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My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle,
a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? |
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On 28/01/2011 15:39, Jo wrote:
My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? You will probably need to specify placement and size of any windows and doors as this will have a big impact on what works and what does not. Andrew |
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On 28/01/11 15:39, Jo wrote:
My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? Mine is as small, I made it a wetroom. pictures here url: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djclark...7602063596078/ -- djc |
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On Jan 28, 3:39*pm, "Jo" wrote:
My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. *I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? Depending on where the door is, that's not a particularly small space for a shower room, and there should be plenty of room. We've recently done a really nice shower, toilet and basin setup in not much more than half that area. It could actually be possible in the space you have to fit a bath, separate shower, toilet and basin, although a more spacious setup without the bath is probably preferable. As the previous reply said, position of doors and windows determines what is possible. A |
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On 28/01/11 15:39, Jo wrote:
My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. *I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? Basin on top of cistern, if the floor layout can work with it. Common in Japan. NT |
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On 28/01/2011 15:39, Jo wrote:
My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? Modular hotel pods are good examples of how to get things into as small a space as possible. http://www.taplanes.com/showertoilet.php4 Colin Bignell |
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"andrew" wrote in message ... On Jan 28, 3:39 pm, "Jo" wrote: My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? ..... As the previous reply said, position of doors and windows determines what is possible. ---------------- And the position of the soil pipe/outlet. You will not want to reposition it for a trivial reason. Tim W |
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On 28/01/2011 16:15, djc wrote:
On 28/01/11 15:39, Jo wrote: My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? Mine is as small, I made it a wetroom. pictures here url: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djclark...7602063596078/ Impressive. But I have always wondered. If the point of a 'wet' room is that it all gets wet how do you keep the toilet paper dry? Andrew |
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On Jan 28, 4:23 pm, Tabby wrote:
On 28/01/11 15:39, Jo wrote: My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? Basin on top of cistern, if the floor layout can work with it. Common in Japan. NT larger toilet - do away with basin? ;) Jim K |
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On 28/01/11 16:45, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , djc wrote: Mine is as small, I made it a wetroom. pictures here url: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djclark...7602063596078/ Impressive. Far too modern in style for us, but that doesn't matter :-) How's it sealed round the edges, e.g. floor-to-wall? And I assume the underfloor pipes are not insulated, right? Does anyone insulate underfloor pipes? We've got some longish pipe runs to a downstairs loo, and it takes an age to get hot water through. Waste of water and energy, but I wondered what the standard is. The floor is a wedi fundo tray http://www.wedi.co.uk/fundokits.php: 40mm "Styrofoam core coated with a polymer-modified cement coating and reinforced with glass fibre". The walls are similar but 12mm. All the joints were taped with a rubberised sealing strip before tiling. And just in case there is some silicone on the corners. It's been very satisfactory for five years now. The 40mm of insulation underfoot means the tiles never feel cold. As its in a 2nd floor flat uninsulated pipes are not too much of a worry. If I was doing it again I might do so, but the problem of having to wait for hot water to come through is down to the combi boiler. Insulation might make some difference if the water system was in constant use, but I am out all day, and it is usual for several hours to pass before hot water is needed again. -- djc |
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Skipweasel ) wibbled on Friday 28 January 2011
17:01: In article , says... My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Ours isn't much bigger - the extra being more than taken up by the bath as well as the stuff you listed. Plain white. Pale floor. Has the advantage of being very cheap, very easy to get right, easy to repair in the unlikely event of damage, and makes it bright and light and airey. The only downside (oddly not that it's hard to clean, it isn't) but that it's sometimes a bit too bright - if you fancy lounging in a hot bath you'll need to do it with candles or something as the ceiling lights are a bit fierce for relaxing. Lights on a TLC pull cord dimmer - that's what I did - works very nicely :) -- Tim Watts |
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Tabby wrote:
On 28/01/11 15:39, Jo wrote: My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? Basin on top of cistern, if the floor layout can work with it. Common in Japan. How does that work, then? Is the cistern remote from the pan? If so, would it not be as well to have the cistern above head height instead, like in the good old days when you had a pull handle on the end of a chain? Why ever were they done away with? |
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andrew wrote:
