My 25 year old Belling electric cooker is about to die and I'm not able or
willing to throw more money towards a regular repair.

I have a good gas cooker stored in a garage - or at least it was good when I
last used it 2 years ago.

Question is this: to uninstall the electric cooker do I need an electrician
and to install the gas cooker do I need a gas fitter?

There's no way I can find two in one and I'm not even sure such a person
exists in the UK. So I would have to pay two tradesman for what is
essentially a fitting job.

So I was thinking of diy uninstall of the electric cooker and diy install of
the gas cooker.

In respect of the electric cooker. If I turn off the cooker circuit at the
fuse box and disconnect the wiring from behind the cooker plug what can go
wrong?

But is it lawful for me to install the gas cooker myself? Do I need to have
a gas fitting qualification to fit the gas cooker?

In terms of risk if I did need to spend £50 for unfitting/fitting would it
be better spent on uninstalling the electric cooker or installing the gas
cooker?

Or is this not worth the risk of diy?

On 30/08/2012 20:29, Gareth wrote:
My 25 year old Belling electric cooker is about to die and I'm not able
or willing to throw more money towards a regular repair.

I have a good gas cooker stored in a garage - or at least it was good
when I last used it 2 years ago.

Question is this: to uninstall the electric cooker do I need an
electrician and to install the gas cooker do I need a gas fitter?

There's no way I can find two in one and I'm not even sure such a person
exists in the UK. So I would have to pay two tradesman for what is
essentially a fitting job.

So I was thinking of diy uninstall of the electric cooker and diy
install of the gas cooker.

In respect of the electric cooker. If I turn off the cooker circuit at
the fuse box and disconnect the wiring from behind the cooker plug what
can go wrong?

But is it lawful for me to install the gas cooker myself? Do I need to
have a gas fitting qualification to fit the gas cooker?

In terms of risk if I did need to spend £50 for unfitting/fitting would
it be better spent on uninstalling the electric cooker or installing the
gas cooker?

Or is this not worth the risk of diy?

Un-installing a standalone electric cooker should be pretty
straightforward, there should be a cooker outlet behind the cooker that
will have the cable for the cooker connected into by screw terminals, so
power off the consumer unit, as just tripping the MCB or pulling the
fuse will not disconnect the neutral, so to be on the safe side, just
power off everything.

Pull out the cooker and undo the cover on the cooker outlet
it should resemble somthing like this
http://www.dbatesting.co.uk/images/c...rth-sleeve.jpg

Unscrew the conenctions and remove the cooker cable
Screw up the screws so they cant fall out and replace the cover

The cooker is now unisntalled.


Installing a gas cooker may be very simple if you already have a bayonet
connection
(http://www.toolstation.com/images/li...bbig/77542.jpg)
there, what do you have behind the cooker?

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On 30/08/2012 20:29, Gareth wrote:
My 25 year old Belling electric cooker is about to die and I'm not able
or willing to throw more money towards a regular repair.

I have a good gas cooker stored in a garage - or at least it was good
when I last used it 2 years ago.

Question is this: to uninstall the electric cooker do I need an
electrician and to install the gas cooker do I need a gas fitter?

Uninstalling the cooker - probably not. Chances are you can turn off the
cooker point, and then disconnect the cable from the terminal point if
its separate. If it connects directly to the cooker switch, then turn
off the circuit for that.

There's no way I can find two in one and I'm not even sure such a person
exists in the UK. So I would have to pay two tradesman for what is
essentially a fitting job.

So I was thinking of diy uninstall of the electric cooker and diy
install of the gas cooker.

In respect of the electric cooker. If I turn off the cooker circuit at
the fuse box and disconnect the wiring from behind the cooker plug what
can go wrong?

not much...

But is it lawful for me to install the gas cooker myself? Do I need to
have a gas fitting qualification to fit the gas cooker?

