As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new thermostat
but the model I need doesn't seem to be available in the country, even
though it is made by Invensys (but at their factory in Italy). So much
for buying a german fridge for quality. Plenty of German sites seem to
sell it though.

Coolectric UK refuse to sell it to me directly because 'Health and
safety rules don't allow it '. What ********.

Anyway, what I need is a Ranco K59/L2622. There are no electronics in
this fridge, just 'good' old-fashioned electro mechanical controls. It
does have an internal resistor that the winter cool button connects to
and this keeps the light on dimly to stop the freezer section thawing
out when the room is below 18 degrees - which it is in my case because I
don't heat the kitchen (south facing in sussex, I rely on heat leakage
from the rest of the house to keep it warmish). For now I have connected
pins 4 and 6 and run it from a multi-segment timer.

I have had a look around the council tips but they won't allow anything
to be taken. Lots of other manufacturers fitted this model of t'stat
over the years.

On 21/06/2012 10:50, Andrew wrote:
Ranco K59/L2622
No reason not to buy it in Germany:

http://www.ersatzteilbestellung.de/e...ANCO-K59-L2622

Single market & all that.

Phil.

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:50:47 +0100, Andrew wrote:
There are no electronics in
this fridge, just 'good' old-fashioned electro mechanical controls.

But they still weren't capable of making it last more than four years
without breaking?

On 21/06/2012 13:19, Jules Richardson wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:50:47 +0100, Andrew wrote:
There are no electronics in
this fridge, just 'good' old-fashioned electro mechanical controls.

But they still weren't capable of making it last more than four years
without breaking?


Indeed. I bought this model because it was A+ and had no fancy
electronics. I was hoping that the energy saving would pay for it after
about 10 years. If I had to rely on someone coming to the house and
charging mega-bucks to fit a 20 euro part, then it becomes very
uneconomical, I might as well have kept the old clunker.

The point is that typing K59/L2622 gives loads of German sites, but sod
all in Britain.

To be fair, the fridge may be German but the tstat is made in Italy. You
can always tell because it says 'made in EU' on the thermostat body,
whereas if it was German it would say 'Made in Germany'.

"Andrew" wrote in message
...
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new thermostat but
the model I need doesn't seem to be available in the country, even though
it is made by Invensys (but at their factory in Italy). So much for buying
a german fridge for quality. Plenty of German sites seem to sell it
though.

Coolectric UK refuse to sell it to me directly because 'Health and safety
rules don't allow it '. What ********.

Anyway, what I need is a Ranco K59/L2622. There are no electronics in this
fridge, just 'good' old-fashioned electro mechanical controls. It does
have an internal resistor that the winter cool button connects to and this
keeps the light on dimly to stop the freezer section thawing out when the
room is below 18 degrees - which it is in my case because I don't heat the
kitchen (south facing in sussex, I rely on heat leakage from the rest of
the house to keep it warmish). For now I have connected pins 4 and 6 and
run it from a multi-segment timer.

I have had a look around the council tips but they won't allow anything to
be taken. Lots of other manufacturers fitted this model of t'stat
over the years.

Most electrical spares shops will sell you a K59 for about 20 quid.

On 21/06/2012 12:15, Huge wrote:
On 2012-06-21, wrote:
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new thermostat
but the model I need doesn't seem to be available in the country, even
though it is made by Invensys (but at their factory in Italy). So much
for buying a german fridge for quality. Plenty of German sites seem to
sell it though.

Coolectric UK refuse to sell it to me directly because 'Health and
safety rules don't allow it '. What ********.

Anyway, what I need is a Ranco K59/L2622. There are no electronics in
this fridge, just 'good' old-fashioned electro mechanical controls. It
does have an internal resistor that the winter cool button connects to
and this keeps the light on dimly to stop the freezer section thawing
out when the room is below 18 degrees - which it is in my case because I
don't heat the kitchen (south facing in sussex, I rely on heat leakage
from the rest of the house to keep it warmish). For now I have connected
pins 4 and 6 and run it from a multi-segment timer.

I have had a look around the council tips but they won't allow anything
to be taken. Lots of other manufacturers fitted this model of t'stat
over the years.

ebay item number 220869977961

£4.70 + P&P. I've bought one from him.



I have seen that listing.

There are several models of the K59 thermostat and the one on that ebay
listing doesn't look like the L2622 variant. There are datasheets on the
Invensys web site that show the variant that I need.

In article ,
Andrew wrote:
On 21/06/2012 13:19, Jules Richardson wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:50:47 +0100, Andrew wrote:
There are no electronics in
this fridge, just 'good' old-fashioned electro mechanical controls.

