Hi
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds dropped by
the small birds from the feeders,
Need a selective scarer, any-body recommend a cheap powerful water pistol,
with good range ???
Thanks
Ken

Ken wrote:
Hi
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds dropped
by the small birds from the feeders,
Need a selective scarer, any-body recommend a cheap powerful water
pistol, with good range ???
Thanks
Ken

Air rifle. Lethal up to 30 meters. Eat pigon breasts poached in cider,
or made into pies.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Ken wrote:
Hi
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds dropped
by the small birds from the feeders,
Need a selective scarer, any-body recommend a cheap powerful water
pistol, with good range ???
Thanks
Ken

Air rifle. Lethal up to 30 meters. Eat pigon breasts poached in cider, or
made into pies.

Yebut, they can't get back to warn their mates to keep away.

On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:32:02 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Ken wrote:
Hi
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds dropped
by the small birds from the feeders,
Need a selective scarer, any-body recommend a cheap powerful water
pistol, with good range ???
Thanks
Ken

Air rifle. Lethal up to 30 meters. Eat pigon breasts poached in cider,
or made into pies.

Pigeon breasts have a very unpleasant taste IMHO; a bit like liver.
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In article , "Ken" says...
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds dropped by
the small birds from the feeders,


Out of curiosity, why is it a problem? We have pigeons and magpies visit
as well as the smaller stuff - it's just another bird.

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Mark wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:32:02 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Ken wrote:
Hi
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds dropped
by the small birds from the feeders,
Need a selective scarer, any-body recommend a cheap powerful water
pistol, with good range ???
Thanks
Ken
Air rifle. Lethal up to 30 meters. Eat pigon breasts poached in cider,
or made into pies.

Pigeon breasts have a very unpleasant taste IMHO; a bit like liver.

I rate it closer to heart actually.

That why you poach em in cider. Draws out the taste somewhat.

BUT a lot depends on what your pigeon has been eating. An undiluted diet
of rape does leave then a shade bitter, for example.

In any case they can be given to any cats and dogs, saving on tinned food.

Huge wrote:
On 2011-04-15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:32:02 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Ken wrote:
Hi
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds dropped
by the small birds from the feeders,
Need a selective scarer, any-body recommend a cheap powerful water
pistol, with good range ???
Thanks
Ken
Air rifle. Lethal up to 30 meters. Eat pigon breasts poached in cider,
or made into pies.
Pigeon breasts have a very unpleasant taste IMHO; a bit like liver.

Unpleasant? Liver? What an odd man you are.

I rate it closer to heart actually.

That why you poach em in cider. Draws out the taste somewhat.

Marinade them in lime juice and soy sauce.

Yeah, any mild acid seems to work. White wine and cream is another one I
have seen used.

Hare is another rather rank tasting meat if its not marinaded.

Wild rabbit too has an odour of sweaty socks, till its been suitably
treated.

As does wild venison.

But if you DO do the work, it completely disappears.

Rabbit or hare vindaloo, with mustard and vinegar, is peerless!

"Skipweasel" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ken" says...
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds dropped
by
the small birds from the feeders,


Out of curiosity, why is it a problem? We have pigeons and magpies visit
as well as the smaller stuff - it's just another bird.

cos pigeons are horrible birds, they congregate on my neigbours roof all the
time, ****ting everywhere, coming into the garden to scoff all the food put
down for the more pleasant birds (and they will eat a weeks worth of seeds
for the other birds in a few minutes)

Theres a tree they roost in that overhangs the road, the road is almost pure
white there due to all the pigeon ****e, every now and they you will see a
shoe print followed by a skid mark and then a bum and hand prints in the
accumilated crap,
i bet the people who slip and fall in the pigeon crap dont like them much
either.

On 15/04/2011 12:02, Gazz wrote:


"Skipweasel" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ken" says...
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds
dropped by
the small birds from the feeders,


Out of curiosity, why is it a problem? We have pigeons and magpies visit
as well as the smaller stuff - it's just another bird.

cos pigeons are horrible birds, they congregate on my neigbours roof all
the time, ****ting everywhere, coming into the garden to scoff all the
food put down for the more pleasant birds (and they will eat a weeks
worth of seeds for the other birds in a few minutes)

Theres a tree they roost in that overhangs the road, the road is almost
pure white there due to all the pigeon ****e, every now and they you
will see a shoe print followed by a skid mark and then a bum and hand
prints in the accumilated crap,
i bet the people who slip and fall in the pigeon crap dont like them
much either.

