I painted a bedroom, using the b&q value roller, used one before came out
well.

When it dried as I walked in to the bedroom you can see all of the roller
marks.

Where did I go wrong ?

I have enough paint to put another coat on just wondering what to do the
next coat doesn't come out like this one ?

thanks

On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:57:30 +0100, Pete wrote:

When it dried as I walked in to the bedroom you can see all of the
roller marks.

Where did I go wrong ?

Has it fully dried, ie at least 48hrs since you finished? (assuming a
house at normal temps/humidty).

I have a wall on a landing that shows roller marks in day light with
the light coming through a window along the wall and looking towards
the window both at shallow angles. Pretty sure that is a texture
thing due to over rolling.

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Cheers
Dave.

Pete wrote:
I painted a bedroom, using the b&q value roller, used one before came
out well.

When it dried as I walked in to the bedroom you can see all of the
roller marks.

Where did I go wrong ?

I have enough paint to put another coat on just wondering what to do
the next coat doesn't come out like this one ?

cheap tools produce tatty results, which is why professionals always use the
best they can afford.

With paint rollers (and brushes) it's usually false economy to buy cheap
stuff, especially from B&Q, their 'value' range is crap of the highest
order.
For the price of this value roller, you could have got a fairly decent
quality one from a decorator supplies.
cheap ones hold hardly any paint even when fully loaded and so the tendency
is to 'scrub' the wall with it in an effort to spread what little it holds
further. With a quality sleeve, you should be able to cover a sq meter with
each load.

Another tipo for rolling emulsion, whether it's ceilings or walls, is to not
start with a fully loaded roller at the edge or at a corner - the roller has
usually deposited 80% of it's paint within a few feet of it first touching
the wall, this should then be 'crossed', first side-to-side, then up and
down, making sure that it's evenly covered.
Split each wall up into imaginary square meters and work from left to right,
starting at the top, then right to left for the middle, then left to right
for the bottom, making sure you overlap each segment.

When you are doing it this way, it's best to feather out the lower edge -
don't have a thick line of paint, because when it dries, this part will
show through - run the roller lightly over it so that when you are doing the
part below, they blend in together

Phil L wrote:
Another tipo for rolling emulsion, whether it's ceilings or walls, is
to not start with a fully loaded roller at the edge or at a corner -
the roller has usually deposited 80% of it's paint within a few feet
of it first touching the wall, this should then be 'crossed', first
side-to-side, then up and down, making sure that it's evenly covered.
Split each wall up into imaginary square meters and work from left to
right, starting at the top, then right to left for the middle, then
left to right for the bottom, making sure you overlap each segment.

When you are doing it this way, it's best to feather out the lower
edge - don't have a thick line of paint, because when it dries, this
part will show through - run the roller lightly over it so that when
you are doing the part below, they blend in together

I've done some sketches he

http://tinypic.com/r/10z4ot2/7

and

http://i56.tinypic.com/34jekcl.jpg

Pete wrote:

I painted a bedroom, using the b&q value roller, used one before came out
well.

When it dried as I walked in to the bedroom you can see all of the roller
marks.

Where did I go wrong ?

I have enough paint to put another coat on just wondering what to do the
next coat doesn't come out like this one ?

thanks

I get consistently good results with medium pile Harris roller and Dulux
Endurance (which is quite thick and not prone to splattering).

--
Tim Watts

Pete wrote:

I painted a bedroom, using the b&q value roller, used one before came out
well.

When it dried as I walked in to the bedroom you can see all of the roller
marks.

Where did I go wrong ?

I have enough paint to put another coat on just wondering what to do the
next coat doesn't come out like this one ?

thanks

I should add - that way I roller walls is this:

1) Cut the edges in with a bevel edged 1-ish inch frame brush (Harris again)
- nice and controllable, though doesn't hold much paint so about 10" at a
load;

2) Load the roller up fairly well and do a zig-zag over about 1m2, usually
1x1m but you can do tall thin rectangles if you prefer.

3) Repeat 2 until a complete vertical section of the wall is done.

4) Horizontal roller the top and bottom with a lightly loaded roller - get
within 1" of the edge. 4 may be done before 2 if preferred.

5) With the now empty but still wet roller, go top to bottom in vertical
strokes for a nice even finish, over coating the last section. Watch out for
edge lines caused by build up on roller. If the previous section is dry due
to break, or lines are apparant, run the roller back and forth at 30-45
degrees into the previous zone to blend in and take out the lines. If you
are planning to rest there, do the same on the other side to feather off so
the next section can be blended in easily.