On Jan 28, 3:39 pm, "Jo" wrote: My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? It could actually be possible in the space you have to fit a bath, separate shower, toilet and basin, I find that hard to believe, unless you're using undersize parts (for example I understand you can get 150cm long baths, but really nothing under 170cm is worth having unless you're a shortie), or unless you don't think you need much floor space for yourself (over and above the space taken up by the parts). It could be done, I think, without a separate shower (i.e. mount the shower on the wall above the bath taps, so you're standing in the bath when having a shower), but with a separate shower the figures just don't add up. The bath (170x70) must go along one long side, wasting 20x70; The shower (80x80) would probably need to go in one of the remaining two corners, wasting 80x5. This leaves only 110x85 into which to fit a toilet (40x70) and basin (50x40), and enough cruising room to access everything. |
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Tim Streater ) wibbled on Friday 28 January 2011
16:45: In article , djc wrote: On 28/01/11 15:39, Jo wrote: My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? Mine is as small, I made it a wetroom. pictures here url: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djclark...7602063596078/ Impressive. Far too modern in style for us, but that doesn't matter :-) Yes - that's one seriously nice piece of work! -- Tim Watts |
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Skipweasel wrote:
In article , ldomain says... Basin on top of cistern, if the floor layout can work with it. Common in Japan. How does that work, then? Is the cistern remote from the pan? No, the sink drains into the cistern to save water. Ah, nice idea, except that it means you need to disable the automatic fill, re-enabling it while you use the toilet so that it will be full enough to flush properly when you're done. But it seems to me that it *does* mean that the cistern is remote from the pan, i.e. not close-coupled. If the cistern is below the basin, the cistern can't also be above the pan, can it, otherwise the pan would be in the way when using the basin. Also it strikes me there could be a problem of there not being enough height for the bottom of the basin to be higher than the "full" mark on the cistern while still having enough head of water in the cistern to give a decent flush. Do they mount their basin higher up? With steps leading up? Or do you stand on the toilet to use the basin? But yes, de-coupling the cistern from the pan does save a bit of floor area - it means the pan can go right up against the wall without leaving room for the cistern behind it. |
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On Jan 28, 6:19*pm, Ronald Raygun
wrote: Skipweasel wrote: In article , says... Basin on top of cistern, if the floor layout can work with it. Common in Japan. How does that work, then? *Is the cistern remote from the pan? No, the sink drains into the cistern to save water. Ah, nice idea, except that it means you need to disable the automatic fill, re-enabling it while you use the toilet so that it will be full enough to flush properly when you're done. there are several possibilities. Buying a japanese toilet set would seem most logical, especially given their advantages. But if you wanted to cobble something together with british components, the easiest option is just to turn the fill valve down slower. But it seems to me that it *does* mean that the cistern is remote from the pan, i.e. not close-coupled. *If the cistern is below the basin, the cistern can't also be above the pan, can it, otherwise the pan would be in the way when using the basin. Also it strikes me there could be a problem of there not being enough height for the bottom of the basin to be higher than the "full" mark on the cistern while still having enough head of water in the cistern to give a decent flush. *Do they mount their basin higher up? *With steps leading up? *Or do you stand on the toilet to use the basin? But yes, de-coupling the cistern from the pan does save a bit of floor area - it means the pan can go right up against the wall without leaving room for the cistern behind it. I dont see the problem tbh. If you google japanese toilets you'll see how they work. Of course if you use larger spaced apart UK components you could be looking at a very shallow sink. NT |
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"djc" wrote in message ... On 28/01/11 15:39, Jo wrote: My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Anyone got any great ideas or have designed such a small space before? Mine is as small, I made it a wetroom. pictures here url: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djclark...7602063596078/ -- djc Live in the south? |
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In message , Skipweasel
writes In article , says... Impressive. But I have always wondered. If the point of a 'wet' room is that it all gets wet how do you keep the toilet paper dry? Shower cap. Or, just possibly, Bronco toilet paper. "Now wash your hands" -- geoff |
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In article 95006aec-d365-4ce9-9396-878f0e27eba8
@p12g2000vbo.googlegroups.com, says... there are several possibilities. Buying a japanese toilet set would seem most logical, especially given their advantages. But if you wanted to cobble something together with british components, the easiest option is just to turn the fill valve down slower. http://www.scalewatcher.co.uk/blog/i...ave-water-use- toiletsink-appliance/ -- Skipweasel - never knowingly understood. |
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Huge wrote:
IME, you can't, even in much larger ones. Everything's always damp. Wet rooms are horrid. My only experience with using one was that I had a perfectly nice shower, but there was nowhere dry to stand whilst getting dried. Then 30 minutes later I needed the loo, so it's either wet trainer marks all over the floor or take trainers and socks off and then dry feet afterwards. Not the most practical arrangement, especially as that was a large wetroom, with plenty of space for a separate shower area. Still, you have to admire djc's design and crafsmanship. It's beautiful, and it makes great use of the tiny space available. -- Murphy's ultimate law is that if something that could go wrong doesn't, it turns out that it would have been better if it had gone wrong. |
