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On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:38:05 +0000, Andrew Mawson wrote:

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Sadly the RS232 is not an option due to oddities in the Fanuc 6
firmware the relevant way is only the tape reader / punch which are a
proprietary non standard parallel implementation


Can you feed the outputs into an I/O board on a PC and pretend to be a
paper tape?


Yes Denis that is one option. I've been looking at the Arduino Max2560
which gives me ample ttl level outputs and also the benefit of USB input
- but it's yet another project to knuckle down to and learn!


I was just going to suggest an Arduino...



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In article , Huge
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They took all my stuff. (Several Beebs, a PDP-11/23+, a Sinclair ZX80,
couple of early Sun SPARCstations, couple of Xerox 820s and a VT100, along
with software and manuals for all of it.)


Oh, ok. This was admittedly several years ago and they did say at the
time they didn't have space (though it's hardly big!). I'll try again.

Chap from Canada emailed me a while ago to ask if I knew anyone who
would take his SuperBrain, but it would cost more to ship to the UK than
it was worth.

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On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:53:09 -0800, mark wrote:
It's also a DNC/Drip feeding issue of CAM generated code larger than
the memory of the machine. The 6M cannot drip feed from the RS232 only
from the tape reader, so it's either produce it on tape or find a BTR
(behind taper reader) unit for less than the 500 squid people are
asking!

AWEM


The OP was for downloading parameters.


Feature-creep :-)


More for simplification really as the majority of readers of the group will
not be into the intricacies of ancient CNC machines G

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In article , Huge
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They took all my stuff. (Several Beebs, a PDP-11/23+, a Sinclair ZX80,
couple of early Sun SPARCstations, couple of Xerox 820s and a VT100,
along with software and manuals for all of it.)


Oh, ok. This was admittedly several years ago and they did say at the
time they didn't have space (though it's hardly big!). I'll try again.


Did you try contacting Bletchley Park, or the National Museum of
Computing? (http://www.tnmoc.org)

It's NMoC on the same site that you really want (and I remember meeting
Huge when he dropped all his stuff off). The Park as a whole do own a
handful of machines, but I don't know how good they are at passing on
offers of stuff to the NMoC side (relations in the past have at times
been rather political and strained :-)

Chap from Canada emailed me a while ago to ask if I knew anyone who
would take his SuperBrain, but it would cost more to ship to the UK than
it was worth.


Hmm, I'm in northern Minnesota these days, not too far from the Canadian
border; I might be interested if he still has it, as shipping to me might
be an option depending on where he is (sadly it's the road portions of
shipping that are the expensive bit, so it may well be almost as
expensive to get it to me as it would be all the way to the UK).

cheers

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That was a really good day - getting a demo of Colossus, seeing the bombe
and having a wander round afterwards. Make little cold feet stamp up and
down my spine - this is *Station X*!! Alan Turing worked *here*!!!!


Signed up as a member at BP last year but not yet managed to make it
down there. These photos of the Bombe are fantastic:

http://www.jharper.demon.co.uk/bombe2.htm

You may or may not be aware that 2012 is Turing's centenary year:

http://www.mathcomp.leeds.ac.uk/turing2012/

I'll be attending this lecture next week:

http://www.jasper.org.uk/TuringLecture.pdf

Just finished reading Robert Harris's 'Enigma' in which Turing is only a
peripheral figure. Not a very good book but it goes give one quite a
vivid mental image of what it must have been like working at Bletchley
Park.

M.

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Did you try contacting Bletchley Park, or the National Museum of
Computing? (
http://www.tnmoc.org)

I can't remember. I actually went through someone else - Dave Moore,
who ran the Stairway to Hell BBC software website.

It's NMoC on the same site that you really want


ta.

Hmm, I'm in northern Minnesota these days, not too far from the Canadian
border; I might be interested if he still has it


I'll dig out the email tonight and ask him if he still has it, if so,
can pass on your email address if you wish and you can sort it out
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:38:04 +0000, Huge wrote:
It's NMoC on the same site that you really want (and I remember meeting
Huge when he dropped all his stuff off


Blimey, was dat yoo?


Indeed

That was a really good day - getting a demo of Colossus, seeing the
bombe and having a wander round afterwards. Make little cold feet stamp
up and down my spine - this is *Station X*!! Alan Turing worked
*here*!!!!


Yeah, it's a good place - I do rather miss it. The politics would get
more than a little frustrating, though! I think there were only ever 4
Colossi in H Block (perhaps it was 6) - but there were something like 10
in F Block (which stood where the grassy area below 'H' is. Must have
been a very interesting place in its heyday.

cheers

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On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:55:48 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

In article , Huge
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That was a really good day - getting a demo of Colossus, seeing the
bombe and having a wander round afterwards. Make little cold feet stamp
up and down my spine - this is *Station X*!! Alan Turing worked
*here*!!!!


Yes....I've been there many times and it still gets to me.

Signed up as a member at BP last year but not yet managed to make it
down there.


Been a member for 15 years now.