6) If having a break, load roller fully and leave on tray - thick paint does
not dry out easily. Ditto brushes.

HTH

Tim

--
Tim Watts

On 29/07/2011 15:57, Pete wrote:
I painted a bedroom, using the b&q value roller, used one before came out
well.

When it dried as I walked in to the bedroom you can see all of the roller
marks.

Where did I go wrong ?

I have enough paint to put another coat on just wondering what to do the
next coat doesn't come out like this one ?


Can't comment on rollers, since I've not used them for 15 years or more,
but did you thin the paint before applying it ?

I always mix in about 25% water into the paint before applying it.
Yes, I know a second coat will be needed, but I know it before I start,
and since the second coat is also diluted, I will be using more than 20%
less than 2 coats.

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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Pete wrote:

I painted a bedroom, using the b&q value roller, used one before came out
well.

When it dried as I walked in to the bedroom you can see all of the roller
marks.

Where did I go wrong ?

I have enough paint to put another coat on just wondering what to do the
next coat doesn't come out like this one ?

thanks

I should add - that way I roller walls is this:

1) Cut the edges in with a bevel edged 1-ish inch frame brush (Harris
again)
- nice and controllable, though doesn't hold much paint so about 10" at a
load;

2) Load the roller up fairly well and do a zig-zag over about 1m2, usually
1x1m but you can do tall thin rectangles if you prefer.

3) Repeat 2 until a complete vertical section of the wall is done.

4) Horizontal roller the top and bottom with a lightly loaded roller - get
within 1" of the edge. 4 may be done before 2 if preferred.

5) With the now empty but still wet roller, go top to bottom in vertical
strokes for a nice even finish, over coating the last section. Watch out
for
edge lines caused by build up on roller. If the previous section is dry
due
to break, or lines are apparant, run the roller back and forth at 30-45
degrees into the previous zone to blend in and take out the lines. If you
are planning to rest there, do the same on the other side to feather off
so
the next section can be blended in easily.

6) If having a break, load roller fully and leave on tray - thick paint
does
not dry out easily. Ditto brushes.

HTH

Tim



Excellent and much needed advice guys. You've both been extremely elp,
thanks for the sketches Phill.

I took your advice and went to decroators mate and picked up a harris medium
pile roller and tray set. I re did the dodgy looking wall and it has come
out perfect! ... Its had about 9 hours now drying so with that type of time
you get a good idea how it will look once dry.

I've gotten excellent results with the b&q rollers in the past well twice.
But this time one first go the roller shed loads of tiny fibres from the
roller despite me giving it a good clean before hand, the room is immaculate
and it could have only come off the roler, so they must have been loose and
pulled when rollering. I had to gently sand it all down to remove it all
beore painting and wash it down, hoover irradicate the dust as it were. Once
bitten twice shy. I'll happily use the harris stuff, the cheapskate in me
just peeped out with the value stuff. I fugured just roll and let the
tray/roller harden up and bin it. No length cleaning times. But with a nice
set you tend to be happier cleaning it up well I was.

I have to admit painting it fairly tiresome. Well the first coat but once
you get in to it it goes well and it such a nice feeling wathing a room
change in to a new colour and looking good again, sounds geeky I guess but I
enjoyed this project.

Thanks again for the help.

Pete wrote:



Excellent and much needed advice guys. You've both been extremely elp,
thanks for the sketches Phill.

I took your advice and went to decroators mate and picked up a harris
medium pile roller and tray set. I re did the dodgy looking wall and it
has come out perfect! ... Its had about 9 hours now drying so with that
type of time you get a good idea how it will look once dry.

I've gotten excellent results with the b&q rollers in the past well twice.
But this time one first go the roller shed loads of tiny fibres from the
roller despite me giving it a good clean before hand, the room is
immaculate and it could have only come off the roler, so they must have
been loose and pulled when rollering. I had to gently sand it all down to
remove it all beore painting and wash it down, hoover irradicate the dust
as it were. Once bitten twice shy. I'll happily use the harris stuff, the
cheapskate in me just peeped out with the value stuff. I fugured just roll
and let the tray/roller harden up and bin it. No length cleaning times.
But with a nice set you tend to be happier cleaning it up well I was.

I have to admit painting it fairly tiresome. Well the first coat but once
you get in to it it goes well and it such a nice feeling wathing a room
change in to a new colour and looking good again, sounds geeky I guess but
I enjoyed this project.

Thanks again for the help.

You're welcome - glad it helped. BTW Phil's sketches, whilst not exactly the
way I do it, embody the basic approach I use

--
Tim Watts