Assuming there is a gas connector ready and waiting, and there is
already a hose fitted to the cooker (which it sounds like there probably
is), then its just a case of plugging the hose into the bayonet
connector. Those are designed to be user serviceable.

If you need to install the hose kit on the cooker, or install a bayonet
connector on the fixed gas pipework, then that is a job for a competent
person (which may or may not be you)

Note also that there are additional ventilation and room size
requirements for gas cookers that don't apply to electric ones. See BS
6172:2010 (downloadable from your local library's web site probably) for
the full detail.

In terms of risk if I did need to spend £50 for unfitting/fitting would
it be better spent on uninstalling the electric cooker or installing the
gas cooker?

Or is this not worth the risk of diy?

There is no real risk taking the old one out. If you need new pipework
for the gas side however than based on the level of your questions (no
offence intended!) its probable that you need to get a gas safe
registered fitter in for that.


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John.

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On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:58:09 +0100, Toby wrote:

... so power off the consumer unit, as just tripping the MCB or pulling
the fuse will not disconnect the neutral, so to be on the safe side,
just power off everything.

There should also be a cooker switch somewhere near the cooker. These are
double pole so certainly trip the cooker MCB and switch off at the cooker
switch but killing the whole house seems a bit OTT to me.

As others have said the installtion of the gas cooker might be very
simple. If it is just a case of connecting up the hose and bayonet
connector I'd still put a bit of slightly soapy water over *all* the
joints just to make sure there are no leaks.

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Cheers
Dave.

On Aug 30, 8:29*pm, "Gareth" wrote:
My 25 year old Belling electric cooker is about to die and I'm not able or
willing to throw more money towards a regular repair.

I have a good gas cooker stored in a garage - or at least it was good when I
last used it 2 years ago.

Question is this: to uninstall the electric cooker do I need an electrician
and to install the gas cooker do I need a gas fitter?

There's no way I can find two in one and I'm not even sure such a person
exists in the UK. So I would have to pay two tradesman for what is
essentially a fitting job.

So I was thinking of diy uninstall of the electric cooker and diy install of
the gas cooker.

In respect of the electric cooker. If I turn off the cooker circuit at the
fuse box and disconnect the wiring from behind the cooker plug what can go
wrong?

But is it lawful for me to install the gas cooker myself? Do I need to have
a gas fitting qualification to fit the gas cooker?

In terms of risk if I did need to spend 50 for unfitting/fitting would it
be better spent on uninstalling the electric cooker or installing the gas
cooker?

Or is this not worth the risk of diy?

Before you do all this, what's up with the belling? I can't imagine a
fault that would genuinely need repeat repairs.


NT

In article ,
Owain writes:
On Aug 30, 10:28*pm, "Dave Liquorice" wrote:
As others have said the installtion of the gas cooker might be very
simple. If it is just a case of connecting up the hose and bayonet
connector I'd still put a bit of slightly soapy water over *all* the
joints just to make sure there are no leaks.
Leak detector fluid please.
This is uk.d-i-y not uk.british.gas :-)

You do a pressure drop test to test for leaks.
You use leak detector fluid to find the leak if it shows you have one.

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Andrew Gabriel
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On 30/08/2012 20:29, Gareth wrote:
My 25 year old Belling electric cooker is about to die and I'm not able
or willing to throw more money towards a regular repair.

I have a good gas cooker stored in a garage - or at least it was good
when I last used it 2 years ago.

Question is this: to uninstall the electric cooker do I need an
electrician and to install the gas cooker do I need a gas fitter?

There's no way I can find two in one and I'm not even sure such a person
exists in the UK. So I would have to pay two tradesman for what is
essentially a fitting job.


There are fitters who do both, but they mainly work for independent
appliance retailers. We had a dual fuel cooker fitted for about £100,
which included a length of gas pipe and new wiring back to the consumer
unit. If you have complicated questions, the guy in the shop will
probably tell you to ring the fitter direct. Devious, but it got me the
guy's number