But they still weren't capable of making it last more than four years
without breaking?


Indeed. I bought this model because it was A+ and had no fancy
electronics. I was hoping that the energy saving would pay for it after
about 10 years. If I had to rely on someone coming to the house and
charging mega-bucks to fit a 20 euro part, then it becomes very
uneconomical, I might as well have kept the old clunker.

The point is that typing K59/L2622 gives loads of German sites, but sod
all in Britain.

To be fair, the fridge may be German but the tstat is made in Italy. You
can always tell because it says 'made in EU' on the thermostat body,
whereas if it was German it would say 'Made in Germany'.

I've seen "Newcastle Brown" on a supermarket shelf labelled "Brewed in the
EU".

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

On 21/06/2012 14:25, Mr Pounder wrote:
wrote in message
...
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new thermostat but
the model I need doesn't seem to be available in the country, even though
it is made by Invensys (but at their factory in Italy). So much for buying
a german fridge for quality. Plenty of German sites seem to sell it
though.

Coolectric UK refuse to sell it to me directly because 'Health and safety
rules don't allow it '. What ********.

Anyway, what I need is a Ranco K59/L2622. There are no electronics in this
fridge, just 'good' old-fashioned electro mechanical controls. It does
have an internal resistor that the winter cool button connects to and this
keeps the light on dimly to stop the freezer section thawing out when the
room is below 18 degrees - which it is in my case because I don't heat the
kitchen (south facing in sussex, I rely on heat leakage from the rest of
the house to keep it warmish). For now I have connected pins 4 and 6 and
run it from a multi-segment timer.

I have had a look around the council tips but they won't allow anything to
be taken. Lots of other manufacturers fitted this model of t'stat
over the years.

Most electrical spares shops will sell you a K59 for about 20 quid.




No they won't. What they will sell you is a VT9 which is a generic K59
replacement. I need the /L2622 variant which has an internal resistor
that allows the bulb to stay on during cold weather and that keeps the
freezer section from thawing out. 'Modern' fridge freezers have an
internal heating panel that uses about 7 watts of power to achieve the
same end. This is (AFAIK) only an issue with Fridge Freezers that have a
single compressor.

Andrew wrote:
On 21/06/2012 14:25, Mr Pounder wrote:
wrote in message
...
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new
thermostat but
the model I need doesn't seem to be available in the country, even
though
it is made by Invensys (but at their factory in Italy). So much for
buying
a german fridge for quality. Plenty of German sites seem to sell it
though.

Coolectric UK refuse to sell it to me directly because 'Health and
safety
rules don't allow it '. What ********.

Anyway, what I need is a Ranco K59/L2622. There are no electronics in
this
fridge, just 'good' old-fashioned electro mechanical controls. It does
have an internal resistor that the winter cool button connects to and
this
keeps the light on dimly to stop the freezer section thawing out when
the
room is below 18 degrees - which it is in my case because I don't
heat the
kitchen (south facing in sussex, I rely on heat leakage from the rest of
the house to keep it warmish). For now I have connected pins 4 and 6 and
run it from a multi-segment timer.

I have had a look around the council tips but they won't allow
anything to
be taken. Lots of other manufacturers fitted this model of t'stat
over the years.

Most electrical spares shops will sell you a K59 for about 20 quid.




No they won't. What they will sell you is a VT9 which is a generic K59
replacement. I need the /L2622 variant which has an internal resistor
that allows the bulb to stay on during cold weather and that keeps the
freezer section from thawing out. 'Modern' fridge freezers have an
internal heating panel that uses about 7 watts of power to achieve the
same end. This is (AFAIK) only an issue with Fridge Freezers that have a
single compressor.

Buy the generic one and fit a resistor since you know all about it? or
Ring CPC as they have a large selection of white goods spares that don't
appear in the catalogue or online.
Buy the correct part from Germany?

"Andrew" wrote in message
...
On 21/06/2012 14:25, Mr Pounder wrote:
wrote in message
...
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new thermostat
but
the model I need doesn't seem to be available in the country, even
though
it is made by Invensys (but at their factory in Italy). So much for
buying
a german fridge for quality. Plenty of German sites seem to sell it
though.

Coolectric UK refuse to sell it to me directly because 'Health and
safety
rules don't allow it '. What ********.

Anyway, what I need is a Ranco K59/L2622. There are no electronics in
this
fridge, just 'good' old-fashioned electro mechanical controls. It does
have an internal resistor that the winter cool button connects to and
this
keeps the light on dimly to stop the freezer section thawing out when
the
room is below 18 degrees - which it is in my case because I don't heat
the
kitchen (south facing in sussex, I rely on heat leakage from the rest of
the house to keep it warmish). For now I have connected pins 4 and 6 and
run it from a multi-segment timer.

