Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing with
new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote to
suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of the
windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them for
free.

As DG units are often made to the exact size for each order, unless you have
exactly standard sized window, this seems unlikely

tim

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:41:41 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

So where has the money for the frames and glass magically come from?

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

Not a high pressure selling technique I've heard of but it has all
the hall marks. Was there a this week only 50% discount if you sign
now...

--
Cheers
Dave.

tim.... explained on 11/07/2011 :
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing with
new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote to
suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of the
windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them for
free.

As DG units are often made to the exact size for each order, unless you have
exactly standard sized window, this seems unlikely

Exactly - a fit in one measurement is very unlikely, a fit in both
measurements the odds against would be astronomical.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On Jul 11, 8:03*pm, "tim...." wrote:
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message

. uk...

Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing with
new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote to
suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of the
windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them for
free.

As DG units are often made to the exact size for each order, unless you have
exactly standard sized window,

Which are every common, hence the likes of Wickes being able to sell
standard sized units off the shelf. I've used them on more than one
occasion with a very good fit.

MBQ

Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote to
suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of the
windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them for
free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

'negotiation position'

On Jul 11, 7:41*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Might happen if the original windows were a standard size - like the
old Crittals steel windows.

Check the warranty terms are the same. If they charge "labour only",
your "free" windows may only be covered up to what you paid for them -
nought.

On Jul 11, 7:41*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Well, there is a clue for you. You have standard sized windows. Save
some money and go out and buy some ioff the shelf nstead of taylor
made ones.

Fit them yourself, no big deal. This is a DIY group after all.
Save about 75%.

On Jul 12, 6:28*am, " wrote:
On Jul 11, 7:41*pm, Harry Bloomfield





wrote:
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Might happen if the original windows were a standard size - like the
old Crittals steel windows.

Check the warranty terms are the same. If they charge "labour only",
your "free" windows may only be covered up to what you paid for them -
nought.- Hide quoted text -

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Windows in 95% of postwar houses were standard size. You can still
buy them and they are still fitted.
So it would be strange if they were not standard size.

In article , Harry
Bloomfield writes
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

Liars, walk away.

I ask for best price first time, every time (usually in component
procurement) but it tends to focus peoples minds when you tell them that
you wont accept quote adjustments at a later date.
--
fred
FIVE TV's superbright logo - not the DOG's, it's ********

On Jul 12, 8:56 am, fred wrote:
In article , Harry
Bloomfield writesJust been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

Liars, walk away.

I ask for best price first time, every time (usually in component
procurement) but it tends to focus peoples minds when you tell them that
you wont accept quote adjustments at a later date.

but has that ever worked for one off "retail" household purchase/
investments like the OPs windas? (and how would you know?)

Jim K

In article
, Jim
K writes
On Jul 12, 8:56 am, fred wrote:
In article , Harry
Bloomfield writesJust been getting some
quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

Liars, walk away.

I ask for best price first time, every time (usually in component
procurement) but it tends to focus peoples minds when you tell them that
you wont accept quote adjustments at a later date.

but has that ever worked for one off "retail" household purchase/
investments like the OPs windas? (and how would you know?)

It's a good point, that is a different situation as it is a one off
purchase but it has just worked for a window installation at a
relative's house.

In this case I calculated the parts cost online, got the cowboys in for
a quote then called the bloke I wanted to do the job in last, he was in
the right ballpark and got the job.

I usually know how much I want to pay before I ask for a quote so if it
is reasonable when it comes in then I will take it. The sort of people
who start high and come down a week later aren't people I would want to
do business with whatever the price.
--
fred
FIVE TV's superbright logo - not the DOG's, it's ********

On 12/07/2011 10:02, fred wrote:
In article
,
Jim K writes
On Jul 12, 8:56 am, fred wrote:
In article , Harry
Bloomfield writesJust been
getting some
quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have
them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking
they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

Liars, walk away.

