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Solar Edge PV system
Anyone got any experience of the Solar Edge PV inverter and optimiser?
Looks to be useful in shaded/shadowed installations. http://www.solaredge.com/groups/products/overview -- F |
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On Sep 15, 12:35*am, F news@nowhere wrote:
Anyone got any experience of the Solar Edge PV inverter and optimiser? Looks to be useful in shaded/shadowed installations. http://www.solaredge.com/groups/products/overview -- F Doesn't seem to do anything that others don't do. The most commonly used inverters use here are Sunny boy an Fronius. I think the issue you want to concern yourself with is reliability. Insofar as anything at all can be discovered. |
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On 15/09/2011 09:26 harry wrote:
On Sep 15, 12:35 am, Fnews@nowhere wrote: Anyone got any experience of the Solar Edge PV inverter and optimiser? Looks to be useful in shaded/shadowed installations. http://www.solaredge.com/groups/products/overview -- F Doesn't seem to do anything that others don't do. I thought the control it offered was much finer than the Sunny Boy in that it looked at each panel every few seconds to decide whether or not to include that particular panel in the array's output. I think the issue you want to concern yourself with is reliability. Agreed, which was one of the underlying reasons for the question. There's so much kit out there, from a multitude of manufacturers, that experience of any of it seems to be quite dilute. -- F |
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On Sep 15, 12:35*am, F news@nowhere wrote:
Anyone got any experience of the Solar Edge PV inverter and optimiser? Looks to be useful in shaded/shadowed installations. http://www.solaredge.com/groups/products/overview -- F If it sounds too good to be true it probably is Ye canna change the laws of physics captain |
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"cynic" wrote in message ... Ye canna change the laws of physics captain Of course you can, its been done in the past, it will be done in the future. the so called laws are created to fit the observations and may or may not cover all circumstances. |
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dennis@home wrote:
"cynic" wrote in message ... Ye canna change the laws of physics captain Of course you can, its been done in the past, it will be done in the future. the so called laws are created to fit the observations and may or may not cover all circumstances. The fact that one can do physics at all, Dennis is predicated on the assumption that there are immutable laws of physics, whether we have identified them correctly or not. Your argument is typical of the green and wet behind the ears, that suggests that the laws of physics can be changed by believing in something different: Like the ability to store energy in your imagination, rather than in nuclear or chemical bonds, or in the kinetic energy differences between entities with disparate vector velocities. The laws of physics do not change. We simply adapt our understanding of them to meet more cases. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "cynic" wrote in message ... Ye canna change the laws of physics captain Of course you can, its been done in the past, it will be done in the future. the so called laws are created to fit the observations and may or may not cover all circumstances. The fact that one can do physics at all, Dennis is predicated on the assumption that there are immutable laws of physics, whether we have identified them correctly or not. Your argument is typical of the green and wet behind the ears, that suggests that the laws of physics can be changed by believing in something different: Like the ability to store energy in your imagination, rather than in nuclear or chemical bonds, or in the kinetic energy differences between entities with disparate vector velocities. The laws of physics do not change. We simply adapt our understanding of them to meet more cases. So says the man with a dubious degree in engineering to the man with a degree in physics from IC. 8-) |
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"dennis@home" wrote:
[snip] So says the man with a dubious degree in engineering to the man with a degree in physics from IC. 8-) Wow! You went to Ipswich College? |
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On Sep 15, 11:29*am, F news@nowhere wrote:
On 15/09/2011 09:26 harry wrote: On Sep 15, 12:35 am, Fnews@nowhere *wrote: Anyone got any experience of the Solar Edge PV inverter and optimiser? Looks to be useful in shaded/shadowed installations. http://www.solaredge.com/groups/products/overview -- F Doesn't seem to do anything that others don't do. I thought the control it offered was much finer than the Sunny Boy in that it looked at each panel every few seconds to decide whether or not to include that particular panel in the array's output. I think the issue you want to concern yourself with is reliability. Agreed, which was one of the underlying reasons for the question. There's so much kit out there, from a multitude of manufacturers, that experience of any of it seems to be quite dilute. -- F Early days yet in the technology. There are several people in this group have PV arrays. So far no problems. I have had one since April ths year. I expect if there are any problems it will be four or five years down the road. I would avoid the newcomers in this business. Sunny boy and Fronius have been at it for a few years at least. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fronius_International_GmbH |
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dennis@home wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "cynic" wrote in message ... Ye canna change the laws of physics captain Of course you can, its been done in the past, it will be done in the future. the so called laws are created to fit the observations and may or may not cover all circumstances. The fact that one can do physics at all, Dennis is predicated on the assumption that there are immutable laws of physics, whether we have identified them correctly or not. Your argument is typical of the green and wet behind the ears, that suggests that the laws of physics can be changed by believing in something different: Like the ability to store energy in your imagination, rather than in nuclear or chemical bonds, or in the kinetic energy differences between entities with disparate vector velocities. The laws of physics do not change. We simply adapt our understanding of them to meet more cases. So says the man with a dubious degree in engineering to the man who claims erroneously that he has a degree in physics from IC. 8-) |
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F wrote:
On 15/09/2011 09:26 harry wrote: On Sep 15, 12:35 am, Fnews@nowhere wrote: Anyone got any experience of the Solar Edge PV inverter and optimiser? Looks to be useful in shaded/shadowed installations. http://www.solaredge.com/groups/products/overview -- F Doesn't seem to do anything that others don't do. I thought the control it offered was much finer than the Sunny Boy in that it looked at each panel every few seconds to decide whether or not to include that particular panel in the array's output. I think the issue you want to concern yourself with is reliability. Agreed, which was one of the underlying reasons for the question. There's so much kit out there, from a multitude of manufacturers, that experience of any of it seems to be quite dilute. It does appear that this product offers finer control. Each panel has its own maximum power tracker costing £50-60 each and must be used with their own inverter. Retrofitting to an existing system is therefore expensive. Their inverters are cheaper than Sunnyboy but by the time you have added the optimisers the cost of power conversion is up by 25-30% on a standard arrangement. I believe I understand how they work but have requested information to try and confirm this. For a new installation it will possibly only add a few % to the total cost and may well improve the output in the case of shading. One item of bumpf from the company even suggests one system output was increased by 1% even with no shading present. Bob |
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