I can think of only one good thing about pigeons. No two, they sound
good cooing. Anyway they are the only birds that will fight off rooks
when they try to invade a stand of trees for their nests. I have nothing
against rooks but I don't want their loud, raucous sound all day near my
house. I watched a Libya-style battle that raged all day between two
large flocks of these two. The pigeons won. I am still not sure how. I
would suggest a cat but mine kills only one or two a month and that's
far too low a success rate. I've had to enlarge the cat door. He was
breaking them forcing his way in with the pigeons sideways on.

Peter Scott

Gazz wrote:


"Skipweasel" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ken" says...
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds
dropped by
the small birds from the feeders,


Out of curiosity, why is it a problem? We have pigeons and magpies visit
as well as the smaller stuff - it's just another bird.

cos pigeons are horrible birds, they congregate on my neigbours roof all
the time, ****ting everywhere, coming into the garden to scoff all the
food put down for the more pleasant birds (and they will eat a weeks
worth of seeds for the other birds in a few minutes)

Theres a tree they roost in that overhangs the road, the road is almost
pure white there due to all the pigeon ****e, every now and they you
will see a shoe print followed by a skid mark and then a bum and hand
prints in the accumilated crap,
i bet the people who slip and fall in the pigeon crap dont like them
much either.

wait till your car gets crapped on by a duck, or migrating goose..

In article , Peter Scott
scribeth thus
On 15/04/2011 12:02, Gazz wrote:


"Skipweasel" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ken" says...
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds
dropped by
the small birds from the feeders,


Out of curiosity, why is it a problem? We have pigeons and magpies visit
as well as the smaller stuff - it's just another bird.

cos pigeons are horrible birds, they congregate on my neigbours roof all
the time, ****ting everywhere, coming into the garden to scoff all the
food put down for the more pleasant birds (and they will eat a weeks
worth of seeds for the other birds in a few minutes)

Theres a tree they roost in that overhangs the road, the road is almost
pure white there due to all the pigeon ****e, every now and they you
will see a shoe print followed by a skid mark and then a bum and hand
prints in the accumilated crap,
i bet the people who slip and fall in the pigeon crap dont like them
much either.

I can think of only one good thing about pigeons. No two, they sound
good cooing.

A most awful noise;!...

Anyway they are the only birds that will fight off rooks
when they try to invade a stand of trees for their nests. I have nothing
against rooks but I don't want their loud, raucous sound all day near my
house. I watched a Libya-style battle that raged all day between two
large flocks of these two. The pigeons won. I am still not sure how. I
would suggest a cat but mine kills only one or two a month and that's
far too low a success rate. I've had to enlarge the cat door. He was
breaking them forcing his way in with the pigeons sideways on.


Well since we had a cat the pigeons have ****ed off elsewhere but he
gets the odd songbird from time to time as well as the odd
Pidgeon/dove..



Peter Scott



--
Tony Sayer

In article , says...
Out of curiosity, why is it a problem? We have pigeons and magpies visit
as well as the smaller stuff - it's just another bird.

cos pigeons are horrible birds, they congregate on my neigbours roof all the
time, ****ting everywhere, coming into the garden to scoff all the food put
down for the more pleasant birds (and they will eat a weeks worth of seeds
for the other birds in a few minutes)


Fair enough - I tend to treat them all the same, if they come to the
garden they'll get fed or eaten with equanimity.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

In article , lid says...
wait till your car gets crapped on by a duck, or migrating goose..


Comeing out of Watford running parallel to the canal I got straffed by a
skein of geese just taking off and, presumably, shedding load before
gaining altitude.

Shame I had the sun-roof out at the time - they were flying at about the
same speed I was driving.

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Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

In article ,
says...
Comeing


Oops!

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On 15/04/2011 13:08, Skipweasel wrote:
In , says...
Out of curiosity, why is it a problem? We have pigeons and magpies visit
as well as the smaller stuff - it's just another bird.

cos pigeons are horrible birds, they congregate on my neigbours roof all the
time, ****ting everywhere, coming into the garden to scoff all the food put
down for the more pleasant birds (and they will eat a weeks worth of seeds
for the other birds in a few minutes)


Fair enough - I tend to treat them all the same, if they come to the
garden they'll get fed or eaten with equanimity.


Hee hee. Ever eaten an ortolan or a swan?

On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:22:40 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Gazz wrote:


"Skipweasel" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ken" says...
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds
dropped by
the small birds from the feeders,


Out of curiosity, why is it a problem? We have pigeons and magpies visit
as well as the smaller stuff - it's just another bird.

cos pigeons are horrible birds, they congregate on my neigbours roof all
the time, ****ting everywhere, coming into the garden to scoff all the
food put down for the more pleasant birds (and they will eat a weeks
worth of seeds for the other birds in a few minutes)

Theres a tree they roost in that overhangs the road, the road is almost
pure white there due to all the pigeon ****e, every now and they you
will see a shoe print followed by a skid mark and then a bum and hand
prints in the accumilated crap,
i bet the people who slip and fall in the pigeon crap dont like them
much either.

wait till your car gets crapped on by a duck, or migrating goose..

