A pal has been given an old table he thinks may be quite nice - but has
plywood glued to the top. He says it looks like Evostick contact adhesive
has been used.
Any tips on removing it with minimal damage to the original wood?

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

A pal has been given an old table he thinks may be quite nice - but has
plywood glued to the top. He says it looks like Evostick contact adhesive
has been used.
Any tips on removing it with minimal damage to the original wood?

Angle grinder? (used cautiously, of course)

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On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:56:49 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

A pal has been given an old table he thinks may be quite nice - but has
plywood glued to the top. He says it looks like Evostick contact adhesive
has been used.
Any tips on removing it with minimal damage to the original wood?

Angle grinder, naturally.

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On Sep 3, 11:58*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
A pal has been given an old table he thinks may be quite nice - but has
plywood glued to the top. He says it looks like Evostick contact adhesive
has been used.
Any tips on removing it with minimal damage to the original wood?

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Electric plane?

Jonathan

Jonathan wrote:
On Sep 3, 11:58 pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
A pal has been given an old table he thinks may be quite nice - but has
plywood glued to the top. He says it looks like Evostick contact adhesive
has been used.
Any tips on removing it with minimal damage to the original wood?

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Electric plane?


Like this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuw-CZe1qdQ
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On 04/09/2012 08:07, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
On Sep 3, 11:58 pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
A pal has been given an old table he thinks may be quite nice - but has
plywood glued to the top. He says it looks like Evostick contact
adhesive
has been used.
Any tips on removing it with minimal damage to the original wood?

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Electric plane?


Like this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuw-CZe1qdQ
Jonathan


If the original wood underneath is veneered then some of that is likely
to be ripped off, if its solid wood then any damage could be planed.
I cant see how any solvent (other than at the edges) would get to the
glue so think its a case of rip it off and fingers crossed.

On 04/09/2012 08:17, ss wrote:
On 04/09/2012 08:07, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
On Sep 3, 11:58 pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
A pal has been given an old table he thinks may be quite nice - but has
plywood glued to the top. He says it looks like Evostick contact
adhesive
has been used.
Any tips on removing it with minimal damage to the original wood?

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*I don't work here. I'm a consultant

Dave Plowman London SW
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Electric plane?


Like this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuw-CZe1qdQ
Jonathan


If the original wood underneath is veneered then some of that is likely
to be ripped off, if its solid wood then any damage could be planed.
I cant see how any solvent (other than at the edges) would get to the
glue so think its a case of rip it off and fingers crossed.

Drill to fixed depth less than the plywood put in some linear shallow
cuts and add solvent. Cover and leave for a few days topping up from
time to time. Biggest problem is that all the effective penetrating
solvents for Evostick are either highly flammable or banned these days.
You might be able to get it a bit at a time but cutting in without
hitting the good wood underneath will be a bit tricky.

There is a serious risk that the plywood was put on top for a very good
reason and all your efforts will be wasted.

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On Sep 3, 11:58*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
A pal has been given an old table he thinks may be quite nice - but has
plywood glued to the top. He says it looks like Evostick contact adhesive
has been used.
Any tips on removing it with minimal damage to the original wood?

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Get the bulk of it off with an electric plane. Get what remains off
with a belt sander.
You will probably wreck it if it is veneered. If solid wood you will
be OK.

To determine if it is veneered look at the edges.
If two edges are showing end grain, it is solid wood. If not, it is
likely veneered and the edges are trimmed to cover the cheap wood
core.

Also check the underside. If it is and expensive wood, likely to be
solid timber, if cheap wood likely to be veneered.

On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:10:18 AM UTC+1, harry wrote:
On Sep 3, 11:58*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"

wrote:

A pal has been given an old table he thinks may be quite nice - but has

plywood glued to the top. He says it looks like Evostick contact adhesive

has been used.

Any tips on removing it with minimal damage to the original wood?



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Get the bulk of it off with an electric plane. Get what remains off

with a belt sander.

You will probably wreck it if it is veneered. If solid wood you will

be OK.



To determine if it is veneered look at the edges.

