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A considered and sensible look at Nuclear Power
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12860842
Of course, I'm sure there are some who won't see beyond their own prejudices..... -- The Wanderer The highest result of education is tolerance. |
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The Wanderer wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12860842 Of course, I'm sure there are some who won't see beyond their own prejudices..... the media is desperately trying to make the whole thing a Really Scary Event. And ignoring the really scary event: that not uncommon geological event can cause a lot more havoc than all the global warming to date and give rise to death tolls bigger than even the annual NHS infections and road deaths combined. And damage to property and business nearly as great as the Labour Party. |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:00 +0100, The Wanderer wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12860842 Of course, I'm sure there are some who won't see beyond their own prejudices..... a user friendly?! comparison of does amounts and their effects from the 'amount sleeping next to someone' up to the fatal 4-8Sv range that a few workers at chernobyl died from http://xkcd.com/radiation/ -- (º€¢.¸(¨*€¢.¸ ¸.€¢*¨)¸.€¢Âº) .€¢Â°€¢. Nik .€¢Â°€¢. (¸.€¢Âº(¸.€¢Â¨* *¨€¢.¸)º€¢.¸) |
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In message , Ghostrecon
writes On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:00 +0100, The Wanderer wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12860842 Of course, I'm sure there are some who won't see beyond their own prejudices..... a user friendly?! comparison of does amounts and their effects from the 'amount sleeping next to someone' up to the fatal 4-8Sv range that a few workers at chernobyl died from http://xkcd.com/radiation/ Anyone else not actually posted that link? -- geoff |
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geoff wrote:
In message , Ghostrecon writes On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:00 +0100, The Wanderer wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12860842 Of course, I'm sure there are some who won't see beyond their own prejudices..... a user friendly?! comparison of does amounts and their effects from the 'amount sleeping next to someone' up to the fatal 4-8Sv range that a few workers at chernobyl died from http://xkcd.com/radiation/ Anyone else not actually posted that link? I certainly have |
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geoff wrote:
In message , Ghostrecon writes http://xkcd.com/radiation/ Anyone else not actually posted that link? Me, d'you think I should? It's so handy, I downloaded it. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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In message , John Williamson
writes geoff wrote: In message , Ghostrecon writes http://xkcd.com/radiation/ Anyone else not actually posted that link? Me, d'you think I should? Yeah, go on then .. It's so handy, I downloaded it. What, the whole link ? -- geoff |
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"The Wanderer" wrote in message . .. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12860842 Of course, I'm sure there are some who won't see beyond their own prejudices..... I'm sorry but the comparison in the first line is ridiculous. Almost no-one dies of the effects of radiation today, they all die next year or the year after etc (and dieing of radiation poisoning is reasonable avoidable, dieing from the effect of an earthquake is not, unless we are going to leave half the globe unpopulated) And no, that comment wasn't governed by my prejudice tim |
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tim.... wrote:
"The Wanderer" wrote in message . .. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12860842 Of course, I'm sure there are some who won't see beyond their own prejudices..... I'm sorry but the comparison in the first line is ridiculous. Almost no-one dies of the effects of radiation today, They do if the dose is high enough. they all die next year or the year after etc Who doesn't? Standards are set so that at the worst possible interpretation of the data, you have less than one in 10,000 chance of dying earlier from radiation than any other cause. Those are the industry standards. (and dieing of radiation poisoning is reasonable avoidable, dieing from the effect of an earthquake is not, unless we are going to leave half the globe unpopulated) Actually, it wasn't the earthquake that got em, it was the tsunami. Earthquakes are pretty survivable in buildings designed to take them. Unless the ground literally cracks underneath, a bit of shaking is not necessarily that destructive. I suspect a lot of fluid dynamics labs will also now be examining structures that may just be able to survive and mitigate large tsunamis as well. And no, that comment wasn't governed by my prejudice tim |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... tim.... wrote: "The Wanderer" wrote in message . .. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12860842 Of course, I'm sure there are some who won't see beyond their own prejudices..... I'm sorry but the comparison in the first line is ridiculous. Almost no-one dies of the effects of radiation today, They do if the dose is high enough. I know. they all die next year or the year after etc Who doesn't? Standards are set so that at the worst possible interpretation of the data, you have less than one in 10,000 chance of dying earlier from radiation than any other cause. Those are the industry standards. What is the relevence of quoting "standards" when we don't YET know who has been affected and how long they might be affected for? (and dieing of radiation poisoning is reasonable avoidable, dieing from the effect of an earthquake is not, unless we are going to leave half the globe unpopulated) Actually, it wasn't the earthquake that got em, it was the tsunami. Which was why I said "effect of" tim |
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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , "tim...." wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... tim.... wrote: "The Wanderer" wrote in message . .. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12860842 Of course, I'm sure there are some who won't see beyond their own prejudices..... I'm sorry but the comparison in the first line is ridiculous. Almost no-one dies of the effects of radiation today, They do if the dose is high enough. I know. they all die next year or the year after etc Who doesn't? Standards are set so that at the worst possible interpretation of the data, you have less than one in 10,000 chance of dying earlier from radiation than any other cause. Those are the industry standards. What is the relevence of quoting "standards" when we don't YET know who has been affected and how long they might be affected for? If that's the case, why did you say "they all die next year or the year after etc" ? Cos it sounds SCARY!!! |
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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: Tim Streater wrote: In article , "tim...." wrote: What is the relevence of quoting "standards" when we don't YET know who has been affected and how long they might be affected for? If that's the case, why did you say "they all die next year or the year after etc" ? Cos it sounds SCARY!!! Then he's a dope. He can't say "they all die next year or the year after etc" and then say " ... when we don't YET know ... how long they might be affected for". Well, he can I suppose but that just confirms him as a fathead. Say No to Nuclar Power! Turn Off the Sun! |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "tim...." saying something like: (and dieing of radiation poisoning is reasonable avoidable, dieing It's 'dying'. |
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