My son needs some means of reaching the guttering of a stone
outbuilding. Access is via a narrow gravel path or a lot of stone steps.
He has ladders, but they are not quite long enough for the multi-level
ground.

I have a scaffolding tower system that looks as though it can be
assembled into a 4 foot by 2 foot tower or 4 x 4 tower by assembling
the parts differently.

Construction is galvanised steel frames that fit together with diagonal
bracing pieces, the tubing being approx 2" o/d and 1.5" o/d. We have 4
wheels and 2 plates for under the bottom frames. There are also 4
pointed tubes, which we think might be used with some of the bracing
type rods as outriggers.

It was bought for use by my parents in a bungalow, so only goes up to
about 10 to 12 feet (I forgot to measure this). Since they died, it has
been outside our house in the elements for about 20 years and there is
no sign of rust or other decay.

Labels on the boards say Mills Scaffolding Co Ltd and Bantam SelfLock. I
seem to remember it was bought from Stoke via an advert in Exchange and
Mart.

We think there are enough frames to reach the 20 feet or so that he
needs, so the immediate need is for more diagonal bracing pieces for the
4 x 4 tower. These are simply poles with the 2" o/d tubing rings welded
to each end.

Would there be a source of these anywhere? We could probably get them
welded up locally, but if we can find something already made and
galvanised, that would be good.

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Bill

In message , Bill
writes
My son needs some means of reaching the guttering of a stone
outbuilding. Access is via a narrow gravel path or a lot of stone
steps. He has ladders, but they are not quite long enough for the
multi-level ground.

I have a scaffolding tower system that looks as though it can be
assembled into a 4 foot by 2 foot tower or 4 x 4 tower by assembling
the parts differently.

Construction is galvanised steel frames that fit together with diagonal
bracing pieces, the tubing being approx 2" o/d and 1.5" o/d. We have 4
wheels and 2 plates for under the bottom frames. There are also 4
pointed tubes, which we think might be used with some of the bracing
type rods as outriggers.

It was bought for use by my parents in a bungalow, so only goes up to
about 10 to 12 feet (I forgot to measure this). Since they died, it
has been outside our house in the elements for about 20 years and there
is no sign of rust or other decay.

Labels on the boards say Mills Scaffolding Co Ltd and Bantam SelfLock.
I seem to remember it was bought from Stoke via an advert in Exchange
and Mart.

We think there are enough frames to reach the 20 feet or so that he
needs, so the immediate need is for more diagonal bracing pieces for
the 4 x 4 tower. These are simply poles with the 2" o/d tubing rings
welded to each end.

Would there be a source of these anywhere? We could probably get them
welded up locally, but if we can find something already made and
galvanised, that would be good.

Two diagonal braces is adequate: each one forms a pair of triangles. Use
one on the bottom stage and the second near the top at 90deg.

I have something similar here which goes to 16'0". Not sure about your
pointed tubes; they may be extension pieces.

You should also have two 4'0" poles with welded rings. these are needed
for locking the final pair of sections (top) together.

regards


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Tim Lamb

Two diagonal braces is adequate: each one forms a pair of triangles. Use
one on the bottom stage and the second near the top at 90deg.

I have something similar here which goes to 16'0". Not sure about your
pointed tubes; they may be extension pieces.

You should also have two 4'0" poles with welded rings. these are needed
for locking the final pair of sections (top) together.

regards


Rather than hunt around for custom parts I'd just get something like these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-swivel-c...item4ab262dfcd

and a few suitable lengths of scaffold pole.

In message , Tim Lamb
writes
Two diagonal braces is adequate: each one forms a pair of triangles.
Use one on the bottom stage and the second near the top at 90deg.

Thanks for that. We were probably being too scared of it and thinking we
needed a diagonal at every section.

I have something similar here which goes to 16'0". Not sure about your
pointed tubes; they may be extension pieces.

They have a point at one end and a tiny welded ring a few inches down at
the other. There are 4 of them and we also have some poles with rings
that don't match either the 4x2 assembly or the 4x4. We have done a
dummy assembly with the poles and tubes as hammer in to the lawn
stabilisers and they do all seem to fit.

You should also have two 4'0" poles with welded rings. these are needed
for locking the final pair of sections (top) together.

Yes, we do. So the final top sections form guardrails, I assume. We also
seem to have amateur-made wooden planks that look like toe-rails. We did
wonder whether the pointed tubes would fit on top and form guardrails
with the 4 foot poles and need the toerails, but that seems a bit
unlikely.

Thanks for that. It is all becoming clear now.
--
Bill

On Dec 31 2011, 4:15*pm, Bill wrote:
My son needs some means of reaching the guttering of a stone
outbuilding. Access is via a narrow gravel path or a lot of stone steps.
He has ladders, but they are not quite long enough for the multi-level
ground.

I have a scaffolding tower system that looks as though it can be
assembled into a 4 foot by 2 foot tower or 4 *x 4 tower by assembling
the parts differently.

Construction is galvanised steel frames that fit together with diagonal
bracing pieces, the tubing being approx 2" o/d and 1.5" o/d. We have 4
wheels and 2 plates for under the bottom frames. There are also 4
pointed tubes, which we think might be used with some of the bracing
type rods as outriggers.

It was bought for use by my parents in a bungalow, so only goes up to
about 10 *to 12 feet (I forgot to measure this). Since they died, it has
been outside our house in the elements for about 20 years and there is
no sign of rust or other decay.

Labels on the boards say Mills Scaffolding Co Ltd and Bantam SelfLock. I
seem to remember it was bought from Stoke via an advert in Exchange and
Mart.

