george - dicegeorge wrote:
Vandals have broken 3 windows on the Rainbow Kids Bus.
How can I repair them so they're legal on the road?

Find replacement originals somewhere?
Get a window firm to cut and fit laminate glass?
Make hardboard templates and take them to a glass maker?
plastic?

any help or other ideas please...

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I've used polycarbonate sheet in the past in those positions, but you
need to match the thickness of the glass so you can re-use the original
rubbers. The C&U rules used to say they that windows on vehicles have to
be of a "safety glazing material" unless it's the windscreen, in which
case, it has to be glass, so if they're glass, either toughened or
laminated.

Try a bus scrapyard (Yes, they do exist) or, if the insurance company
are paying, there are specialist companies. You could also try asking
your local plant hire companies, as they will know who in your area can
supply and fit glass of the right size. I used a plant repair firm when
I had a window broken in the Land Rover, and it cost much less than the
official part.


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John Williamson wrote:

I've used polycarbonate sheet in the past in those positions...

Is there any requirement for the 'glass' to be easily breakable so that
people can escape through windows if the bus overturns in an accident?

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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:
John Williamson wrote:

I've used polycarbonate sheet in the past in those positions...

Is there any requirement for the 'glass' to be easily breakable so that
people can escape through windows if the bus overturns in an accident?

As far as I'm aware, only if it's a designated emergency exit, in which
case, there'll be a hammer nearby. Alternatively, you get a mounting
system which releases the window by pulling a ring, which loosens the
window in its frame so it can be pushed out.

As the vehicle in question doesn't appear to be a PCV but is a playbus
not licenced to carry passengers, other rules might apply, such as the
fire escape rules for buildings.

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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:
John Williamson wrote:

I've used polycarbonate sheet in the past in those positions...

Is there any requirement for the 'glass' to be easily breakable so that
people can escape through windows if the bus overturns in an accident?

As far as I'm aware, only if it's a designated emergency exit, in which
case, there'll be a hammer nearby. Alternatively, you get a mounting
system which releases the window by pulling a ring, which loosens the
window in its frame so it can be pushed out.

As the vehicle in question doesn't appear to be a PCV but is a playbus
not licenced to carry passengers, other rules might apply, such as the
fire escape rules for buildings.

The only neg I could think of in using non standard replacement glass is
the _possibility_ that any requirement for safety glass can only met by
using kite marked product that indicates it is suitable for vehicular
use. Not saying it will be an issue, just flagging it as worth checking
with a tester before fitting. Using the plant glass replacement company
already linked to should avoid such difficulties.
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Try a bus scrapyard (Yes, they do exist) ...


PVS Barnsley claim to be the largest.

http://www.pvsbuses.com

Contact them via their website with details of the windows required.

Possibly they might be able to point to a similar operation closer to
you if you ask, as personal collection would solve any delivery
problems.

Incidentally, I often notice, when travelling on vintage buses, that the
BS certification on ALL windows is circled in yellow chinagraph pencil.
I assume this check is part of the MOT.

Note that many vehicles I travel on are privately owned and are NOT
licenced PCVs. (A PCV is subject to a much stricter MOT.)

If you are going down the polycarbonate route, I would suggest you check
this out.

Have you thought of having a word with your MOT testing station about
this?

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Terry

Terry Casey wrote:
Incidentally, I often notice, when travelling on vintage buses, that the
BS certification on ALL windows is circled in yellow chinagraph pencil.
I assume this check is part of the MOT.

The BS certification on PCVs is checked as part of the test, the
chinagraph circle is to draw the examiner's attention to it, as on older
vehicles,the mark is often faded and hard to find.

It may also be a requirement for Class 5 vehicles, but I don't deal with
those, so couldn't comment with any authority.

Note that many vehicles I travel on are privately owned and are NOT
licenced PCVs. (A PCV is subject to a much stricter MOT.)

If you are going down the polycarbonate route, I would suggest you check
this out.

Have you thought of having a word with your MOT testing station about
this?

Always a good idea. VOSA have a helpline and helpful e-mail contacts and
can often advise you without seeing the vehicle or having details which
will identify it or you:-

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/contactus/contactus.htm

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John.