Just finished reading Robert Harris's 'Enigma' in which Turing is only a
peripheral figure. Not a very good book but it goes give one quite a
vivid mental image of what it must have been like working at Bletchley
Park.


try reading 'Cryptonomicon'; Turing even turns up there for a bit, and
it's a great book although not much BP in it.


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try reading 'Cryptonomicon'; Turing even turns up there for a bit, and
it's a great book although not much BP in it.


Thanks for the recommend - looking on Amazon now.

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in 1106786 20120215 215200 Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:55:48 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

In article , Huge
writes

That was a really good day - getting a demo of Colossus, seeing the
bombe and having a wander round afterwards. Make little cold feet stamp
up and down my spine - this is *Station X*!! Alan Turing worked
*here*!!!!


Yes....I've been there many times and it still gets to me.

Signed up as a member at BP last year but not yet managed to make it
down there.


Been a member for 15 years now.

Just finished reading Robert Harris's 'Enigma' in which Turing is only a
peripheral figure. Not a very good book but it goes give one quite a
vivid mental image of what it must have been like working at Bletchley
Park.


try reading 'Cryptonomicon'; Turing even turns up there for a bit, and
it's a great book although not much BP in it.


Amazon.uk only offers the German edition for the Kindle, but I suppose
I could use the practice!


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On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:20:46 -0000, "Andrew Mawson"
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Backing up parameters in a Fanuc 6M control used in a 1985 Fanuc Tape Cut
Model M wire EDM machine that happens to be sitting in my garage and being
polished!! Parameters are held in Bubble Memory (remember that?) which I
need to remove.


Wouldn't it be easier to donate the Fanuc to a museum, and use a PC
with EMC2 ?

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Wouldn't get much edm wire cutting done that way!


I meant dump the controller for something a bit more modern.


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On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:00:26 +0000, Bob Martin wrote:

in 1106786 20120215 215200 Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:55:48 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

In article , Huge
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That was a really good day - getting a demo of Colossus, seeing the
bombe and having a wander round afterwards. Make little cold feet
stamp up and down my spine - this is *Station X*!! Alan Turing worked
*here*!!!!


Yes....I've been there many times and it still gets to me.

Signed up as a member at BP last year but not yet managed to make it
down there.


Been a member for 15 years now.

Just finished reading Robert Harris's 'Enigma' in which Turing is only
a peripheral figure. Not a very good book but it goes give one quite
a vivid mental image of what it must have been like working at
Bletchley Park.


try reading 'Cryptonomicon'; Turing even turns up there for a bit, and
it's a great book although not much BP in it.


Amazon.uk only offers the German edition for the Kindle, but I suppose I
could use the practice!


I bought mine long before the Kindle...!



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On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:58:25 -0000, "Andrew Mawson"
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"The Other Mike" wrote in message
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:20:46 -0000, "Andrew Mawson"
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Backing up parameters in a Fanuc 6M control used in a 1985 Fanuc Tape
Cut
Model M wire EDM machine that happens to be sitting in my garage and
being
polished!! Parameters are held in Bubble Memory (remember that?) which I
need to remove.

Wouldn't it be easier to donate the Fanuc to a museum, and use a PC
with EMC2 ?

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Wouldn't get much edm wire cutting done that way!


I meant dump the controller for something a bit more modern.


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It's a very capable controller and entirely adequate for the job.
Implementing a four axis retrofit on something as specific as a wire edm
machine is significantly more complex than, say, a 3 axis mill with a rotary
4th axis. Not only do you have to consider the linear motion of the axis but
also the control of the current source which is 'servo' in the sense of
feedback to the control, and the brake system that applies varying tension
to the wire dependant on cutting characteristics.

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Anyone know of a Teletype or a Facit 4070 paper tape punch gathering dust

and needing re-homing?



Yes I need to punch some paper tape !!



AWEM


not sure if you are still interested but I just got one in. Adam 416 9906140
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On Monday, 13 February 2012 09:27:28 UTC-5, Andrew Mawson wrote:

Anyone know of a Teletype or a Facit 4070 paper tape punch gathering dust




and needing re-homing?








Yes I need to punch some paper tape !!








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not sure if you are still interested but I just got one in. Adam 416 9906140


go on, thrill us - how much $?

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If anyone is interested, I have a Telex 4070 sitting in my office that's in excellent physical condition. I'm in Toronto Canada 416-636-7420

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Hey Jim.
I actually have no idea what this is worth, I stumbled upon this message board while researching what the heck this unit is. Feel free to make me an offer and I can run it by my boss.

Cheers Joe.






and needing re-homing?
















Yes I need to punch some paper tape !!
















AWEM








not sure if you are still interested but I just got one in. Adam 416 9906140




go on, thrill us - how much $?



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Just putting it out there.
Probably post it on ebay as well


Cheers Joe.




and needing re-homing?




Yes I need to punch some paper tape !!




AWEM




not sure if you are still interested but I just got one in. Adam 416 9906140




go on, thrill us - how much $?




The original post is two years old and from the UK. No-one is going to pay

to ship 100kg of KSR-33 across the Atlantic, even assuming they see this.





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