I ask for best price first time, every time (usually in component
procurement) but it tends to focus peoples minds when you tell them
that
you wont accept quote adjustments at a later date.

but has that ever worked for one off "retail" household purchase/
investments like the OPs windas? (and how would you know?)

It's a good point, that is a different situation as it is a one off
purchase but it has just worked for a window installation at a
relative's house.

In this case I calculated the parts cost online, got the cowboys in
for a quote then called the bloke I wanted to do the job in last, he
was in the right ballpark and got the job.

I usually know how much I want to pay before I ask for a quote so if
it is reasonable when it comes in then I will take it. The sort of
people who start high and come down a week later aren't people I would
want to do business with whatever the price.
Tesco do that.

On 12/07/2011 10:03, Gary wrote:
On 12/07/2011 10:02, fred wrote:
In article
,
Jim K writes
On Jul 12, 8:56 am, fred wrote:
In article , Harry
Bloomfield writesJust been
getting some
quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have
them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking
they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

Liars, walk away.

I ask for best price first time, every time (usually in component
procurement) but it tends to focus peoples minds when you tell them
that
you wont accept quote adjustments at a later date.

but has that ever worked for one off "retail" household purchase/
investments like the OPs windas? (and how would you know?)

It's a good point, that is a different situation as it is a one off
purchase but it has just worked for a window installation at a
relative's house.

In this case I calculated the parts cost online, got the cowboys in
for a quote then called the bloke I wanted to do the job in last, he
was in the right ballpark and got the job.

I usually know how much I want to pay before I ask for a quote so if
it is reasonable when it comes in then I will take it. The sort of
people who start high and come down a week later aren't people I would
want to do business with whatever the price.
Tesco do that.
If you want a reducing quote get one from BG for central heating. I got
several quotes from different companies, then made a selection, BG was
the dearest by far. Then over the next year I got steadily decreasing
prices from them, until eventually they were the lowest. Of course by
then the job was done.

--
Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire

Man at B&Q formulated the question :
On Jul 11, 8:03*pm, "tim...." wrote:
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message

. uk...

Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing with
new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.
One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote to
suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of the
windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them for
free.

As DG units are often made to the exact size for each order, unless you have
exactly standard sized window,

Which are every common, hence the likes of Wickes being able to sell
standard sized units off the shelf. I've used them on more than one
occasion with a very good fit.

MBQ

Are they not intended to be used on a new build, where you can match
the hole in the wall to an easily available window size?

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On Jul 12, 6:54*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Man at B&Q formulated the question :





On Jul 11, 8:03*pm, "tim...." wrote:
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message

o.uk...

Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing with
new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.
One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote to
suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of the
windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them for
free.

As DG units are often made to the exact size for each order, unless you have
exactly standard sized window,

Which are every common, hence the likes of Wickes being able to sell
standard sized units off the shelf. I've used them on more than one
occasion with a very good fit.

MBQ

Are they not intended to be used on a new build, where you can match
the hole in the wall to an easily available window size?

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Of course they are.
But as they are standard size, you can just buy replacements off the
shelf.

harry was thinking very hard :
On Jul 12, 6:54*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Man at B&Q formulated the question :





On Jul 11, 8:03*pm, "tim...." wrote:
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.
One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote to
suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of the
windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them for
free.

As DG units are often made to the exact size for each order, unless you
have exactly standard sized window,

Which are every common, hence the likes of Wickes being able to sell
standard sized units off the shelf. I've used them on more than one
occasion with a very good fit.

MBQ

Are they not intended to be used on a new build, where you can match
the hole in the wall to an easily available window size?

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Of course they are.
But as they are standard size, you can just buy replacements off the
shelf.

But very unlikely for our house, it predates double glazing.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

harry explained on 12/07/2011 :
On Jul 11, 7:41*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Well, there is a clue for you. You have standard sized windows. Save
some money and go out and buy some ioff the shelf nstead of taylor
made ones.

Fit them yourself, no big deal. This is a DIY group after all.
Save about 75%.

