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OT Liquid hydrocarbon fuel from CO2 and sunlight.
http://www.alternative-energy-news.i...-solar-energy/
Maybe this is the way (or similar) to deal with CO2? |
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OT Liquid hydrocarbon fuel from CO2 and sunlight.
"harry" wrote in message ... http://www.alternative-energy-news.i...-solar-energy/ Maybe this is the way (or similar) to deal with CO2? But it needs heat and it all cools down at night, hardly an industrial process. Now just imagine what you could do using a nuclear reactor to drive it. |
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OT Liquid hydrocarbon fuel from CO2 and sunlight.
The whole problem is the efficiency. Its really no good trying to come up
with ideas if they need lots of energy to create them. The burning of whatever to create that energy kind of negates the point. I have no idea what would be the effect of just doing it during the day! Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "harry" wrote in message ... http://www.alternative-energy-news.i...-solar-energy/ Maybe this is the way (or similar) to deal with CO2? |
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OT Liquid hydrocarbon fuel from CO2 and sunlight.
On 12/04/2012 08:36, harry wrote:
http://www.alternative-energy-news.i...-solar-energy/ Maybe this is the way (or similar) to deal with CO2? Algal diesel can do that and produce something that can be used in existing vehicles. It will also digest human and animal waste and produce fertilizer as a by-product. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel Colin Bignell |
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OT Liquid hydrocarbon fuel from CO2 and sunlight.
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:36:59 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote:
http://www.alternative-energy-news.i...-solar-energy/ Maybe this is the way (or similar) to deal with CO2? They are probably trying to find a patentable alternative to the Sabatier process. Build it on the Saharan coast and use solar power to supply the energy and the sea for the hydrogen The big problem is capturing the CO2 from the air. Rick... (The other Rick) |
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OT Liquid hydrocarbon fuel from CO2 and sunlight.
On 12/04/2012 12:05, Rick... (The other Rick) wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:36:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote: http://www.alternative-energy-news.i...-solar-energy/ Maybe this is the way (or similar) to deal with CO2? They are probably trying to find a patentable alternative to the Sabatier process. Build it on the Saharan coast and use solar power to supply the energy and the sea for the hydrogen The big problem is capturing the CO2 from the air. Rick... (The other Rick) I understand there's more of it every day. Pete |
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OT Liquid hydrocarbon fuel from CO2 and sunlight.
Rick... (The other Rick) wrote:
The big problem is capturing the CO2 from the air. Rick... (The other Rick) I'd be astonished if any energy captured could outweigh the huge cost of extracting CO2 from the air in any significant quantities. Be a lot simpler to make wood fired cars. ;-) Tim |
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OT Liquid hydrocarbon fuel from CO2 and sunlight.
On 12/04/2012 12:46, Tim Downie wrote:
Rick... (The other Rick) wrote: The big problem is capturing the CO2 from the air. Rick... (The other Rick) I'd be astonished if any energy captured could outweigh the huge cost of extracting CO2 from the air in any significant quantities. Be a lot simpler to make wood fired cars. ;-) Tim Not sure about cars, but wood fired lorries were not uncommon during WW2 |
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OT Liquid hydrocarbon fuel from CO2 and sunlight.
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:25:24 +0100, newshound
wrote: On 12/04/2012 12:46, Tim Downie wrote: Rick... (The other Rick) wrote: The big problem is capturing the CO2 from the air. Rick... (The other Rick) I'd be astonished if any energy captured could outweigh the huge cost of extracting CO2 from the air in any significant quantities. Be a lot simpler to make wood fired cars. ;-) Tim Not sure about cars, but wood fired lorries were not uncommon during WW2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN5GEBbaf7Y -- http://www.voucherfreebies.co.uk |
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OT Liquid hydrocarbon fuel from CO2 and sunlight.
newshound wrote:
On 12/04/2012 12:46, Tim Downie wrote: Rick... (The other Rick) wrote: The big problem is capturing the CO2 from the air. Rick... (The other Rick) I'd be astonished if any energy captured could outweigh the huge cost of extracting CO2 from the air in any significant quantities. Be a lot simpler to make wood fired cars. ;-) Tim Not sure about cars, but wood fired lorries were not uncommon during WW2 steam cars powered by wood are not impossible, but are worse range wise than electric battery cars. steam engines cant go far wothout water,.. -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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OT Liquid hydrocarbon fuel from CO2 and sunlight.
Tim Downie wrote:
Rick... (The other Rick) wrote: The big problem is capturing the CO2 from the air. Rick... (The other Rick) I'd be astonished if any energy captured could outweigh the huge cost of extracting CO2 from the air in any significant quantities. Be a lot simpler to make wood fired cars. ;-) IF you go for a rational approach to energy and say build 60GW-100GW of nuclear stations operating on average at about 50GW-90GW and you have a process by which the already paid for power stations can spend offpeak time making aluminium, desalinating seawater or synthesising 'fossil' fuel at even poor efficiencies, you really have got a winner. In summer when demand is low you stockpile excess power as storable hydrocarbon fuel. I see this as the only approach so far that comes anywhere near meeting a need that modern cities and towns simply cannot do without - namely the mechanised transport of material into them by off grid vehicles. And flying. There is no way to do an aeroplane without 'fossil' fuel, that has any hope of being more than a curiosity. If we are not to go back to rickshaws we will need at some point to find a cheap way to make hydrocarbons: and windmills and solar panels are not cheap. Tim -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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OT Liquid hydrocarbon fuel from CO2 and sunlight.
Rick... (The other Rick) wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:36:59 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: http://www.alternative-energy-news.i...-solar-energy/ Maybe this is the way (or similar) to deal with CO2? They are probably trying to find a patentable alternative to the Sabatier process. Build it on the Saharan coast and use solar power to supply the energy and the sea for the hydrogen The big problem is capturing the CO2 from the air. No problem: liquefy it and distil the mix. All it takes is..lots of energy!! Rick... (The other Rick) -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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