &
European Fish Oil Company with a mysterious vegetable oil originating
from Russia."

--
Rod

On 23/10/2012 21:56, Doctor Drivel wrote:
Andy Champ wrote:
On 23/10/2012 18:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Thibnk its about 73 million now UK and NI

You mean UK, OR you mean GB & NI...

The UK is GB & NI.

That's kind of the point. Even you can do better than that if you read
carefully..

Andy

Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
-september
.org...
"Doctor Drivel" wrote:
[snip]

This man is an idiot.

That man is indeed an idiot. That man is you. You're a pathetic tosser
Drivel.

Oh my God a a

Stammering in the presence of your LORD! It is good that you are
overawed. Cower, brief mortal!

The

a a, a a, a a, the the, the...

Come on stop stammering and speak up if you are begging for my attention
again.

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
-september
.org...
"Doctor Drivel" wrote:
[snip]

This man is an idiot.

That man is indeed an idiot. That man is you. You're a pathetic
tosser
Drivel.

Oh my God a a

Stammering in the presence of your LORD! It is good that you are
overawed. Cower, brief mortal!

The

a

snip drivel

"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
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In message , Doctor Drivel
writes
Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Doctor Drivel
writes
wrote:
On Friday, October 19, 2012 11:33:25 PM UTC+1, SteveW wrote:
On 19/10/2012 13:40, wrote:

Easy for him to say - in a country with around 7 acres of land per
person that might *just* be possible. The UK has under 1 acre per
person...

It actually says 1 acre per house, not per person. Anyway, we're
thinking of moving to Ireland at some stage!

I was actually making some crude assumptions that we couldn't afford
to use more than say 10% of land for fuel and combining it with a
guess of 2 to 3 persons in a house, on average...

Your assumption was very crude.

The overall agricultural subsidy is over £5 billion per year. This
is £5 billion to an industry whose total turnover is only £15
billion per annum. Unbelievable. This implies huge inefficiency in
the agricultural industry, about 40% on the £15 billion figure.
Applied to the acres agriculture absorbs, and approximately 16
million acres are uneconomic. Apply real economics to farming and
you theoretically free up 16 million acres, which is near 27% of the
total UK land mass. This is land that certainly could be put to
better use for the population of the UK like for fuel.

Well lets try some sums (others may care to refine this).

16million acres? According to John Nix (imperial college at Wye) the
total UK arable crops area for 2000 was 45million acres.

Winter oil seed rape is likely to give the best fuel production at
around 362l/ton. Yield is around 1.4 tons/acre and for crop husbandry
reasons is grown 1 year in 4.

So we could produce 45,000,000 x 1.4 x 362 / 4 x 1000 tons of fuel.

Or 5.7 million tons.

UK road fuel use for 2009 was 35 million tons.....

Yep. Best forget fuel and build homes and leisure facilities on the land.
Then homes will be affordable.

I believe a rough approximation of housing cost is 1/3rd site, 1/3rd build
and 1/3rd profit for the builder.

Developer stuff maybe. More like 20% for the build. The average home in the
UK has 50 to 66% of the price the land price. The brick (capital) are not
worth much, which depreciates over time if not maintained.

Currently, housing associations can buy land which would not otherwise get
planning consent (exception 32?) at a small multiple of the value as
farmland.

They can also land bank and speculate not making land productive.

"Andy Champ" wrote in message
. uk...
On 23/10/2012 21:56, Doctor Drivel wrote:
Andy Champ wrote:
On 23/10/2012 18:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Thibnk its about 73 million now UK and NI

You mean UK, OR you mean GB & NI...

The UK is GB & NI.

That's kind of the point. Even you can do better than that if you read
carefully..

I can't do better than "The UK is GB & NI"

Doctor Drivel wrote:

a a, a a, a a, the the, the...
Come on stop stammering and speak up if you are begging for my
attention again.

snip drivel

If only someone would snip drivel.

Come on stammer boy, give us some more of your wit and wisdom.

In message , Steve Firth
writes
Doctor Drivel wrote:

a a, a a, a a, the the, the...
Come on stop stammering and speak up if you are begging for my
attention again.

snip drivel

If only someone would snip drivel.

If only someone had snipped drivels father ...

--
geoff

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
Doctor Drivel wrote:

a a, a a, a a, the the, the...
Come on stop stammering and speak up if you are begging for my
attention again.

snip drivel

If

this man is mad.

"Doctor Drivel" wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
Doctor Drivel wrote:

a a, a a, a a, the the, the...
Come on stop stammering and speak up if you are begging for my
attention again.

snip drivel

If only someone would snip drivel.

Come on stammer boy, give us some more of your wit and wisdom.
We all agree that you are mad, Drivel.

this man is mad.

MadisWhatYouAre,WeAgree.

--
€¢DarWin|
_/ _/

geoff wrote:

If only someone would snip drivel.

If only someone had snipped drivels father ...

Where's that time machine when you need one?

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:55:53 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:

geoff wrote:

If only someone would snip drivel.

If only someone had snipped drivels father ...

Where's that time machine when you need one?

It's on the Russian to-do list, once they get done with vane engines.

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Steve Firth
writes
Doctor Drivel wrote:

a a, a a, a a, the the, the...
Come on stop stammering and speak up if you are begging for my
attention again.

snip drivel

If only someone would snip drivel.

If only someone had snipped drivels father ...

Maxie, you are fun. How is the Paddy band going? Bought a new donkey jacket
lately?

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
...
geoff wrote:

If only someone would snip drivel.

If only someone had snipped drivels father ...

Where's that time machine when you need one?

A Doctor Who fan eh!

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
...
"Doctor Drivel" wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
Doctor Drivel wrote:

a a, a a, a a, the the, the...
Come on stop stammering and speak up if you are begging for my
attention again.

snip drivel

If only someone would snip drivel.

Come on stammer boy, give us some more of your wit and wisdom.
We all agree that you are mad, Drivel.

this man is mad.

Mad

More madness.

On Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:55:53 PM UTC, Steve Firth wrote:
geoff wrote:



If only someone would snip drivel.



If only someone had snipped drivels father ...



Where's that time machine when you need one?

Lost in time perhaps, it's hard enough remmebering where you leave things let alone when too !