XP machine left on permanently to run all the programs that I have that
don't like Vista/Win7 and normally also used to run email, news and
browsing.
Ages ago I installed Rapport for the banking, and haven't yet removed
it. It slows down Ebay access, but otherwise doesn't seem to mess things
up too much.

For the last about 2 weeks, Firefox has had huge memory leakage. It
always leaked, but now it seems to happen worst overnight when I'm not
anywhere near the machine. The machine has 2.5 gigs of ram. Last night
at 1 am the memory use indicated in Task manager was 1.37 G. This
morning at 8 am it was 2.40G.

The event logs showed a lot of information messages for gupdate (Google
Update) not being able to find information in the registry. Firefox
updates seem to be on and working correctly. I have removed Google
updates - there seem to be 2 separate programs gupdate.exe and google
update.exe, but this doesn't seem to have improved things apart from the
event logs being less cluttered.

I'm now having to restart the machine when Firefox is listed as using
1.5gigs in Task Manager.

Has anyone else noticed this change in Firefox?.
..
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Bill

On 28/05/2012 21:25, Bill wrote:
XP machine left on permanently to run all the programs that I have that
don't like Vista/Win7 and normally also used to run email, news and
browsing.
Ages ago I installed Rapport for the banking, and haven't yet removed
it. It slows down Ebay access, but otherwise doesn't seem to mess things
up too much.

For the last about 2 weeks, Firefox has had huge memory leakage. It
always leaked, but now it seems to happen worst overnight when I'm not
anywhere near the machine. The machine has 2.5 gigs of ram. Last night
at 1 am the memory use indicated in Task manager was 1.37 G. This
morning at 8 am it was 2.40G.

The event logs showed a lot of information messages for gupdate (Google
Update) not being able to find information in the registry. Firefox
updates seem to be on and working correctly. I have removed Google
updates - there seem to be 2 separate programs gupdate.exe and google
update.exe, but this doesn't seem to have improved things apart from the
event logs being less cluttered.

I'm now having to restart the machine when Firefox is listed as using
1.5gigs in Task Manager.

Has anyone else noticed this change in Firefox?.
.

I'm using Firefox 12.0 on Vista and it doesn't have any memory leaks.
Maybe you have a leaky add-on? I use the customary ones: Adblock,
NoScript, Flashblock etc without problem.

Bill wrote

XP machine left on permanently to run all the programs that I have that
don't like Vista/Win7 and normally also used to run email, news and
browsing.

The better versions of Win7 like Pro have a virtual XP that does that stuff
fine.

Ages ago I installed Rapport for the banking, and haven't yet removed it.
It slows down Ebay access, but otherwise doesn't seem to mess things up
too much.

For the last about 2 weeks, Firefox has had huge memory leakage. It always
leaked, but now it seems to happen worst overnight when I'm not anywhere
near the machine. The machine has 2.5 gigs of ram. Last night at 1 am the
memory use indicated in Task manager was 1.37 G. This morning at 8 am it
was 2.40G.

The event logs showed a lot of information messages for gupdate (Google
Update) not being able to find information in the registry. Firefox
updates seem to be on and working correctly. I have removed Google
updates - there seem to be 2 separate programs gupdate.exe and google
update.exe, but this doesn't seem to have improved things apart from the
event logs being less cluttered.

I'm now having to restart the machine when Firefox is listed as using
1.5gigs in Task Manager.

Has anyone else noticed this change in Firefox?.

In message , Rod Speed
writes
Bill wrote

XP machine left on permanently to run all the programs that I have
that don't like Vista/Win7 and normally also used to run email, news
and browsing.

The better versions of Win7 like Pro have a virtual XP that does that
stuff fine.

No it doesn't. It does some common things, but for audio, which is what
I mainly do, it only provides a dreadful emulation of a dreadful audio
driver.

I know you can "tunnel" usb devices into it, but that isn't any use when
trying to duplicate someone's audio problem.

On the original question about the Firefox leaks, I've disabled all the
add-ons. I think memory usage is still rising, but I'll leave it
overnight to see what happens. We are now (23.10) at 1.50gigs in the PF
Usage meter and Firefox.exe is 256,500k.
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Bill

Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Bill wrote

XP machine left on permanently to run all the programs that I have that
don't like Vista/Win7 and normally also used to run email, news and
browsing.

The better versions of Win7 like Pro have a virtual XP that does that
stuff fine.

No it doesn't. It does some common things, but for audio, which is what I
mainly do, it only provides a dreadful emulation of a dreadful audio
driver.

I meant that it does that stuff you explicitly mentioned, 'email, news'

I know you can "tunnel" usb devices into it, but that isn't any use when
trying to duplicate someone's audio problem.

En el artículo , Bill
escribió:

For the last about 2 weeks, Firefox has had huge memory leakage. It
always leaked, but now it seems to happen worst overnight when I'm not
anywhere near the machine.

A lot of work has been done since FF7 to try and address memory usage,
but I find it needs to be closed down and restarted occasionally to free
up memory.

I've just looked at a Firefox session which had been open for several
days. 18 tabs open, process manager showed it using ~580K increasing by
4k about every 8 seconds.

Closed down and restarted FF and the same collection of tabs now takes
up ~260K, but the steady upward creep in memory usage still occurs.

FF 12.0 on XP SP3.

Tried Google Chrome but keep going back to FF.

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Use 3.6 its not such a pig and bucket of odd bits as the later ones.

