Well I have Virgin Media so what do I need to get the other two?

Something to alter the ip address should be ok for the US shows, but for the
Pirates Bay?

--
Adam

ARWadsworth wrote:

Well I have Virgin Media so what do I need to get the other two?

Something to alter the ip address should be ok for the US shows, but for the
Pirates Bay?

http://www.thepiratebayproxy.co.uk/

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
ARWadsworth wrote:

Well I have Virgin Media so what do I need to get the other two?

Something to alter the ip address should be ok for the US shows, but for
the
Pirates Bay?

http://www.thepiratebayproxy.co.uk/


Alternatively splash out a fiver a month and get yourself an all you can eat
Usenet account.

http://www.newsdemon.com/

.... other usenet providers are available.

Alternatively splash out a fiver a month and get yourself an all you
can eat Usenet account.

http://www.newsdemon.com/

... other usenet providers are available.

While I agree Usenet binaries are a good way to go I see no need for
Adam to spend that money if he only or mainly wants current TV shows.
VM provide free and unlimited access to Usenet - including binary groups
with a retention of 1 to 2 weeks. And if he wants just the occasional
older episode he could always use "premium" service just as a back-up on
a PAYG basis.

And while torrents are probably the easiest way to get such things, I
don't doubt that Adam could cope with eg Binsearch and an NZB grabber
(eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrabIt)
--
Robin
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On 20/05/2012 11:31, Robin wrote:
Alternatively splash out a fiver a month and get yourself an all you
can eat Usenet account.

http://www.newsdemon.com/

... other usenet providers are available.

While I agree Usenet binaries are a good way to go I see no need for
Adam to spend that money if he only or mainly wants current TV shows.
VM provide free and unlimited access to Usenet - including binary groups
with a retention of 1 to 2 weeks. And if he wants just the occasional
older episode he could always use "premium" service just as a back-up on
a PAYG basis.

And while torrents are probably the easiest way to get such things, I
don't doubt that Adam could cope with eg Binsearch and an NZB grabber
(eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrabIt)

Is there any *benefit* of usenet binaries over bittorrents, though?

"Lobster" wrote in message
...
On 20/05/2012 11:31, Robin wrote:
Alternatively splash out a fiver a month and get yourself an all you
can eat Usenet account.

http://www.newsdemon.com/

... other usenet providers are available.

While I agree Usenet binaries are a good way to go I see no need for
Adam to spend that money if he only or mainly wants current TV shows.
VM provide free and unlimited access to Usenet - including binary groups
with a retention of 1 to 2 weeks. And if he wants just the occasional
older episode he could always use "premium" service just as a back-up on
a PAYG basis.

And while torrents are probably the easiest way to get such things, I
don't doubt that Adam could cope with eg Binsearch and an NZB grabber
(eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrabIt)

Is there any *benefit* of usenet binaries over bittorrents, though?


1) - speed - you download at your full line rate.
2) - you are not sharing files - only downloading - so are not (legally)
infringing copyright - the usenet provider is the infringer.
3) - most usenet providers have provision for a secure connection - what you
download is between you and the provider. Your isp and any other snoopers
remain none the wiser.
4) - pretty much anything is available on bittorrent is available via
usenet - probably more.

apart from that, no.

In article , Lobster
writes
On 20/05/2012 11:31, Robin wrote:
Alternatively splash out a fiver a month and get yourself an all you
can eat Usenet account.

http://www.newsdemon.com/

... other usenet providers are available.

While I agree Usenet binaries are a good way to go I see no need for
Adam to spend that money if he only or mainly wants current TV shows.
VM provide free and unlimited access to Usenet - including binary groups
with a retention of 1 to 2 weeks. And if he wants just the occasional
older episode he could always use "premium" service just as a back-up on
a PAYG basis.

And while torrents are probably the easiest way to get such things, I
don't doubt that Adam could cope with eg Binsearch and an NZB grabber
(eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrabIt)

Is there any *benefit* of usenet binaries over bittorrents, though?

1. High speed, multi-threaded d/l
2. Longer term availability (with a premium provider)
3. Absence of casual IP based tracking by cowboy lawyers
--
fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

In message , Andy
Bartlett writes

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
ARWadsworth wrote:

Well I have Virgin Media so what do I need to get the other two?