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"SS" wrote in message ... "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Skipweasel ) wibbled on Friday 28 January 2011 17:01: In article , says... My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Ours isn't much bigger - the extra being more than taken up by the bath as well as the stuff you listed. Plain white. Pale floor. Has the advantage of being very cheap, very easy to get right, easy to repair in the unlikely event of damage, and makes it bright and light and airey. The only downside (oddly not that it's hard to clean, it isn't) but that it's sometimes a bit too bright - if you fancy lounging in a hot bath you'll need to do it with candles or something as the ceiling lights are a bit fierce for relaxing. Lights on a TLC pull cord dimmer - that's what I did - works very nicely :) -- Tim Watts This is how we done out ensuite which wasnt too large. What helped was a toilet at 45% angle in the corner. Done to reasonable scale. http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...s/toilet-1.jpg An angled loo might be a good option.....thanks for the idea. I shall investigate. Jo |
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"Jo" wrote in message o.uk... "SS" wrote in message ... "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Skipweasel ) wibbled on Friday 28 January 2011 17:01: In article , says... My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Ours isn't much bigger - the extra being more than taken up by the bath as well as the stuff you listed. Plain white. Pale floor. Has the advantage of being very cheap, very easy to get right, easy to repair in the unlikely event of damage, and makes it bright and light and airey. The only downside (oddly not that it's hard to clean, it isn't) but that it's sometimes a bit too bright - if you fancy lounging in a hot bath you'll need to do it with candles or something as the ceiling lights are a bit fierce for relaxing. Lights on a TLC pull cord dimmer - that's what I did - works very nicely :) -- Tim Watts This is how we done out ensuite which wasnt too large. What helped was a toilet at 45% angle in the corner. Done to reasonable scale. http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...s/toilet-1.jpg An angled loo might be a good option.....thanks for the idea. I shall investigate. Jo We also put in a smaller than normal sink 51 wide x 41 deep. The shower is a double size thingy. |
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"SS" wrote in message ... "Jo" wrote in message o.uk... "SS" wrote in message ... "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Skipweasel ) wibbled on Friday 28 January 2011 17:01: In article , says... My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Ours isn't much bigger - the extra being more than taken up by the bath as well as the stuff you listed. Plain white. Pale floor. Has the advantage of being very cheap, very easy to get right, easy to repair in the unlikely event of damage, and makes it bright and light and airey. The only downside (oddly not that it's hard to clean, it isn't) but that it's sometimes a bit too bright - if you fancy lounging in a hot bath you'll need to do it with candles or something as the ceiling lights are a bit fierce for relaxing. Lights on a TLC pull cord dimmer - that's what I did - works very nicely :) -- Tim Watts This is how we done out ensuite which wasnt too large. What helped was a toilet at 45% angle in the corner. Done to reasonable scale. http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...s/toilet-1.jpg An angled loo might be a good option.....thanks for the idea. I shall investigate. Jo We also put in a smaller than normal sink 51 wide x 41 deep. The shower is a double size thingy. Yep, we've already planned a vastly smaller sink. The one here is enormous (not our choice...we only moved in a year ago!) |
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In message , Jo
writes "SS" wrote in message ... "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... Skipweasel ) wibbled on Friday 28 January 2011 17:01: In article , says... My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. Ours isn't much bigger - the extra being more than taken up by the bath as well as the stuff you listed. Lights on a TLC pull cord dimmer - that's what I did - works very nicely This is how we done out ensuite which wasnt too large. What helped was a toilet at 45% angle in the corner. Done to reasonable scale. http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...s/toilet-1.jpg An angled loo might be a good option.....thanks for the idea. I shall investigate. In the bathroom in the old house we put the handbasin across a corer, for similar space reasons. It was one of those semi siton ones, one a built in cupboard across the corner -- Chris French |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:15:52 -0000, Jo wrote:
"Skipweasel" wrote in message ... In article , says... My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle, a toilet and a basin. I drastically need to update to a clean, smart and modern design and maximise space, particularly the space in which to shower. No room for a bath! We are faced with a similar dilemma. As we get older the need for a walk-in shower will become greater than for a bath but as a compromise we are looking at installing a decent sized 900x900 shower cabinet and a tiny 1200mm bath. -- rbel |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:19:39 -0000 Rbel wrote :
