Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money, another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

Mr Pounder wrote:
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money, another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.



I am bored with it already. And it hasn't even started.

Or has it? Oh, don't tell me. I couldn't care less.

--
To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:12:05 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Mr Pounder wrote:
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another **** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been
better spent on the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

I am bored with it already. And it hasn't even started.

Or has it? Oh, don't tell me. I couldn't care less.

It hasn't but people have started arriving and the chaos has started.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Mr Pounder wrote:
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another **** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been
better spent on the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.



I am bored with it already. And it hasn't even started.

Or has it? Oh, don't tell me. I couldn't care less.

I actually went to see the torch pass, the wife decided that as it will
never happen again we may as well see what the fuss was about.
I was underwhelmed as I expect the 30 or so other people standing there
watching.
The BBC reported thousands turned out so I guess they were somewhere else.

On 21/07/2012 20:03, dennis@home wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Mr Pounder wrote:
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another **** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been
better spent on the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has
been spent.



I am bored with it already. And it hasn't even started.

Or has it? Oh, don't tell me. I couldn't care less.

I actually went to see the torch pass, the wife decided that as it will
never happen again we may as well see what the fuss was about.
I was underwhelmed as I expect the 30 or so other people standing there
watching.
The BBC reported thousands turned out so I guess they were somewhere else.

Bloody joke. In Leyton nobody could pick their kids up from school by
car. Had they waited a week, the schools would have broken up.

stuart noble wrote:
On 21/07/2012 20:03, dennis@home wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Mr Pounder wrote:
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of
money, another **** up waiting to happen and that the money
could have been better spent on the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money
has been spent.



I am bored with it already. And it hasn't even started.

Or has it? Oh, don't tell me. I couldn't care less.

I actually went to see the torch pass, the wife decided that as it
will never happen again we may as well see what the fuss was about.
I was underwhelmed as I expect the 30 or so other people standing
there watching.
The BBC reported thousands turned out so I guess they were
somewhere else.

Bloody joke.



In Leyton nobody could pick their kids up from school by
car.

That's good news

--
Adam

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:03:15 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:



"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Mr Pounder wrote:
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another **** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been
better spent on the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.



I am bored with it already. And it hasn't even started.

Or has it? Oh, don't tell me. I couldn't care less.

I actually went to see the torch pass, the wife decided that as it will
never happen again we may as well see what the fuss was about.
I was underwhelmed as I expect the 30 or so other people standing there
watching.
The BBC reported thousands turned out so I guess they were somewhere else.

I think they were all in Huddersfield. The police estimate for
attendance was about 40,000 so based on their figures from demos I
guess that makes it about two million or so.

Nick

Nick Odell wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:03:15 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:



"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Mr Pounder wrote:
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of
money, another **** up waiting to happen and that the money
could have been better spent on the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money
has been spent.



I am bored with it already. And it hasn't even started.

Or has it? Oh, don't tell me. I couldn't care less.

I actually went to see the torch pass, the wife decided that as it
will never happen again we may as well see what the fuss was about.
I was underwhelmed as I expect the 30 or so other people standing
there watching.
The BBC reported thousands turned out so I guess they were
somewhere else.

I think they were all in Huddersfield. The police estimate for
attendance was about 40,000 so based on their figures from demos I
guess that makes it about two million or so.

There were plenty watching in Doncaster

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18579631

--
Adam

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
wrote:

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

You should worry. Stratford is between me and London. People who live in
the London area are going to have a nightmare with closed lanes, closed
roads, public transport even more overloaded than usual etc.
Those living in the area which was supposed to be improved seem to have
been most put out.

Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
wrote:

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

You should worry. Stratford is between me and London. People who live in
the London area are going to have a nightmare with closed lanes, closed
roads, public transport even more overloaded than usual etc.
Those living in the area which was supposed to be improved seem to have
been most put out.

I'm still wondering if there are going to be confused foreign tourists in
the other Stratford wondering where the stadium is...


--
Tim Watts

On 21/07/2012 19:31, Tim Watts wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
wrote:

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

You should worry. Stratford is between me and London. People who live in
the London area are going to have a nightmare with closed lanes, closed
roads, public transport even more overloaded than usual etc.
Those living in the area which was supposed to be improved seem to have
been most put out.