Something to alter the ip address should be ok for the US shows, but for
the
Pirates Bay?

http://www.thepiratebayproxy.co.uk/


Alternatively splash out a fiver a month and get yourself an all you can eat
Usenet account.

http://www.newsdemon.com/

... other usenet providers are available.


Virgin has its own usenet


--
geoff

On 20/05/2012 09:50, Andy Burns wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote:

Well I have Virgin Media so what do I need to get the other two?

Something to alter the ip address should be ok for the US shows, but
for the
Pirates Bay?

http://www.thepiratebayproxy.co.uk/


Don't know how long that will last? Maybe a more long-term solution is
to access piratebay via a 'generic' anonymous proxy server like:
http://www.hidemyass.com/

It's so trivially easy to bypass the ban that it makes a laughing stock
of those who make up these laws. I imagine that the extra publicity
generated by it - with the words "pirate bay" getting into the news
headlines - could well have increased their UK user base (eg sounds like
Adam's never used it before - "Pirates Bay" )

David

On Sun, 20 May 2012 10:09:53 +0100, Lobster wrote:

On 20/05/2012 09:50, Andy Burns wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote:

Well I have Virgin Media so what do I need to get the other two?

Something to alter the ip address should be ok for the US shows, but
for the
Pirates Bay?

http://www.thepiratebayproxy.co.uk/


Don't know how long that will last? Maybe a more long-term solution is
to access piratebay via a 'generic' anonymous proxy server like:
http://www.hidemyass.com/

It's so trivially easy to bypass the ban that it makes a laughing stock
of those who make up these laws.

Not only that, it has exposed a massive number of people to the concepts
of VPNs, proxies, and anonymising networks.

When 1% of the population were using such things, it was easy for the
security services to (a) trawl users of such things looking for the
*really* nasty guys, and (b) persuade a jury that using such things
implied evil intent.

Now, the use of such tools has dramatically risen it's made it a lot
harder to spot real wrongdoers, and the public are less likely to accept
a line that someone was up to no good because they were using them.

In message , Andy
Burns writes
ARWadsworth wrote:

Well I have Virgin Media so what do I need to get the other two?

Something to alter the ip address should be ok for the US shows, but for the
Pirates Bay?

http://www.thepiratebayproxy.co.uk/


Or just use another torrent search engine.

eg.

http://isohunt.com/
--
Chris French

On 20/05/2012 17:50, chris French wrote:
In message , Andy
Burns writes
ARWadsworth wrote:

Well I have Virgin Media so what do I need to get the other two?

Something to alter the ip address should be ok for the US shows, but
for the
Pirates Bay?

http://www.thepiratebayproxy.co.uk/


Or just use another torrent search engine.

eg.

http://isohunt.com/

for TV shows eztv.it is pretty good I am told...

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John.

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Well I saw the site through the proxy on startpage, but of course you need
to work out how to route any links. the fact is though that stuff that is on
Piratebay is also on many sites not affected by the block that isps here
have been forced to put in, against their will I understand.
Brian

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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...
Well I have Virgin Media so what do I need to get the other two?

Something to alter the ip address should be ok for the US shows, but for
the Pirates Bay?

--
Adam

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...
Well I have Virgin Media so what do I need to get the other two?

Something to alter the ip address should be ok for the US shows, but for
the Pirates Bay?

Firefox as an address spoofing facility - look up "The Daily Show" and how
to get it in the UK and you'll find the way to set it up.

Paul DS

On 20/05/2012 09:44, ARWadsworth wrote:

Well I have Virgin Media so what do I need to get the other two?

Something to alter the ip address should be ok for the US shows, but for the
Pirates Bay?

IIUC, most of the "blocking" is going on at the DNS level[1] - i.e. they
have altered the content of their name servers such that when you try
and resolve one of the censored domain names, it returns the address of
a local server which the ISP has setup to return a page saying (in
effect) "bog off".

The simple way to fix this type of misdirection is to change your name
servers. Two reliable options would be OpenDNS on 208.67.222.222, and
208.67.220.220 or Google's on 8.8.8.8, and 8.8.4.4

You can either do this in your router, in which case all the machines on
your network will automatically use the new servers, or you can do it on
a machine by machine basis.