I have had a look around the council tips but they won't allow anything
to
be taken. Lots of other manufacturers fitted this model of t'stat
over the years.

Most electrical spares shops will sell you a K59 for about 20 quid.




No they won't. What they will sell you is a VT9 which is a generic K59
replacement. I need the /L2622 variant which has an internal resistor that
allows the bulb to stay on during cold weather and that keeps the freezer
section from thawing out. 'Modern' fridge freezers have an internal
heating panel that uses about 7 watts of power to achieve the same end.
This is (AFAIK) only an issue with Fridge Freezers that have a single
compressor.

Try these people:
http://www.hrponline.co.uk/hrp/FindUs.jsp?code=ma
Or try opening your wallet to a repair man.
If you don't like either of them, try go ****ing yourself.

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:37:04 +0100, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

If you don't like either of them, try go ****ing yourself.

That's always an option, of course.
I fail to see how it will control the fridge temperature, though.

On 21/06/2012 19:37, Mr Pounder wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 21/06/2012 14:25, Mr Pounder wrote:
wrote in message
...
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new thermostat
but
the model I need doesn't seem to be available in the country, even
though
it is made by Invensys (but at their factory in Italy). So much for
buying
a german fridge for quality. Plenty of German sites seem to sell it
though.

Coolectric UK refuse to sell it to me directly because 'Health and
safety
rules don't allow it '. What ********.

Anyway, what I need is a Ranco K59/L2622. There are no electronics in
this
fridge, just 'good' old-fashioned electro mechanical controls. It does
have an internal resistor that the winter cool button connects to and
this
keeps the light on dimly to stop the freezer section thawing out when
the
room is below 18 degrees - which it is in my case because I don't heat
the
kitchen (south facing in sussex, I rely on heat leakage from the rest of
the house to keep it warmish). For now I have connected pins 4 and 6 and
run it from a multi-segment timer.

I have had a look around the council tips but they won't allow anything
to
be taken. Lots of other manufacturers fitted this model of t'stat
over the years.

Most electrical spares shops will sell you a K59 for about 20 quid.




No they won't. What they will sell you is a VT9 which is a generic K59
replacement. I need the /L2622 variant which has an internal resistor that
allows the bulb to stay on during cold weather and that keeps the freezer
section from thawing out. 'Modern' fridge freezers have an internal
heating panel that uses about 7 watts of power to achieve the same end.
This is (AFAIK) only an issue with Fridge Freezers that have a single
compressor.

Try these people:
http://www.hrponline.co.uk/hrp/FindUs.jsp?code=ma
Or try opening your wallet to a repair man.
If you don't like either of them, try go ****ing yourself.




For your education, "d-i-y" stands for DO IT YOURSELF.
If I wanted to pay someone else to do a simple 5 minute job,
I wouldn't bother posting here, would I ?.

On Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:50:47 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new thermostat

but the model I need doesn't seem to be available in the country, even

though it is made by Invensys (but at their factory in Italy). So much

for buying a german fridge for quality. Plenty of German sites seem to

sell it though.



Coolectric UK refuse to sell it to me directly because 'Health and

safety rules don't allow it '. What ********.



Anyway, what I need is a Ranco K59/L2622. There are no electronics in

this fridge, just 'good' old-fashioned electro mechanical controls. It

does have an internal resistor that the winter cool button connects to

and this keeps the light on dimly to stop the freezer section thawing

out when the room is below 18 degrees - which it is in my case because I

don't heat the kitchen (south facing in sussex, I rely on heat leakage

from the rest of the house to keep it warmish). For now I have connected

pins 4 and 6 and run it from a multi-segment timer.



I have had a look around the council tips but they won't allow anything

to be taken. Lots of other manufacturers fitted this model of t'stat

over the years.

hello, have a look at my website www.appliancesparesonline.co.uk i have a large selection of miele liebherr fridge thermostats listed

On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:27:04 -0800 (PST)
wrote:

On Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:50:47 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new
thermostat

but the model I need doesn't seem to be available in the country,
even

though it is made by Invensys (but at their factory in Italy). So
much

for buying a german fridge for quality. Plenty of German sites seem
to

sell it though.



Coolectric UK refuse to sell it to me directly because 'Health and

safety rules don't allow it '. What ********.

It would be interesting if you pressed them to quote the Health and
Safety Regulation that forbids them doing this. If they can't, then you
could try Trading Standards (no idea if it would do any good, but no
harm in trying).
H&S is used for far too many excuses, we should challenge it where we
find it.