I'm still wondering if there are going to be confused foreign tourists in
the other Stratford wondering where the stadium is...

Quite likely - and heaven help anyone who doesn't understand written and
spoken English at a fluent standard. The signs are user hostile.

OK. They are bright shocking pink but they are not language independent!

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On 22/07/2012 21:22, Martin Brown wrote:
On 21/07/2012 19:31, Tim Watts wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
wrote:

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

You should worry. Stratford is between me and London. People who live in
the London area are going to have a nightmare with closed lanes, closed
roads, public transport even more overloaded than usual etc.
Those living in the area which was supposed to be improved seem to have
been most put out.

I'm still wondering if there are going to be confused foreign tourists in
the other Stratford wondering where the stadium is...

Quite likely - and heaven help anyone who doesn't understand written and
spoken English at a fluent standard. The signs are user hostile.

OK. They are bright shocking pink but they are not language independent!

Most attempts at language independent signs usually ensure that people
of all languages fail to understand them equally.


--
Cheers,

John.

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On 23/07/2012 01:26, John Rumm wrote:
On 22/07/2012 21:22, Martin Brown wrote:
On 21/07/2012 19:31, Tim Watts wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
wrote:

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has
been
spent.

You should worry. Stratford is between me and London. People who
live in
the London area are going to have a nightmare with closed lanes, closed
roads, public transport even more overloaded than usual etc.
Those living in the area which was supposed to be improved seem to have
been most put out.

I'm still wondering if there are going to be confused foreign
tourists in
the other Stratford wondering where the stadium is...

Quite likely - and heaven help anyone who doesn't understand written and
spoken English at a fluent standard. The signs are user hostile.

OK. They are bright shocking pink but they are not language independent!

Most attempts at language independent signs usually ensure that people
of all languages fail to understand them equally.


AAMOI London Ambulance have printed up sets of laminated 'flash cards'
in 12 languages asking relevant questions about "where is the pain",
"breath in, breath out" etc.



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
wrote:

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

You should worry. Stratford is between me and London. People who live in
the London area are going to have a nightmare with closed lanes, closed
roads, public transport even more overloaded than usual etc.
Those living in the area which was supposed to be improved seem to have
been most put out.

When it happened in Sydney Australia, every one whinged and moaned
before the event but in reality when it started the traffic flowed
better than ever, the buses and trains flowed faultlessly.

"F Murtz" wrote in message
d.com...
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
wrote:

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

You should worry. Stratford is between me and London. People who live in
the London area are going to have a nightmare with closed lanes, closed
roads, public transport even more overloaded than usual etc.
Those living in the area which was supposed to be improved seem to have
been most put out.

When it happened in Sydney Australia, every one whinged and moaned before
the event but in reality when it started the traffic flowed better than
ever, the buses and trains flowed faultlessly.

Only because hordes chose not to bother with normal movements and work etc.

It was also deliberately timed so that schools were out etc.

On Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:22:14 PM UTC+1, Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
> wrote:

> Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
> another
> **** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
> spent on
> the NHS?
> I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
> spent.
>
You should worry. Stratford is between me and London. People who live in
the London area are going to have a nightmare with closed lanes, closed
roads, public transport even more overloaded than usual etc.

Started today wouldn't let us on leyton station platform as it was too busy, had to get the bus. So 3 buses and 1:35mins from E10 to E1 .
5.3 miles, Google estimate by car 13-15mins .


Those living in the area which was supposed to be improved seem to have
been most put out.

In message , Mr Pounder
writes
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money, another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

Its a corporate money orgy

--
geoff

In message , geoff
writes
In message , Mr Pounder
writes
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money, another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

Its a corporate money orgy

The tackiest show on earth.
--
hugh

On 23/07/2012 19:00, hugh wrote:
In message , geoff
writes
In message , Mr Pounder
writes
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

Its a corporate money orgy

The tackiest show on earth.

I beg to differ - just back from Disneyland (not my idea...)

On 21/07/12 19:56, Mr Pounder wrote:
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money, another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better spent on
the NHS?

Too right.

I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

I live in London., I don't see it as a benefit.