Herring Gulls are pretty bad.
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:02:19 +0100, Gazz wrote:


"Skipweasel" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ken" says...
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds dropped
by
the small birds from the feeders,


Out of curiosity, why is it a problem? We have pigeons and magpies visit
as well as the smaller stuff - it's just another bird.

cos pigeons are horrible birds, they congregate on my neigbours roof all the
time, ****ting everywhere, coming into the garden to scoff all the food put
down for the more pleasant birds (and they will eat a weeks worth of seeds
for the other birds in a few minutes)

Err, the same amount of birdfood will be converted into the same amount
of birdcrap no matter what species eats it. So the fecal objections don't
make any sense.

Theres a tree they roost in that overhangs the road, the road is almost pure
white there due to all the pigeon ****e, every now and they you will see a
shoe print followed by a skid mark and then a bum and hand prints in the
accumilated crap,
i bet the people who slip and fall in the pigeon crap dont like them much
either.

In article , peter@peter-
scott.org.uk says...
Fair enough - I tend to treat them all the same, if they come to the
garden they'll get fed or eaten with equanimity.


Hee hee. Ever eaten an ortolan or a swan?


Actually I meant by the cat, but hey...

and no - though for some reason hunting ortolans seems familiar.

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root wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:02:19 +0100, Gazz wrote:

"Skipweasel" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ken" says...
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds dropped
by
the small birds from the feeders,

Out of curiosity, why is it a problem? We have pigeons and magpies visit
as well as the smaller stuff - it's just another bird.
cos pigeons are horrible birds, they congregate on my neigbours roof all the
time, ****ting everywhere, coming into the garden to scoff all the food put
down for the more pleasant birds (and they will eat a weeks worth of seeds
for the other birds in a few minutes)

Err, the same amount of birdfood will be converted into the same amount
of birdcrap no matter what species eats it. So the fecal objections don't
make any sense.

You are thinking like a wind lobbyist.

consider the proposition that 90% of peigeon food is NIOT from the bird
table, but they spend 100% more of their time at it than they would if
it was not there at all.

And the time many birds do crap is after a tasty snack, just as they are
taking off.

Our terrier put up a flock of wild geese..it was raining bird crap and
I dunno how I escaped.

cos pigeons are horrible birds, they congregate on my neigbours roof all
the
time, ****ting everywhere, coming into the garden to scoff all the food
put
down for the more pleasant birds (and they will eat a weeks worth of
seeds
for the other birds in a few minutes)

Err, the same amount of birdfood will be converted into the same amount
of birdcrap no matter what species eats it. So the fecal objections don't
make any sense.

not fussed about the ****e in this respect, it's that the greedy buggers
empty out the feeders in a few minutes, where the 'nicer' birds take about a
week to do so,

On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:50:42 +0100, Gazz wrote:

cos pigeons are horrible birds, they congregate on my neigbours roof all
the
time, ****ting everywhere, coming into the garden to scoff all the food
put
down for the more pleasant birds (and they will eat a weeks worth of
seeds
for the other birds in a few minutes)

Err, the same amount of birdfood will be converted into the same amount
of birdcrap no matter what species eats it. So the fecal objections don't
make any sense.

not fussed about the ****e in this respect, it's that the greedy buggers
empty out the feeders in a few minutes, where the 'nicer' birds take about a
week to do so,

Hmmm, you have to forgive my original presumption as your post was about
that aspect more than any other.

If you wish to prevent pigeons from feeding, just do what we've done and
downsize the feeders so they can't perch / access them directly. You will
still get them hoovering up the dropped/spilt birdseed, but your "nice"
birds will be the only ones small enough to empty the feeders.

However, it's better to have the pigeons remove birdseed from the ground
than for it to attract mice/rats to the area, which will come and nest
in your house as soon as winter sets in.

On 15/04/2011 18:03, Skipweasel wrote:
In , peter@peter-
scott.org.uk says...
Fair enough - I tend to treat them all the same, if they come to the
garden they'll get fed or eaten with equanimity.


Hee hee. Ever eaten an ortolan or a swan?


Actually I meant by the cat, but hey...

and no - though for some reason hunting ortolans seems familiar.



A small lark in France. Illegal to do it though Mitterand was allowed to
eat some as he died. You have eat the whole thing, feathers and guts,
and you wear a hood rather like a Ku Klux Klan barbecue. Or Dixie Pixies
as Tom Lehrer described them.