We think there are enough frames to reach the 20 feet or so that he
needs, so the immediate need is for more diagonal bracing pieces for the
4 x 4 tower. These are simply poles with the 2" o/d tubing rings welded
to each end.

Would there be a source of these anywhere? We could probably get them
welded up locally, but if we can find something already made and
galvanised, that would be good.

Imho ss fixings resinned into brickwork are safer.


NT

On Dec 31 2011, 4:15*pm, Bill wrote:

Would there be a source of these anywhere? We could probably get them
welded up locally, but if we can find something already made and
galvanised, that would be good.

E-bay.

I have 'something similar'. It seems there were lots of small makers
making 'something similar' and most of the bits I found were exactly
the wrong size.
I got 'something similar' from the estate of a relative and thought it
would be a useful addition to my frames; it was, of course, exactly
the wrong size and was flogged on E-bay.

I found that these things are usually stored outside and although they
may show no rust, they do rust at the welds from the inside. I'd
recommend a hammer test of the joints before trusting life and limb to
it. With hindsight, the chances of finding components that match the
existing components is so slim as to make it a waste of time. Either
buy a whole set or buy/hire a new tower.

Bill wrote:
In message , Tim Lamb
writes
Two diagonal braces is adequate: each one forms a pair of triangles.
Use one on the bottom stage and the second near the top at 90deg.

Thanks for that. We were probably being too scared of it and thinking we
needed a diagonal at every section.

Two diagonals is OK, I have just such a tower assembled outside the
end of our house at the moment to re-screw the lapped wood on the end
of the house. There are five 'levels', I've put the diagonals at the
top of the first level and the top of the third level.



I have something similar here which goes to 16'0". Not sure about your
pointed tubes; they may be extension pieces.

They have a point at one end and a tiny welded ring a few inches down at
the other. There are 4 of them and we also have some poles with rings
that don't match either the 4x2 assembly or the 4x4. We have done a
dummy assembly with the poles and tubes as hammer in to the lawn
stabilisers and they do all seem to fit.

You should also have two 4'0" poles with welded rings. these are needed
for locking the final pair of sections (top) together.

Yes, we do. So the final top sections form guardrails, I assume. We also

That's certainly what ours has, four (two short and two long) guard
rails around the top.


seem to have amateur-made wooden planks that look like toe-rails. We did
wonder whether the pointed tubes would fit on top and form guardrails
with the 4 foot poles and need the toerails, but that seems a bit
unlikely.

Thanks for that. It is all becoming clear now.
--
Bill

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In message
, NT
writes
On Dec 31 2011, 4:15*pm, Bill wrote:
My son needs some means of reaching the guttering of a stone
outbuilding. Access is via a narrow gravel path or a lot of stone steps.
He has ladders, but they are not quite long enough for the multi-level
ground.

I have a scaffolding tower system that looks as though it can be
assembled into a 4 foot by 2 foot tower or 4 *x 4 tower by assembling
the parts differently.

Construction is galvanised steel frames that fit together with diagonal
bracing pieces, the tubing being approx 2" o/d and 1.5" o/d. We have 4
wheels and 2 plates for under the bottom frames. There are also 4
pointed tubes, which we think might be used with some of the bracing
type rods as outriggers.

It was bought for use by my parents in a bungalow, so only goes up to
about 10 *to 12 feet (I forgot to measure this). Since they died, it has
been outside our house in the elements for about 20 years and there is
no sign of rust or other decay.

Labels on the boards say Mills Scaffolding Co Ltd and Bantam SelfLock. I
seem to remember it was bought from Stoke via an advert in Exchange and
Mart.

We think there are enough frames to reach the 20 feet or so that he
needs, so the immediate need is for more diagonal bracing pieces for the
4 x 4 tower. These are simply poles with the 2" o/d tubing rings welded
to each end.

Would there be a source of these anywhere? We could probably get them
welded up locally, but if we can find something already made and
galvanised, that would be good.

Imho ss fixings resinned into brickwork are safer.

Undoubtedly!

However, these steel 4x4 towers are VERY HEAVY and stable on flat
ground. Safety rails, kick boards etc. are another matter. I have just
finished using mine (free standing) to fit conduit and lights in an
agricultural barn at about 18'. Climbing a ladder and then stepping on
to the edge of the platform was unconcerning. 95kg + wellies:-)

regards


NT

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Tim Lamb

replying to Bill, terry wrote:
hi bill where are you situated i need a small scaffold. Regards terry

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replying to Bill, terry wrote:
hi bill where are you situated i need a small scaffold. Regards terry

Not very likely to still be there 9 years later.

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On Saturday, 29 February 2020 21:07:04 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
hi bill where are you situated i need a small scaffold. Regards terry
Not very likely to still be there 9 years later.

I know Bill's been having a tidy-up but actually I think there's a fair chance it is!!

Owain

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trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:


Not very likely to still be there 9 years later.

More likey than you being still around in 9 years, you disgusting
86-year-old trolling senile swine! I personally will see to it that it will
be a LOT earlier! BG

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replying to Bill, terry wrote:
hi bill where are you situated i need a small scaffold. Regards terry

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Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote

Why who are you going to hang?

Himself, so he doesn’t catch the coronavirus.

"terry" m wrote in
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replying to Bill, terry wrote:
hi bill where are you situated i need a small scaffold. Regards terry

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On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 20:12:47 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Himself, so he doesn¢t catch the coronavirus.

More likely another useless senile asshole like you that everyone would like
to get rid off!

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