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Plasterboard problem
Hi all,
I bought a house last December where there is plasterboard internally on the external walls. (the internal walls have plastering on them). The house was built 25 years ago and whoever fitted the plasterboards did not fix the edges very well or put in scrim tape. There is cracks in the skim where the plasterboard sheet edges meet up. This means that when you place your hand on either side of the skin crack lines, the plasterboard can be made to flex a bit. I got talking to a surveyor and he has suggested that rather than take all the plasterboard off and installing new plasterboard, fitting scrim tape and re-skimming, I should drill a series of holes along the crack line, inject expanding foam and then fill the holes and the crackline in with polyfiller. He claims that this will stabilise the two plasterboard sheets and prevent reappearance of the crack lines. What do the panel think? Stephen. |
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writes Hi all, I got talking to a surveyor and he has suggested that rather than take all the plasterboard off and installing new plasterboard, fitting scrim tape and re-skimming, I should drill a series of holes along the crack line, inject expanding foam and then fill the holes and the crackline in with polyfiller. He claims that this will stabilise the two plasterboard sheets and prevent reappearance of the crack lines. What do the panel think? Stephen. I'm sure that others will come along who have had experience of this, but my thoughts would be to find a low expansion foam and don't use too much of it. There have been a few horror stories of expanding foam continuing to expand and causing damage, It could be embarrassing if it pushed your board off the wall. I recall a photo of a canoe something along the lines of they used it to fill a buoyancy void and it split it apart. If no one says it is a really stupid idea though, I will put it on my list of useful work around's. -- Bill |
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wrote I recall a photo of a canoe something along the lines of they used it to fill a buoyancy void and it split it apart. http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/humour.html#foam -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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"Alan" wrote in message ... In message , Bill wrote I recall a photo of a canoe something along the lines of they used it to fill a buoyancy void and it split it apart. http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/humour.html#foam Brilliant, just brilliant |
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 01:07:45 +0100, brass monkey wrote:
"Alan" wrote in message ... In message , Bill wrote I recall a photo of a canoe something along the lines of they used it to fill a buoyancy void and it split it apart. http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/humour.html#foam Brilliant, just brilliant ahh the old ones are always the best (until they go senile) Jim K |
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On 16/04/2012 08:05, Jim K wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 01:07:45 +0100, brass monkey wrote: "Alan" wrote in message ... In message , Bill wrote I recall a photo of a canoe something along the lines of they used it to fill a buoyancy void and it split it apart. http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/humour.html#foam Brilliant, just brilliant ahh the old ones are always the best (until they go senile) Jim K I recall a class mate (he may have been doing A-Level CDT I think) making a sit-on canoe at school - probably around 1994-1996 time. He'd stuck blocks of celotex (or similar) foam together, carved it into a canoe shape, with a recess on top to sit in. His plan was to use 2-part expanding foam to cast a precise moulding of his backside. I can't recall whether he'd coated it in fibreglass at this point. To get the moulding, I recall him using something like a bin liner or black sheeting to sit on, and then got someone to pour in this 2-part mix under the sheet into the recess. I recall the tears welling up in his eyes, and his moans as he then realised that the chemical reaction was very exothermic. D |
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On 16/04/12 00:02, Bill wrote:
In message , Stephen H writes Hi all, I got talking to a surveyor and he has suggested that rather than take all the plasterboard off and installing new plasterboard, fitting scrim tape and re-skimming, I should drill a series of holes along the crack line, inject expanding foam and then fill the holes and the crackline in with polyfiller. He claims that this will stabilise the two plasterboard sheets and prevent reappearance of the crack lines. What do the panel think? Stephen. I'm sure that others will come along who have had experience of this, but my thoughts would be to find a low expansion foam and don't use too much of it. There have been a few horror stories of expanding foam continuing to expand and causing damage, It could be embarrassing if it pushed your board off the wall. I recall a photo of a canoe something along the lines of they used it to fill a buoyancy void and it split it apart. If no one says it is a really stupid idea though, I will put it on my list of useful work around's. http://www.everbuild.co.uk/products/...IP%20DRY%20FIX pink dryfix and gun, it does expand a bit, so use a little of it or it'll push the boards out, the yellow foam expands much too much. I use it for all sorts of bodge jobs! http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...bnsDY-RST4YT4w [g] |
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On 15/04/2012 23:13, Stephen H wrote:
Hi all, I bought a house last December where there is plasterboard internally on the external walls. (the internal walls have plastering on them). The house was built 25 years ago and whoever fitted the plasterboards did not fix the edges very well or put in scrim tape. There is cracks in the skim where the plasterboard sheet edges meet up. This means that when you place your hand on either side of the skin crack lines, the plasterboard can be made to flex a bit. I got talking to a surveyor and he has suggested that rather than take all the plasterboard off and installing new plasterboard, fitting scrim tape and re-skimming, I should drill a series of holes along the crack line, inject expanding foam and then fill the holes and the crackline in with polyfiller. He claims that this will stabilise the two plasterboard sheets and prevent reappearance of the crack lines. What do the panel think? Stephen. I recently injected about 10 cans of expanding foam through plasterboard into a flimsy partitiion wall to make it more sturdy, and stop the microbore pipes inside it rattling around. It seems to have worked. I used standard expanding foam, but I only injected one can at a time, and waited at least an hour for each injection to stop expanding before the next injection. IIRC, a 750ml can of Screwfix No-Nonsense foam will expand to about 35 litres before setting. |