If two edges are showing end grain, it is solid wood. If not, it is

likely veneered and the edges are trimmed to cover the cheap wood

core.



Also check the underside. If it is and expensive wood, likely to be

solid timber, if cheap wood likely to be veneered.

Is a cheesewire approach a possibility? "Slice" through the adhesive using a thin wire with a side to side motion until you've cut through it. Then simply lift off the plywood.

Luke

On Sep 3, 11:58*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
Any tips on removing it with minimal damage to the original wood?

Big chisel.Split the plywood layer by layer.

Then when you're nearly down to it, investigate one patch and see why
they stuck plywood over the top in the first place. I'm assuming that
it was veneered and that the veneer has failed. So then you can break
out the belt sander, take it down to the substrate timber and then re-
veneer it. (Hot hide glue BTW, it's still the best way)

Otherwise just go and buy a table. Brown furniture is really cheap
these days.

On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:17:20 +0100, ss wrote:

I cant see how any solvent (other than at the edges) would get to the
glue so think its a case of rip it off and fingers crossed.

I can't think of a solvent that will soften cured evostick.

Heat will soften it though. Maybe split the ply as others have suggested
with a large (1 1/2" or 2") chisel they use a heat gun to (carefully)
warm it all up and peel the ply off. Might not need to split the ply if
it's thin, which might make the peeling easier.

Not sure what you'll do with any evostick residue it'll clog sanding
stuff almost instantly, you might get away with something really coarse,
40 grit?

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On 04/09/2012 13:16, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:17:20 +0100, ss wrote:

I cant see how any solvent (other than at the edges) would get to the
glue so think its a case of rip it off and fingers crossed.

Not sure what you'll do with any evostick residue it'll clog sanding
stuff almost instantly, you might get away with something really coarse,
40 grit?

It will come off with xylene, Hammerite brush cleaner or petrol (in
about that order of preference to use) and a chisel or scraper.

Do this outside and well away from any possible sources of ignition if
you wish to stay alive. Don't breathe the fumes either.

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Martin Brown wrote:
On 04/09/2012 13:16, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:17:20 +0100, ss wrote:

I cant see how any solvent (other than at the edges) would get to the
glue so think its a case of rip it off and fingers crossed.

Not sure what you'll do with any evostick residue it'll clog sanding
stuff almost instantly, you might get away with something really coarse,
40 grit?

It will come off with xylene, Hammerite brush cleaner or petrol (in
about that order of preference to use) and a chisel or scraper.

Do this outside and well away from any possible sources of ignition if
you wish to stay alive. Don't breathe the fumes either.

It will but its massively messy and scarcely worth it.

Plane the lot off and than look at what's left.



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Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:17:20 +0100, ss wrote:

I cant see how any solvent (other than at the edges) would get to the
glue so think its a case of rip it off and fingers crossed.

I can't think of a solvent that will soften cured evostick.

Oh for sure celluose thinners will in time dissolve it. It was the only
way I could ever clean up spills of it.


Heat will soften it though. Maybe split the ply as others have suggested
with a large (1 1/2" or 2") chisel they use a heat gun to (carefully)
warm it all up and peel the ply off. Might not need to split the ply if
it's thin, which might make the peeling easier.

Not sure what you'll do with any evostick residue it'll clog sanding
stuff almost instantly, you might get away with something really coarse,
40 grit?



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In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
I cant see how any solvent (other than at the edges) would get to the
glue so think its a case of rip it off and fingers crossed.

I can't think of a solvent that will soften cured evostick.

There is a pukka Evostick solvent. One of those products not on display in
the sheds - so obviously glue sniffer nirvana. Pretty pricey, though.

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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher writes:
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:17:20 +0100, ss wrote:

I cant see how any solvent (other than at the edges) would get to the
glue so think its a case of rip it off and fingers crossed.

I can't think of a solvent that will soften cured evostick.

Oh for sure celluose thinners will in time dissolve it. It was the only
way I could ever clean up spills of it.

Original evostick was toluene based.
The EU banned that use, and it now uses something else
which doesn't work as well (which may be good for the OP).
So it may depend when it was glued.

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