I put the last lot in lol

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Harry Bloomfield wrote :
harry explained on 12/07/2011 :
On Jul 11, 7:41*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Well, there is a clue for you. You have standard sized windows. Save
some money and go out and buy some ioff the shelf nstead of taylor
made ones.

Fit them yourself, no big deal. This is a DIY group after all.
Save about 75%.

I put the last lot in lol

Damn, you've got me thinking now.

Last lot I did, it was a matter of hauling the frame complete with
glass into place, back breaking job. They don't do it that way now,
bare frame fixed in place, then put the glass in - easy peasy.

Just one snag, the bay. its a wooden framed structure, centre panel
with two side panels at 45 degrees. How would that be tackled in UPVC?

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Harry Bloomfield was thinking very hard :
Harry Bloomfield wrote :
harry explained on 12/07/2011 :
On Jul 11, 7:41*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Well, there is a clue for you. You have standard sized windows. Save
some money and go out and buy some ioff the shelf nstead of taylor
made ones.

Fit them yourself, no big deal. This is a DIY group after all.
Save about 75%.

I put the last lot in lol

Damn, you've got me thinking now.

Last lot I did, it was a matter of hauling the frame complete with glass into
place, back breaking job. They don't do it that way now, bare frame fixed in
place, then put the glass in - easy peasy.

Just one snag, the bay. its a wooden framed structure, centre panel with two
side panels at 45 degrees. How would that be tackled in UPVC?

Checking the DIY fit option out, it actually only saves about 25 to 30%
of the cost at a rough estimate.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On 12 Jul,
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Are they not intended to be used on a new build, where you can match
the hole in the wall to an easily available window size?

There's been standard sizes for years. Ours are (all but the one I didn't
measure!), 30 odd years old. Some installers just use metric sizes and pad
them out to fit them in Imperial holes.

The better ones don't. Best to check out each firm with known previous
customers, IE recommendations from satisfied customers that you personally
know.

--
B Thumbs
Change lycos to yahoo to reply

On Jul 12, 9:56*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
harry was thinking very hard :





On Jul 12, 6:54*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Man at B&Q formulated the question :

On Jul 11, 8:03*pm, "tim...." wrote:
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
.co.uk...
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.
One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote to
suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of the
windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them for
free.

As DG units are often made to the exact size for each order, unless you
have exactly standard sized window,

Which are every common, hence the likes of Wickes being able to sell
standard sized units off the shelf. I've used them on more than one
occasion with a very good fit.

MBQ

Are they not intended to be used on a new build, where you can match
the hole in the wall to an easily available window size?

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Of course they are.
*But as they are standard size, you can just buy replacements off the
shelf.

But very unlikely for our house, it predates double glazing.

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Standard windows long predate double glazing.

On Jul 12, 10:59*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Harry Bloomfield was thinking very hard :





Harry Bloomfield wrote :
harry explained on 12/07/2011 :
On Jul 11, 7:41*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Well, there is a clue for you. *You have standard sized windows. Save
some money and go out and buy some ioff the shelf nstead of taylor
made ones.

Fit them yourself, no big deal. *This is a DIY group after all.
Save about 75%.

I put the last lot in lol

Damn, you've got me thinking now.

Last lot I did, it was a matter of hauling the frame complete with glass into
place, back breaking job. They don't do it that way now, bare frame fixed in
place, then put the glass in - easy peasy.

Just one snag, the bay. its a wooden framed structure, centre panel with two
side panels at 45 degrees. How would that be tackled in UPVC?

Checking the DIY fit option out, it actually only saves about 25 to 30%
of the cost at a rough estimate.

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There's windows and windows. ie, a wide range of qualities and
standards.
Especially the DG units.

On Jul 12, 10:59*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Harry Bloomfield was thinking very hard :





Harry Bloomfield wrote :
harry explained on 12/07/2011 :
On Jul 11, 7:41*pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Well, there is a clue for you. *You have standard sized windows. Save
some money and go out and buy some ioff the shelf nstead of taylor
made ones.

Fit them yourself, no big deal. *This is a DIY group after all.
Save about 75%.