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On Apr 16, 4:46*am, RustyCrampon wrote:
On 15/04/2012 23:13, Stephen H wrote: Hi all, I bought a house last December where there is plasterboard internally on the external walls. (the internal walls have plastering on them). The house was built 25 years ago and whoever fitted the plasterboards did not fix the edges very well or put in scrim tape. There is cracks in the skim where the plasterboard sheet edges meet up. This means that when you place your hand on either side of the skin crack lines, the plasterboard can be made to flex a bit. I got talking to a surveyor and he has suggested that rather than take all the plasterboard off and installing new plasterboard, fitting scrim tape and re-skimming, I should drill a series of holes along the crack line, inject expanding foam and then fill the holes and the crackline in with polyfiller. He claims that this will stabilise the two plasterboard sheets and prevent reappearance of the crack lines. What do the panel think? Stephen. I recently injected about 10 cans of expanding foam through plasterboard into a flimsy partitiion wall to make it more sturdy, and stop the microbore pipes inside it rattling around. It seems to have worked. I used standard expanding foam, but I only injected one can at a time, and waited at least an hour for each injection to stop expanding before the next injection. IIRC, a 750ml can of Screwfix No-Nonsense foam will expand to about 35 litres before setting.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You need to be a bit careful. The aerosol can stuff relies on atmospheric moisture to make it go off. You can squirt a bit of water in the holes but not too much. |
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On Apr 16, 8:04*am, harry wrote:
On Apr 16, 4:46*am, RustyCrampon wrote: On 15/04/2012 23:13, Stephen H wrote: Hi all, I bought a house last December where there is plasterboard internally on the external walls. (the internal walls have plastering on them). The house was built 25 years ago and whoever fitted the plasterboards did not fix the edges very well or put in scrim tape. There is cracks in the skim where the plasterboard sheet edges meet up. This means that when you place your hand on either side of the skin crack lines, the plasterboard can be made to flex a bit. I got talking to a surveyor and he has suggested that rather than take all the plasterboard off and installing new plasterboard, fitting scrim tape and re-skimming, I should drill a series of holes along the crack line, inject expanding foam and then fill the holes and the crackline in with polyfiller. He claims that this will stabilise the two plasterboard sheets and prevent reappearance of the crack lines. What do the panel think? Stephen. I recently injected about 10 cans of expanding foam through plasterboard into a flimsy partitiion wall to make it more sturdy, and stop the microbore pipes inside it rattling around. It seems to have worked. I used standard expanding foam, but I only injected one can at a time, and waited at least an hour for each injection to stop expanding before the next injection. IIRC, a 750ml can of Screwfix No-Nonsense foam will expand to about 35 litres before setting.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You need to be a bit careful. The aerosol can stuff relies on atmospheric moisture to make it go off. *You can squirt a bit of water in the holes but not too much.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Indeed. Large volumes of foam squirted at once tend to result in horribly sticky voids within, that don't go off. Cheers Richard |
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On 15/04/2012 23:13, Stephen H wrote:
Hi all, I bought a house last December where there is plasterboard internally on the external walls. (the internal walls have plastering on them). The house was built 25 years ago and whoever fitted the plasterboards did not fix the edges very well or put in scrim tape. There is cracks in the skim where the plasterboard sheet edges meet up. This means that when you place your hand on either side of the skin crack lines, the plasterboard can be made to flex a bit. I got talking to a surveyor and he has suggested that rather than take all the plasterboard off and installing new plasterboard, fitting scrim tape and re-skimming, I should drill a series of holes along the crack line, inject expanding foam and then fill the holes and the crackline in with polyfiller. He claims that this will stabilise the two plasterboard sheets and prevent reappearance of the crack lines. What do the panel think? I think it could or would work brilliantly, but only if you got exactly the right amount of foam in there - would be hard to estimate how much you need and there would be a high probability of ending up with bulging walls instead. If you go ahead, keep the injected amounts really small and give it plenty of time to cure; eg maybe drill a series of holes three feet(?) apart along the cracks, inject those, and then later on repeat the process with a second set of holes drilled in the gaps between the first set. David |
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"Stephen H" wrote in message news Hi all, I bought a house last December where there is plasterboard internally on the external walls. (the internal walls have plastering on them). The house was built 25 years ago and whoever fitted the plasterboards did not fix the edges very well or put in scrim tape. There is cracks in the skim where the plasterboard sheet edges meet up. This means that when you place your hand on either side of the skin crack lines, the plasterboard can be made to flex a bit. I got talking to a surveyor and he has suggested that rather than take all the plasterboard off and installing new plasterboard, fitting scrim tape and re-skimming, I should drill a series of holes along the crack line, inject expanding foam and then fill the holes and the crackline in with polyfiller. He claims that this will stabilise the two plasterboard sheets and prevent reappearance of the crack lines. What do the panel think? Stephen. This anygood for you ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_NnJpaqsYI Jim G |
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