To change servers on XP: Control Panel-Network Connections
Right click on the Local Area Connection that is in use and select
"Properties"
In the list find and select "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" and click
properties.
Click the "Use the following DNS server addresses" radio button, and
then enter one of those pairs of addresses above. OK your way back out.


[1] Blocking at the IP level is problematical since the hosts can so
easily shift the site around different physical addresses, coupled with
the fact you frequently end up censoring completely unrelated sites that
just happen to be served from the same machine - and that tends to get
their owners upset.




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Cheers,

John.

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IIUC, most of the "blocking" is going on at the DNS level[1] - i.e.
they have altered the content of their name servers such that when
you try and resolve one of the censored domain names, it returns the
address of a local server which the ISP has setup to return a page
saying (in effect) "bog off".

FWIW (bearing in mind you are not (usually) a VM user) I don't think it
is DNS. Two reasons: (i) switching to another DNS does not allow HTML
access; and (ii) tracerts to TPB are not blocked or diverted whatever
DNS is used.

--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

On 21/05/2012 13:35, Robin wrote:
IIUC, most of the "blocking" is going on at the DNS level[1] - i.e.
they have altered the content of their name servers such that when
you try and resolve one of the censored domain names, it returns the
address of a local server which the ISP has setup to return a page
saying (in effect) "bog off".

FWIW (bearing in mind you are not (usually) a VM user) I don't think it
is DNS. Two reasons: (i) switching to another DNS does not allow HTML
access; and (ii) tracerts to TPB are not blocked or diverted whatever
DNS is used.

You may well be right - I don't have a way of testing on VM, however I
was going from reports of what BT etc seem to have done.

A quick check would be for VM users to see if they can reach the site
using 194.71.107.15 in their web browser rather than the normal URL
(that IP resolving to the site as of the time of writing at least).

Another obvious workaround is to simply do a search on google for a
site's URL with the word "cache:" appended to the front - getting a copy
of the most recent cached copy from google's own cache rather than
direct from the site (although note this is not as well suited to access
to database driven "dynamic" sites like TPB)



--
Cheers,

John.

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A quick check would be for VM users to see if they can reach the site
using 194.71.107.15 in their web browser rather than the normal URL
(that IP resolving to the site as of the time of writing at least).


Indeed (and I can confirm it don't work). Nor (contrary to what some
claimed) does the use of an https connection.

But if Adam insists on using TPB (even when his CCTV and neighbours seem
to offer so much entertainment) then I am given to understand that at
present there are still plenty of proxies - eg
https://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk


--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

On 21/05/2012 16:46, Robin wrote:
A quick check would be for VM users to see if they can reach the site
using 194.71.107.15 in their web browser rather than the normal URL
(that IP resolving to the site as of the time of writing at least).


Indeed (and I can confirm it don't work). Nor (contrary to what some
claimed) does the use of an https connection.

If they have layered their block on top of cleanfeed, then they
internally route any http requests that match a blacklist of IP
addresses through the IWF filtering proxy server. Which in theory can
match on a page by page basis. Even https connections can terminate at
the proxy and allow it to see the content.

Out of interest, I wonder what happens if one creates your own hosts
file entry for a target site, but with a different name, say:

mypbay 194.71.107.15

http://mypbay/browse

That ought not match on a full URL comparison...

But if Adam insists on using TPB (even when his CCTV and neighbours seem
to offer so much entertainment) then I am given to understand that at
present there are still plenty of proxies - eg
https://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk


--
Cheers,

John.

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Robin wrote:
A quick check would be for VM users to see if they can reach the
site using 194.71.107.15 in their web browser rather than the
normal URL (that IP resolving to the site as of the time of writing
at least).

Indeed (and I can confirm it don't work). Nor (contrary to what some
claimed) does the use of an https connection.

But if Adam insists on using TPB (even when his CCTV and neighbours
seem to offer so much entertainment) then I am given to understand
that at present there are still plenty of proxies - eg
https://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk

The last thing I downloaded from TPB was a film made in 1960.

--
Adam