Just a thought.

---
Davey.

On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:27:04 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:50:47 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new thermostat

hello, have a look at my website

As he needed the thermostat in Jun 2012 I suspect that one way or
another he has found a solution by now.

On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 17:14:36 +0000
Peter Parry wrote:

On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:27:04 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:50:47 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new
thermostat

hello, have a look at my website

As he needed the thermostat in Jun 2012 I suspect that one way or
another he has found a solution by now.

You're probably correct. Another message that crept out of the crypt?

--
Davey.

On Saturday, December 21, 2013 5:33:47 PM UTC, Davey wrote:
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 17:14:36 +0000
Peter Parry wrote:
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:27:04 -0800 (PST), hotmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:50:47 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:

As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new
thermostat

hello, have a look at my website

As he needed the thermostat in Jun 2012 I suspect that one way or
another he has found a solution by now.

You're probably correct. Another message that crept out of the crypt?

Maybe due to a corrupt date. Message cropped. Oh crapped, it all rhymes.


NT

On 21/12/2013 15:27, wrote:
On Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:50:47 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:

CPC sell 8 generic kits of thermostats - one of these probably will be
fit for purpose.

Description + cross reference table
http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1513770.pdf

Search CPC for "white goods spares"
http://cpc.farnell.com/refrigeration...etResults=true

You could also compare the spec of yout thermostat on the Ranco site
with that of the equivalent on the Danfross site.




--
mailto:news{at}admac(dot}myzen{dot}co{dot}uk

"alan" wrote in message
...
On 21/12/2013 15:27, wrote:
On Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:50:47 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:

CPC sell 8 generic kits of thermostats - one of these probably will be
fit for purpose.

Description + cross reference table
http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1513770.pdf

Search CPC for "white goods spares"
http://cpc.farnell.com/refrigeration...etResults=true

You could also compare the spec of yout thermostat on the Ranco site with
that of the equivalent on the Danfross site.

He could also have telephoned a company called HRP. They used to be trade
only but now deal with end users.

In article ,
alan writes:
On 21/12/2013 15:27, wrote:
On Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:50:47 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:

CPC sell 8 generic kits of thermostats - one of these probably will be
fit for purpose.

Description + cross reference table
http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1513770.pdf

Search CPC for "white goods spares"
http://cpc.farnell.com/refrigeration...etResults=true

Note that most of CPC's white goods spares are not in the catalogue
nor on the web. It's worth phoning them if you can't see what you
want.

You could also compare the spec of yout thermostat on the Ranco site
with that of the equivalent on the Danfross site.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On 21/12/2013 16:48, Davey wrote:
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:27:04 -0800 (PST)
wrote:

On Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:50:47 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new
thermostat

but the model I need doesn't seem to be available in the country,
even

though it is made by Invensys (but at their factory in Italy). So
much

for buying a german fridge for quality. Plenty of German sites seem
to

sell it though.



Coolectric UK refuse to sell it to me directly because 'Health and

safety rules don't allow it '. What ********.

It would be interesting if you pressed them to quote the Health and
Safety Regulation that forbids them doing this. If they can't, then you
could try Trading Standards (no idea if it would do any good, but no
harm in trying).

The company can sell, or not, to whoever they wish. Trading Standards
will have no interest in the matter.



--
Peter Crosland

On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 17:14:36 +0000, Peter Parry
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:27:04 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:50:47 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new thermostat

hello, have a look at my website

As he needed the thermostat in Jun 2012 I suspect that one way or
another he has found a solution by now.

Yes but no doubt grm1961 hopes that other people will buy up his
stock.
--
Dave W

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---

On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:06:02 +0000
Peter Crosland wrote:

On 21/12/2013 16:48, Davey wrote:
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:27:04 -0800 (PST)
wrote:

On Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:50:47 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
As per subject. My 2008 Liebherr fridge freezer needs a new
thermostat

but the model I need doesn't seem to be available in the country,
even

though it is made by Invensys (but at their factory in Italy). So
much

for buying a german fridge for quality. Plenty of German sites
seem to

sell it though.



Coolectric UK refuse to sell it to me directly because 'Health and

safety rules don't allow it '. What ********.

It would be interesting if you pressed them to quote the Health and
Safety Regulation that forbids them doing this. If they can't, then
you could try Trading Standards (no idea if it would do any good,
but no harm in trying).

The company can sell, or not, to whoever they wish. Trading Standards
will have no interest in the matter.




I was hoping that, if they cannot prove their H&S claim, then at least
they might have to justify their refusal.

--
Davey.