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Drilling for an extractor fan, from the inside only
I need a 4" hole through brick, for an extractor fan. The ony problem
is that its two floors up, and there's no access to the outside wall. It's directly above a small tile roof and the only place to put a ladder is about 6' to one side and too small to put a scaff tower. Really I need to think of a way to core drill and fit this, working entirely from the inside and without dropping the plug. Any bright ideas? I can probably lay some plywood and carpet over the roof temporarily, just in case of falling masonry, but I'd rather avoid dropping anything big and heavy. Thanks |
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Drilling for an extractor fan, from the inside only
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 05:52:15 -0700, Andy Dingley wrote:
I need a 4" hole through brick, for an extractor fan. The ony problem is that its two floors up, and there's no access to the outside wall. It's directly above a small tile roof and the only place to put a ladder is about 6' to one side and too small to put a scaff tower. Really I need to think of a way to core drill and fit this, working entirely from the inside and without dropping the plug. Been there, done that. Core drill from inside. The plug *should* stay in the core drill (fingers crossed!). Drop rope out through hole from inside. Fit vent terminal to bit of 4" soil/vent pipe using stixall or similar sealant/adhesive - don't let it set as you'll need to allow a bit of wobble as outside wall and axis of hole bound not to be perfectly perpendicular. Apply one-part PU adhesive to wall-mating surface of vent terminal. Thread rope through pipe & loop around stick on outside of vent terminal. Pull rope up from inside, reaching out through hole to help pipe & vent terminal in and to align terminal & bed it against wall, keeping tension on rope (tie it to something) until glues have set. Repeat steps above applying industrial-strength Anglo-Saxon as it all falls apart leaving your hands coated with glue. When adhesives have set release rope, attempt to remove any surplus glue via whatever access you do have, job done! -- John Stumbles Hypnotising Hypnotists Can Be Tricky |
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Drilling for an extractor fan, from the inside only
"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... I need a 4" hole through brick, for an extractor fan. The ony problem is that its two floors up, and there's no access to the outside wall. It's directly above a small tile roof and the only place to put a ladder is about 6' to one side and too small to put a scaff tower. Really I need to think of a way to core drill and fit this, working entirely from the inside and without dropping the plug. Any bright ideas? I can probably lay some plywood and carpet over the roof temporarily, just in case of falling masonry, but I'd rather avoid dropping anything big and heavy. If you use a diamond core drill I wouldn't expect the plug to fall out, especially if its still got the pilot drill in. You would have to go easy on the last bit to avoid breaking the edges off. I doubt if a TCT core drill would do as well as they tend to break the edges if you try and breakthrough with them. If you are any good at metal work you could always cantilever a ladder so the top bit goes where you want it. Maybe even fasten one of those odd three jointed "universal" ladders on top. Test it well before using it though. |
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Drilling for an extractor fan, from the inside only
On 18/04/2011 14:10, dennis@home wrote:
"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... I need a 4" hole through brick, for an extractor fan. The ony problem is that its two floors up, and there's no access to the outside wall. It's directly above a small tile roof and the only place to put a ladder is about 6' to one side and too small to put a scaff tower. Really I need to think of a way to core drill and fit this, working entirely from the inside and without dropping the plug. Any bright ideas? I can probably lay some plywood and carpet over the roof temporarily, just in case of falling masonry, but I'd rather avoid dropping anything big and heavy. If you use a diamond core drill I wouldn't expect the plug to fall out, especially if its still got the pilot drill in. That was certainly my experience of how it happened when I drilled for a ventilator from inside my bathroom. I did have access to the oustide, but didn't fancy standing at the top of a ladder holding an industrial drill gun one handed and I didn't have any scaffolding. You would have to go easy on the last bit to avoid breaking the edges off.... I found the anti-backflow shutter on the outside was large enough to cover any spalling. Colin Bignell |
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Drilling for an extractor fan, from the inside only
On 18/04/2011 14:09, John Stumbles wrote:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 05:52:15 -0700, Andy Dingley wrote: I need a 4" hole through brick, for an extractor fan. The ony problem is that its two floors up, and there's no access to the outside wall. It's directly above a small tile roof and the only place to put a ladder is about 6' to one side and too small to put a scaff tower. Really I need to think of a way to core drill and fit this, working entirely from the inside and without dropping the plug. Been there, done that. Core drill from inside. The plug *should* stay in the core drill (fingers crossed!). Drop rope out through hole from inside. Fit vent terminal to bit of 4" soil/vent pipe using stixall or similar sealant/adhesive - don't let it set as you'll need to allow a bit of wobble as outside wall and axis of hole bound not to be perfectly perpendicular. Apply one-part PU adhesive to wall-mating surface of vent terminal. Thread rope through pipe& loop around stick on outside of vent terminal. Pull rope up from inside, reaching out through hole to help pipe& vent terminal in and to align terminal& bed it against wall, keeping tension on rope (tie it to something) until glues have set. Repeat steps above applying industrial-strength Anglo-Saxon as it all falls apart leaving your hands coated with glue. When adhesives have set release rope, attempt to remove any surplus glue via whatever access you do have, job done! They are a little more expensive, but you can buy a vent kit that has an extractor fan, outer cover with seal and the 4" tube, where the 4" tube has grooves along the outer surface, designed to take screws from the end. This means that you can screw the outer cover to the tube, use a rope to pull it into place, squirt some low expansion foam around it and then when it has set, simply screw the fan to the inner end of it. I used one of these as my ladders were trapped in the garage by my kit-car that had half the suspension disassembled! SteveW |
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