In article , peter@peter-
scott.org.uk says...
Actually I meant by the cat, but hey...

and no - though for some reason hunting ortolans seems familiar.



A small lark in France. Illegal to do it though Mitterand was allowed to
eat some as he died. You have eat the whole thing, feathers and guts,
and you wear a hood rather like a Ku Klux Klan barbecue. Or Dixie Pixies
as Tom Lehrer described them.


Yeah - I know that, but I'm trying to remember /why/ I knew it. Perhaps
a Gerald Durrell, or somesuch - I certainly remember reading a
description of ortolan hunting and scoffing. Might have been on the
radio, though.

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On 15/04/2011 21:47, Skipweasel wrote:
In , peter@peter-
scott.org.uk says...
Actually I meant by the cat, but hey...

and no - though for some reason hunting ortolans seems familiar.



A small lark in France. Illegal to do it though Mitterand was allowed to
eat some as he died. You have eat the whole thing, feathers and guts,
and you wear a hood rather like a Ku Klux Klan barbecue. Or Dixie Pixies
as Tom Lehrer described them.


Yeah - I know that, but I'm trying to remember /why/ I knew it. Perhaps
a Gerald Durrell, or somesuch - I certainly remember reading a
description of ortolan hunting and scoffing. Might have been on the
radio, though.


It was on the box. For the life of me can't remember what the programme
was though.

Got it. The Spectator December 2008 by: Simon Hoggart

"My favourite programme last week was France on a Plate (BBC4, Sunday)
in which Dr Andrew Hussey investigated the link between gastronomy and
la gloire; French glory and destiny. He began with a recreation of
François Mitterrand’s last meal, which climaxed with the illegal
consumption of ortolans, an endangered songbird which is blinded then
boiled in Armagnac. Yum! As you crunch the creature whole, its tiny head
dangling from your lips, you wear a napkin over your head which keeps
the flavour in, and emphasises the sacerdotal significance of the act.
Just as pre-revolutionary kings ate vast banquets while the peasants
starved largely to prove they could, so Mitterrand feasted on a
protected species because he too was the chef de l’état, and did as he
pleased, especially when days from death."

Just pretend it's a pigeon

Peter Scott

In article , peter@peter-
scott.org.uk says...
Just pretend it's a pigeon

Peter Scott



At this point, the coincidence of your name becomes overwhelming.

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:47:06 +0100, Skipweasel
wrote:

In article , peter@peter-
scott.org.uk says...
Actually I meant by the cat, but hey...

and no - though for some reason hunting ortolans seems familiar.



A small lark in France. Illegal to do it though Mitterand was allowed to
eat some as he died. You have eat the whole thing, feathers and guts,
and you wear a hood rather like a Ku Klux Klan barbecue. Or Dixie Pixies
as Tom Lehrer described them.


Yeah - I know that, but I'm trying to remember /why/ I knew it. Perhaps
a Gerald Durrell, or somesuch - I certainly remember reading a
description of ortolan hunting and scoffing. Might have been on the
radio, though.

See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alouette_(song)

The French genearally are abtsards.
--
Frank Erskine

In article ,
says...
See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alouette_(song)

I asked our French student at school whether she thought it appropriate
to teach fine upstanding British children that - she didn't see the
funny side at all.

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On 15/04/2011 22:41, Skipweasel wrote:
In , peter@peter-
scott.org.uk says...
Just pretend it's a pigeon

Peter Scott



At this point, the coincidence of your name becomes overwhelming.

Yes. Sussed. Its a new type of cloud computing called ectoplasmanet. I
find it easier than a ouija board.

On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:46:54 +0100, "Ken" kenp wrote:

Hi
Having trouble with Pigeons coming in garden, picking up seeds dropped by
the small birds from the feeders,
Need a selective scarer, any-body recommend a cheap powerful water pistol,
with good range ???
Thanks
Ken


To stop pigeons getting at a seed tray left for smaller birds, I
bought a small mesh flower/plant holder (the type that can be
suspended) and placed it, inverted over the seed tray. Used some
flexible garden wire to hold it in position.

Its quite entertaining to see the lengths pigeons go to, to try and
get in. Eventually the numbers trying have given up so magpies and
pigeons are making fewer visits.

km

On Apr 15, 8:46*am, "Ken" kenp wrote:
Hi
Having trouble with Pigeons *coming in garden, picking up seeds dropped by
the small birds from the feeders,
Need a selective scarer, any-body recommend a cheap powerful water pistol,
with good range ???
Thanks
Ken

Why not use the pigeons to wipe out your ISP bill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers


NT