--
djc

"djc" wrote in message
...
On 21/07/12 19:56, Mr Pounder wrote:
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better spent
on
the NHS?

Too right.

I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.

I live in London., I don't see it as a benefit.


You could become a pickpocket.

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
wrote:

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.



And it is indirectly getting even more of our money than may initially be
obvious. Atos is a sponsor, sorry - partner, for the Olympics &
Paralympics. But they get a huge wodge of money from the DWP for doing
medical assessments on DLA claimants - which these days seem to have
extraordinarily high levels of successful appeals.

--
Rod

"polygonum" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
wrote:

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.



And it is indirectly getting even more of our money than may initially be
obvious. Atos is a sponsor, sorry - partner, for the Olympics &
Paralympics. But they get a huge wodge of money from the DWP for doing
medical assessments on DLA claimants - which these days seem to have
extraordinarily high levels of successful appeals.

--
Rod

I thought I would be standing alone with my posting.

"polygonum" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
wrote:

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better spent
on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.



And it is indirectly getting even more of our money than may initially be
obvious. Atos is a sponsor, sorry - partner, for the Olympics &
Paralympics. But they get a huge wodge of money from the DWP for doing
medical assessments on DLA claimants - which these days seem to have
extraordinarily high levels of successful appeals.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

TBH I don't think that's the fault of the people doing the assessments.
It's the fault of the people who wrote the script that they follow, which is
probably not Atos.

tim

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:05:31 +0100, tim.....
wrote:

"polygonum" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
wrote:

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.



And it is indirectly getting even more of our money than may initially be
obvious. Atos is a sponsor, sorry - partner, for the Olympics &
Paralympics. But they get a huge wodge of money from the DWP for doing
medical assessments on DLA claimants - which these days seem to have
extraordinarily high levels of successful appeals.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

TBH I don't think that's the fault of the people doing the assessments.
It's the fault of the people who wrote the script that they follow,
which is probably not Atos.

tim


There may indeed be some truth to what you say. But a fair part of the
blame is being apportioned by people at Lima.

"It is currently against the law to use anyone other than a doctor
approved by the Secretary of State to carry out incapacity benefit
medicals. However, the DWP has agreed to allow ATOS to use 'other
Healthcare Professionals (HCPs) such as nurses' to carry out examinations
'in other benefit areas - provided that they follow appropriate EBM
[Evidence Based Medicine] protocols and are supported by LiMA'. LiMA
(Logic integrated Medical Assessment) is the software developed by Atos
primarily to carry out incapacity for work medicals."

So "the script" is provided by Atos.

--
Rod

In message , polygonum
writes
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:05:31 +0100, tim.....
wrote:

"polygonum" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:56:33 +0100, Mr Pounder
wrote:

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
another
**** up waiting to happen and that the money could have been better
spent on
the NHS?
I live in the north and will not see a penny of where my money has been
spent.



And it is indirectly getting even more of our money than may initially be
obvious. Atos is a sponsor, sorry - partner, for the Olympics &
Paralympics. But they get a huge wodge of money from the DWP for doing
medical assessments on DLA claimants - which these days seem to have
extraordinarily high levels of successful appeals.


-----------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------

TBH I don't think that's the fault of the people doing the
assessments. It's the fault of the people who wrote the script that
they follow, which is probably not Atos.

tim


There may indeed be some truth to what you say. But a fair part of the
blame is being apportioned by people at Lima.

"It is currently against the law to use anyone other than a doctor
approved by the Secretary of State to carry out incapacity benefit
medicals. However, the DWP has agreed to allow ATOS to use 'other
Healthcare Professionals (HCPs) such as nurses' to carry out
examinations 'in other benefit areas - provided that they follow
appropriate EBM [Evidence Based Medicine] protocols and are supported
by LiMA'. LiMA (Logic integrated Medical Assessment) is the software
developed by Atos primarily to carry out incapacity for work medicals."

So "the script" is provided by Atos.

And I'd guess that the contract included some sort of targets for
reducing the number of claimants
--
Chris French

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 00:25:23 +0100, chris French
wrote:



And I'd guess that the contract included some sort of targets for
reducing the number of claimants

I'd suggest that probably it not only had that, but also one for reducing
the claimants to tears.