I put the last lot in lol

Damn, you've got me thinking now.

Last lot I did, it was a matter of hauling the frame complete with glass into
place, back breaking job. They don't do it that way now, bare frame fixed in
place, then put the glass in - easy peasy.

Just one snag, the bay. its a wooden framed structure, centre panel with two
side panels at 45 degrees. How would that be tackled in UPVC?

Checking the DIY fit option out, it actually only saves about 25 to 30%
of the cost at a rough estimate.

--
Regards,
* * * * Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

BTW. You need to shop round. The prices bandied about are not the real
ones. They even sell them in "Screwfix", prices start at £122.

Use the telephone.The they know you are getting lots of prices and you
get a better offer. But compare like with like, quality and the sort
of DG units you get varies hugely.
Discounts of 75% are not unknown.
Don't be afraid to say "so and so is sellling for £X"
Lie if you need to.
Make sure the quote includes VAT.
uPVC is only slightly more expensive than timber windows

These retailers are f*****g crooks and rip-off merchants. Always
remember this.

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
. uk...
Harry Bloomfield was thinking very hard :
Harry Bloomfield wrote :
harry explained on 12/07/2011 :
On Jul 11, 7:41 pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have
them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking
they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Well, there is a clue for you. You have standard sized windows. Save
some money and go out and buy some ioff the shelf nstead of taylor
made ones.

Fit them yourself, no big deal. This is a DIY group after all.
Save about 75%.

I put the last lot in lol

Damn, you've got me thinking now.

Last lot I did, it was a matter of hauling the frame complete with glass
into place, back breaking job. They don't do it that way now, bare frame
fixed in place, then put the glass in - easy peasy.

Just one snag, the bay. its a wooden framed structure, centre panel with
two side panels at 45 degrees. How would that be tackled in UPVC?

Checking the DIY fit option out, it actually only saves about 25 to 30% of
the cost at a rough estimate.

The "fitting" part of the cost of professional installation is tiny.

How much DIY saves you depends upon how good a price you can negotiate for
the actual windows (and the warranty). Some installers simply wont give you
a good deal however hard you try. Some will give you a good deal
immediately

tim

On Jul 13, 2:04*pm, "tim...." wrote:
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message

. uk...





Harry Bloomfield was thinking very hard :
Harry Bloomfield wrote :
harry explained on 12/07/2011 :
On Jul 11, 7:41 pm, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
Just been getting some quotes for replacing all of the double glazing
with new, as an alternative to repairing wooden sills.

One of the companies rang back thee days after submitting their quote
to suggest the could do it a bit cheaper as they already had some of
the windows in stock and surplus to requirements, so we could have
them
for free.

It sounds more like the old trick of quoting for the job, thinking
they
have not got it - so lets try a slightly cheaper quote to tempt.

What say the panel?

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Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Well, there is a clue for you. *You have standard sized windows. Save
some money and go out and buy some ioff the shelf nstead of taylor
made ones.

Fit them yourself, no big deal. *This is a DIY group after all.
Save about 75%.

I put the last lot in lol

Damn, you've got me thinking now.

Last lot I did, it was a matter of hauling the frame complete with glass
into place, back breaking job. They don't do it that way now, bare frame
fixed in place, then put the glass in - easy peasy.

Just one snag, the bay. its a wooden framed structure, centre panel with
two side panels at 45 degrees. How would that be tackled in UPVC?

Checking the DIY fit option out, it actually only saves about 25 to 30% of
the cost at a rough estimate.

The "fitting" part of the cost of professional installation is tiny.

How much DIY saves you depends upon how good a price you can negotiate for
the actual windows (and the warranty). *Some installers simply wont give you
a good deal however hard you try. *Some will give you a good deal
immediately

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The "taylor made" bit is high.

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Harry wrote :
Standard windows long predate double glazing.

Yes, but what were standard windows used a standard width opening casement
so the total width was n times this + n+1 times frame. IIRC the standard
widths were something like 630, 1200 and 1770

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Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on',
Melbourne, Australia www.greentram.com