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[OT] What a fat lump of bloatedness
Tim Watts wrote:
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit that is. Just done a clean install on VMWare Player for testing, and it's just had 8.1GB of disk (that's actual consumption on a sparse disk file). Fresh install, not even patched it yet. No apps. The linux host it runs on (my laptop) only had 6.6GB in use for the OS and that is rammed solid with apps. I was genuinely surprised - what the hell is it wasting all that space on? So glad my day job is 99% linux... God almighty - half way through the patching and it's jumped to 17GB! Which is a bit of a PITA as I want to clone this several times... Hmm - tempted to try XP. -- Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://www.dionic.net/tim/ "History will be kind to me for I intend to write it." |
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[OT] What a fat lump of bloatedness
Tim Watts wrote:
Tim Watts wrote: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit that is. Just done a clean install on VMWare Player for testing, and it's just had 8.1GB of disk (that's actual consumption on a sparse disk file). Fresh install, not even patched it yet. No apps. The linux host it runs on (my laptop) only had 6.6GB in use for the OS and that is rammed solid with apps. I was genuinely surprised - what the hell is it wasting all that space on? So glad my day job is 99% linux... God almighty - half way through the patching and it's jumped to 17GB! Which is a bit of a PITA as I want to clone this several times... Hmm - tempted to try XP. What are you testing? Some programs that work under XP don't work under Windows 7. I've yet to meet any that work under 7 and not under XP, though. The increase in image size while patching is due to the way that Windows update keeps an uncompressed backup copy of the previous file versions. These can safely be removed once you are up to date, giving you a much smaller image, with the only gotcha being that you can no longer uninstall patches. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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[OT] What a fat lump of bloatedness
John Williamson wrote:
What are you testing? Some programs that work under XP don't work under Windows 7. I've yet to meet any that work under 7 and not under XP, though. TurboFloorPlan. You are right - supports XP. I'm actually waiting for the next version due out anytime soon - but it will be based of CadSoft's Envisioneer and the just released new version still supports XP. The increase in image size while patching is due to the way that Windows update keeps an uncompressed backup copy of the previous file versions. These can safely be removed once you are up to date, giving you a much smaller image, with the only gotcha being that you can no longer uninstall patches. I thought I'd just turned of the system protection and file backups thingy - but perhaps it does not affect the patching process??? XP installing - virtual disk currently at 1.1GB Strewth - what a difference. God knows what Windows 8 will be like. -- Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://www.dionic.net/tim/ "It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." |
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[OT] What a fat lump of bloatedness
On 09/10/2012 21:47, Tim Watts wrote:
John Williamson wrote: What are you testing? Some programs that work under XP don't work under Windows 7. I've yet to meet any that work under 7 and not under XP, though. TurboFloorPlan. You are right - supports XP. I'm actually waiting for the next version due out anytime soon - but it will be based of CadSoft's Envisioneer and the just released new version still supports XP. The increase in image size while patching is due to the way that Windows update keeps an uncompressed backup copy of the previous file versions. These can safely be removed once you are up to date, giving you a much smaller image, with the only gotcha being that you can no longer uninstall patches. I thought I'd just turned of the system protection and file backups thingy - but perhaps it does not affect the patching process??? XP installing - virtual disk currently at 1.1GB Strewth - what a difference. God knows what Windows 8 will be like. I have a number of VMs: W8 - 12 GB Ubuntu - 3.8 GB Android - 520 MB -- Rod |
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[OT] What a fat lump of bloatedness
En el artículo , Tim Watts
escribió: I thought I'd just turned of the system protection and file backups thingy - but perhaps it does not affect the patching process??? It doesn't. Look in the %windir% directory, you'll see loads of $NtUninstallKBnnnnnnn$ type directories. Those are the patch roll-back files. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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[OT] What a fat lump of bloatedness
On 09/10/2012 21:10, Tim Watts wrote:
Tim Watts wrote: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit that is. Just done a clean install on VMWare Player for testing, and it's just had 8.1GB of disk (that's actual consumption on a sparse disk file). Fresh install, not even patched it yet. No apps. The linux host it runs on (my laptop) only had 6.6GB in use for the OS and that is rammed solid with apps. I was genuinely surprised - what the hell is it wasting all that space on? So glad my day job is 99% linux... God almighty - half way through the patching and it's jumped to 17GB! It keeps all the "undo" capability to back out each patch... You can prune that once patched. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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[OT] What a fat lump of bloatedness
On 09/10/2012 21:28, John Williamson wrote:
Tim Watts wrote: Hmm - tempted to try XP. What are you testing? Some programs that work under XP don't work under Windows 7. I've yet to meet any that work under 7 and not under XP, though. The only program I know of which won't run under XP and needs Vista or 7 is er.... Internet Explorer 9 ! Tim w |
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[OT] What a fat lump of bloatedness
On 10/10/2012 16:46, Tim W wrote:
On 09/10/2012 21:28, John Williamson wrote: Tim Watts wrote: Hmm - tempted to try XP. What are you testing? Some programs that work under XP don't work under Windows 7. I've yet to meet any that work under 7 and not under XP, though. The only program I know of which won't run under XP and needs Vista or 7 is er.... Internet Explorer 9 ! Battlefield Bad Company 3 -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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