--
Rod

I've never understood why anybody would be fascinated by the fact that some
people can run faster than others, jump higher, or hit a ball with more
accuracy.

In message , Bert
Coules writes
I've never understood why anybody would be fascinated by the fact that
some people can run faster than others, jump higher, or hit a ball with
more accuracy.


You mean a desire to be the best

watching the best compete to see who is the best of the best?

People need heroes

Why they should choose corporate sponsors who represent the total
opposite of the olympic ideal, why half the roads in london should
close, why the only beer allowed on site isn't even british etc

Thats where I have a problem


--
geoff

"geoff" wrote:

You mean a desire to be the best.

Exactly. I don't understand competitiveness. Never have.

Bert

In message , Bert
Coules writes
"geoff" wrote:

You mean a desire to be the best.

Exactly. I don't understand competitiveness. Never have.

Life is a competition for all but the most vegetative


--
geoff

geoff wrote:

In message , Bert
Coules writes
"geoff" wrote:

You mean a desire to be the best.

Exactly. I don't understand competitiveness. Never have.

Life is a competition for all but the most vegetative



But not wholly a physical competetition...

--
Tim Watts

Bert Coules wrote:
"geoff" wrote:

You mean a desire to be the best.

Exactly. I don't understand competitiveness. Never have.

Bert

where were you when your anscestors were running away from sabre toothed
tigers?

Anyway you have won the competition to be the most graceless nerd :-)

--
To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Anyway you have won the competition
to be the most graceless nerd :-)

Nerd, I accept with a degree of pride. But when exactly have I been
graceless?

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Bert Coules wrote:
"geoff" wrote:

You mean a desire to be the best.

Exactly. I don't understand competitiveness. Never have.

Bert

where were you when your anscestors were running away from sabre toothed
tigers?

Anyway you have won the competition to be the most graceless nerd :-)


Up a tree wondering why his peers had not learnt to climb and ignored him
when he tried to show them?

--
Tim Watts

In message , Bert
Coules wrote
I've never understood why anybody would be fascinated by the fact that
some people can run faster than others, jump higher, or hit a ball with
more accuracy.


But only if they are on performance enhancing drugs.

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

Mr Pounder wrote

Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,

Nope, there are always some with every games.

another **** up waiting to happen

Nope, there are always some with every games.

and that the money could have been better spent on the NHS?

Nope, there are always some with every games with
something else they recon its better to spend the money on.

I live in the north

Not even possible. Exist, possibly...

and will not see a penny of where my money has been spent.

You could just cut to the chase and hang yourself or sumfin.

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
Mr Pounder wrote
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,

Nope, there are always some with every games.
another **** up waiting to happen

Nope, there are always some with every games.
and that the money could have been better spent on the NHS?

Nope, there are always some with every games with something else they
recon its better to spend the money on.
I live in the north

Not even possible. Exist, possibly...

and will not see a penny of where my money has been spent.

You could just cut to the chase and hang yourself or sumfin.

You have little idea of how much I despise and look down on Australia.

Mr Pounder wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
Mr Pounder wrote
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,
Nope, there are always some with every games.
another **** up waiting to happen
Nope, there are always some with every games.
and that the money could have been better spent on the NHS?
Nope, there are always some with every games with something else they
recon its better to spend the money on.
I live in the north
Not even possible. Exist, possibly...

and will not see a penny of where my money has been spent.
You could just cut to the chase and hang yourself or sumfin.

You have little idea of how much I despise and look down on Australia.


Rod is no more an example of australia than Dennis or harry is of the UK.


--
To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
...

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
Mr Pounder wrote
Is it only me who considers the Games to be a huge waste of money,

Nope, there are always some with every games.
another **** up waiting to happen

Nope, there are always some with every games.
and that the money could have been better spent on the NHS?

Nope, there are always some with every games with something else they
recon its better to spend the money on.
I live in the north

Not even possible. Exist, possibly...

and will not see a penny of where my money has been spent.

You could just cut to the chase and hang yourself or sumfin.

You have little idea of how much I despise and look down on Australia.

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

What you might or might not claim to despise and look down on in spades.

You were kicked out for a reason. Still desperately licking your wounds.