We are faced with a similar dilemma. As we get older the need for a walk-in shower will become greater than for a bath but as a compromise we are looking at installing a decent sized 900x900 shower cabinet and a tiny 1200mm bath. My walk-in shower is 1100x850. It was a godsend to have it in 2009 when a bike accident put me on crutches for six weeks - I was able to put one of my balcony plastic chairs in the shower and shower sitting down. Perhaps I'll be doing the same when I'm old and decrepit. -- Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on' Melbourne, Australia www.superbeam.co.uk www.eurobeam.co.uk www.greentram.com |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:55:06 +1100, Tony Bryer wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:19:39 -0000 Rbel wrote : We are faced with a similar dilemma. As we get older the need for a walk-in shower will become greater than for a bath but as a compromise we are looking at installing a decent sized 900x900 shower cabinet and a tiny 1200mm bath. My walk-in shower is 1100x850. It was a godsend to have it in 2009 when a bike accident put me on crutches for six weeks - I was able to put one of my balcony plastic chairs in the shower and shower sitting down. Perhaps I'll be doing the same when I'm old and decrepit. It's always seemed to me that, if you have the space, a small bench or just somewhere to plonk your bum is a fantastic addition to any shower. It doesn't have to be much - just a 12 inch deep recess with a mat or wooden slats to insulate your rear end from the cold tiles. It would make showering much more pleasant (and less risky, too - no more slipping over when you do your feet). I was converted when we stayed in a hotel that had them. Ever since I've been trying to shoe-horn one in here. -- http://thisreallyismyhost.99k.org/29...1332027699.php |
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My tiny bathroom measures only 190cm x 155cm and comprises a shower cubicle,
a toilet and a basin. Luxery! My bathroom is 192cm x 72cm! The bath (170x70) must go along one long side, wasting 20x70; The shower (80x80) would probably need to go in one of the remaining two corners, wasting 80x5. A shower **and** a bath? Put the show over the bath. JGH |
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On 30/01/11 09:38, pete wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:55:06 +1100, Tony Bryer wrote: On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:19:39 -0000 Rbel wrote : We are faced with a similar dilemma. As we get older the need for a walk-in shower will become greater than for a bath but as a compromise we are looking at installing a decent sized 900x900 shower cabinet and a tiny 1200mm bath. My walk-in shower is 1100x850. It was a godsend to have it in 2009 when a bike accident put me on crutches for six weeks - I was able to put one of my balcony plastic chairs in the shower and shower sitting down. Perhaps I'll be doing the same when I'm old and decrepit. It's always seemed to me that, if you have the space, a small bench or just somewhere to plonk your bum is a fantastic addition to any shower. It doesn't have to be much - just a 12 inch deep recess with a mat or wooden slats to insulate your rear end from the cold tiles. It would make showering much more pleasant (and less risky, too - no more slipping over when you do your feet). I was converted when we stayed in a hotel that had them. Ever since I've been trying to shoe-horn one in here. The advantage of a wet room is that the WC provides the seating. -- djc |
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In article c5cf299e-9c62-42ca-be35-0ea9a4f45f0f@
33g2000pru.googlegroups.com, says... A shower **and** a bath? Put the show over the bath. Not always appropriate. We sweated blood trying (successfully) to fit in a seperate shower 'cos the one we had over the bath was too hard for the wife to get into. We wanted to keep the bath so the kids can have a soak when they come home from rugby. -- Skipweasel - never knowingly understood. |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:58:08 -0000, Skipweasel
wrote: In article c5cf299e-9c62-42ca-be35-0ea9a4f45f0f@ 33g2000pru.googlegroups.com, says... A shower **and** a bath? Put the show over the bath. Not always appropriate. We sweated blood trying (successfully) to fit in a seperate shower 'cos the one we had over the bath was too hard for the wife to get into. We wanted to keep the bath so the kids can have a soak when they come home from rugby. The beauty of a shower over the bath is that after you've soaked yourself you can stand away from the spray whilst you soap/gel yourself before hosing it all off, IYSWIM. -- Frank Erskine |
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Huge wrote:
The beauty of a shower over the bath is that after you've soaked yourself you can stand away from the spray whilst you soap/gel yourself before hosing it all off, IYSWIM. You need a decent sized shower cubicle. Quite. Showers over the bath are vile. They don't just look bad they are a farce compared to a walk-in shower tray of adequate dimensions. |
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In article , Huge wrote:
On 2011-01-30, Frank Erskine wrote: On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:58:08 -0000, Skipweasel wrote: In article c5cf299e-9c62-42ca-be35-0ea9a4f45f0f@ 33g2000pru.googlegroups.com, says... A shower **and** a bath? Put the show over the bath. Not always appropriate. We sweated blood trying (successfully) to fit in a seperate shower 'cos the one we had over the bath was too hard for the wife to get into. We wanted to keep the bath so the kids can have a soak when they come home from rugby. The beauty of a shower over the bath is that after you've soaked yourself you can stand away from the spray whilst you soap/gel yourself before hosing it all off, IYSWIM. You need a decent sized shower cubicle. The Subject is "Tiny Bathroom", so a decent sized shower cubicle and a separate decent sized bath probably isn't possible. I know you can get baths with doors in the side to make it easier for people with restricted mobility to get in and out, but I don't know how well they work. Obviously the door is only usable when the bath isn't full of water.... Quick Google later, something like http://www.practicalbathing.co.uk/the-topaz-2.html |
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