Brian

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Blind user, so no pictures please!
"Bill" wrote in message
...
XP machine left on permanently to run all the programs that I have that
don't like Vista/Win7 and normally also used to run email, news and
browsing.
Ages ago I installed Rapport for the banking, and haven't yet removed it.
It slows down Ebay access, but otherwise doesn't seem to mess things up
too much.

For the last about 2 weeks, Firefox has had huge memory leakage. It always
leaked, but now it seems to happen worst overnight when I'm not anywhere
near the machine. The machine has 2.5 gigs of ram. Last night at 1 am the
memory use indicated in Task manager was 1.37 G. This morning at 8 am it
was 2.40G.

The event logs showed a lot of information messages for gupdate (Google
Update) not being able to find information in the registry. Firefox
updates seem to be on and working correctly. I have removed Google
updates - there seem to be 2 separate programs gupdate.exe and google
update.exe, but this doesn't seem to have improved things apart from the
event logs being less cluttered.

I'm now having to restart the machine when Firefox is listed as using
1.5gigs in Task Manager.

Has anyone else noticed this change in Firefox?.
.
--
Bill

Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Bill
escribió:

For the last about 2 weeks, Firefox has had huge memory leakage. It
always leaked, but now it seems to happen worst overnight when I'm not
anywhere near the machine.

A lot of work has been done since FF7 to try and address memory usage,
but I find it needs to be closed down and restarted occasionally to free
up memory.

FF7? I am up to FireFox 11!



I've just looked at a Firefox session which had been open for several
days. 18 tabs open, process manager showed it using ~580K increasing by
4k about every 8 seconds.

Closed down and restarted FF and the same collection of tabs now takes
up ~260K, but the steady upward creep in memory usage still occurs.

FF 12.0 on XP SP3.

Thats better!

BTW the usual place for leaks is in javascript apps. So close windows
that run them.


Tried Google Chrome but keep going back to FF.



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To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2012 20:25:56 +0100, Bill wrote:

Has anyone else noticed this change in Firefox?.

Yes, it's turned into a steaming pile of ****.
It's always been a bit problematic, but in an easily-managed way,
simply by restarting the bugger every few days. The latest version (or
two) have taken this to new extremes.
I've been running FF with every add-on disabled and only put AdBlock
back in, so far it's been a lot better than before.


Oddly enough I find the later (post 3.6) versions have been relatively
better and faster. It still takes a couple of hours to compile mind you
so its staggeringly bloated ..but the worst of the leaks seem to have
been fixed in its native form at least. But its always possible to write
buggy javascript apps that create new items and never destroy them.

Or presumably java apps, or whatever the plugins run as..

I had an amusing issue with et wifes G5 mac. Firefox and also Flash
plugins stopped several versions ago on PowerPC... Enough to cause many
sites to tell her to 'install the latest version'... but there is a hack
out there on the net where someone has patched the flash plugin to
report itself as the latest version, even when it isn't..



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To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 08:11:50 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Use 3.6 its not such a pig and bucket of odd bits as the later ones.

I tried that sticking with 3.x for as long as I could, but as time
went on I found that quite a few sites didn't like it; bugging me with
messages about my browser being out of date and sometimes refusing to
do what I wanted.

Yup. In my case it was a question of designing websites that have to
work across a lot of browsers..so I keep IE6 on an old XP VM for eh
worst possible, and use firefox for the 'best possible...

..

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To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

Rather than follow up my own post here is an updated summary.

With Firefox I had experienced a massive increase in memory leakage,
with Firefox itself sometimes being reported as increasing by ove 1GB
overnight. XP SP3 on a Lenovo dual core laptop. No changes had been made
to the setup or the sites set up as standard in 16 tabs. Firefox has
always leaked a little, but this suddenly went ridiculous.

I have quite a number of plug-ins, all of which I have left running.

There were initially 4 add-ons enabled

AVG Safe Search 12.0.0.2163
Fast Video Download (with Search Menu) 4.1.6
FireFTP 2.04
SQLite Manager 0.7.7

I disabled all these and left the machine overnight. In the morning
there was just a tiny increase in memory usage - nothing like the
previous 1gig per night.


AVG Safe Search re-enabled
29/5/12 0830 PF Usage 1.50GB FF 257.2MB
29/5/12 1230 PF Usage 1.53GB FF 400.5MB
29/5/12 23.57 PF usage 2.01GB FF 792.5MB

AVG Safe Search disabled Fast Video Download enabled

29/5/12 23.59 PF Usage 1.51GB FF 261.3MB
30/5/12 07.22 PF Usage 1.57GB FF 291.3MB
30/5/12 10.24 PF Usage 2.31GB FF 271.1MB

Plugin-container.exe has increased to 121MB and CPU usage is 100%, with
about 45% used by Plugin Container.exe and 40% used by services.exe.
Running Process Monitor seems to imply that it is Rapport (a banking
security application) that is hogging services.exe.

I will post this, disable Safe Search again and restart the machine
before it explodes. It always ran very cool. Now, after running the
processor at 100% for a few hours, the exhaust is too hot for my
delicate hand.

Sorry this is OT. I started just asking if others had problems with
Firefox 12.0, and, as always, this hole opened up to dig into.

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Bill

In message , Bill
writes
Sorry this is OT. I started just asking if others had problems with
Firefox 12.0, and, as always, this hole opened up to dig into.

Sympathies:-)

I had problems with Rapport and Explorer so dumped Rapport.

I don't let Norton check outgoing mail because of time-out issues.

These problems may have been fixed but I'll stick where I am.

regards


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Tim Lamb