Bit of a pain in the bum leak.

Basically where the pan connects up to the backbox ? those two screws on
both side water is leaking from them on both sides everytime I flush. I
tried tightening the the plastic screw thing and one side has stopped
slghtly but the other side no joy.

I'm wondering if maybe a rubber washer inbetween the plastic screw bit and
backbox bas would do it ?

not to good with diy tasks hence the plea for help ?

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"Tim" wrote in message
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On Jan 25, 8:55 pm, "Tim" wrote:
erm.. if thats what the part that is screwed to the wall is called, then
yup

Does it look anything like this?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/how-to-fit-a-toilet

Owain

Thats the sucker Owain. In step 5 those 2 bolt come down from the costern
has water dripping out each time the toilet is flushed. Its more than a
drip its a constant flow of but not gushing.

(I appreciate everyones help and patience with my lack of DIY/toilet part
knowledge and poor describing lol) thanks.



I reckon you need to replace the `doughnut` washer.

If those two bolts come from inside the cistern (see holes in Step 3), why
can't it leak from there? There might be something wrong with the plastic
washer things they come with that always seem too hard to provide a tight
seal.

Although messing about with the bolts could also make the doughnut leak as
it doesn't seem to like being recompressed.

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"Tim" wrote in message
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Bit of a pain in the bum leak.

Basically where the pan connects up to the backbox ? those two screws on
both side water is leaking from them on both sides everytime I flush. I
tried tightening the the plastic screw thing and one side has stopped
slghtly but the other side no joy.

I'm wondering if maybe a rubber washer inbetween the plastic screw bit and
backbox bas would do it ?

not to good with diy tasks hence the plea for help ?

If you offer details more clearly somebody here will be able to help you.

"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message
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Bit of a pain in the bum leak.

Basically where the pan connects up to the backbox ? those two screws on
both side water is leaking from them on both sides everytime I flush. I
tried tightening the the plastic screw thing and one side has stopped
slghtly but the other side no joy.

I'm wondering if maybe a rubber washer inbetween the plastic screw bit
and backbox bas would do it ?

not to good with diy tasks hence the plea for help ?

If you offer details more clearly somebody here will be able to help you.









I'm sorry I'm awful at describing problems.

I'll take a photo perhaps.

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On Jan 25, 6:58 pm, "Tim" wrote:
Bit of a pain in the bum leak.

Basically where the pan connects up to the backbox ?

Do you mean the 'cistern'?

Owain

erm.. if thats what the part that is screwed to the wall is called, then yup

"Owain" wrote in message
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On Jan 25, 8:55 pm, "Tim" wrote:
erm.. if thats what the part that is screwed to the wall is called, then
yup

Does it look anything like this?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/how-to-fit-a-toilet

Owain

If its the 2 screws that hold the cistern to the wall (the part that holds
the water for flushing)
then it is probably over filling and needs the float adjusting.

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On Jan 25, 8:55 pm, "Tim" wrote:
erm.. if thats what the part that is screwed to the wall is called, then
yup

Does it look anything like this?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/how-to-fit-a-toilet

Owain

Thats the sucker Owain. In step 5 those 2 bolt come down from the costern
has water dripping out each time the toilet is flushed. Its more than a drip
its a constant flow of but not gushing.

(I appreciate everyones help and patience with my lack of DIY/toilet part
knowledge and poor describing lol) thanks.

"SS" wrote in message
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"Owain" wrote in message
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On Jan 25, 8:55 pm, "Tim" wrote:
erm.. if thats what the part that is screwed to the wall is called, then
yup

Does it look anything like this?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/how-to-fit-a-toilet

Owain

If its the 2 screws that hold the cistern to the wall (the part that holds
the water for flushing)
then it is probably over filling and needs the float adjusting.


Its the 2 screws in step 5 which attach the cistern to the bowl.

"Tim" wrote in message
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"Owain" wrote in message
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On Jan 25, 8:55 pm, "Tim" wrote:
erm.. if thats what the part that is screwed to the wall is called, then
yup

Does it look anything like this?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/how-to-fit-a-toilet

Owain

Thats the sucker Owain. In step 5 those 2 bolt come down from the costern
has water dripping out each time the toilet is flushed. Its more than a
drip its a constant flow of but not gushing.

(I appreciate everyones help and patience with my lack of DIY/toilet part
knowledge and poor describing lol) thanks.



I reckon you need to replace the `doughnut` washer.

"SS" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message
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"Owain" wrote in message
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On Jan 25, 8:55 pm, "Tim" wrote:
erm.. if thats what the part that is screwed to the wall is called, then
yup

Does it look anything like this?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/how-to-fit-a-toilet

Owain

Thats the sucker Owain. In step 5 those 2 bolt come down from the costern
has water dripping out each time the toilet is flushed. Its more than a
drip its a constant flow of but not gushing.

(I appreciate everyones help and patience with my lack of DIY/toilet part
knowledge and poor describing lol) thanks.



I reckon you need to replace the `doughnut` washer.


I'll have a look for that. Sods law. It was only put in 8 months ago by a
plumber.

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"Tim" wrote in message
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"Owain" wrote in message
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On Jan 25, 8:55 pm, "Tim" wrote:
erm.. if thats what the part that is screwed to the wall is called,
then yup

Does it look anything like this?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/how-to-fit-a-toilet

Owain

Thats the sucker Owain. In step 5 those 2 bolt come down from the
costern has water dripping out each time the toilet is flushed. Its more
than a drip its a constant flow of but not gushing.

(I appreciate everyones help and patience with my lack of DIY/toilet
part knowledge and poor describing lol) thanks.



I reckon you need to replace the `doughnut` washer.


I'll have a look for that. Sods law. It was only put in 8 months ago by a
plumber.


Others will confirm for you as I am not a plumber.

But the 2 screws fit onto a bracket and dont enter the cistern.
So the only bit that can leak is the doughnut. Which is where the water
transfers from the cistern to the bowl.
It is leaking out of that and then finding its way down the 2 screwholes.

The washers are only a couple of £s if that, easy to fit.
Be careful as I think there are a couple of sizes.
If possible take it off and take the original to B&Q or wherever to get the
correct size.

I had to do mine a few weeks back, just take your time and start early am so
if you need to go to B&Q etc you have time.
Best not to do at night when all places are closed.

Bartc wrote:
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"Tim" wrote in message
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"Owain" wrote in message
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On Jan 25, 8:55 pm, "Tim" wrote:
erm.. if thats what the part that is screwed to the wall is
called, then yup

Does it look anything like this?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/how-to-fit-a-toilet

Owain

Thats the sucker Owain. In step 5 those 2 bolt come down from the
costern has water dripping out each time the toilet is flushed. Its
more than a drip its a constant flow of but not gushing.

(I appreciate everyones help and patience with my lack of
DIY/toilet part knowledge and poor describing lol) thanks.



I reckon you need to replace the `doughnut` washer.

If those two bolts come from inside the cistern (see holes in Step
3), why can't it leak from there?

Possibly because the OP said it only leaks when the toilet is flushed. I
would expect the leak to be there all the time if it was via the bolts.

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Adam

On 25/01/2011 23:19, SS wrote:
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On Jan 25, 8:55 pm, "Tim" wrote:
erm.. if thats what the part that is screwed to the wall is called,
then yup

Does it look anything like this?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/how-to-fit-a-toilet

Owain

Thats the sucker Owain. In step 5 those 2 bolt come down from the
costern has water dripping out each time the toilet is flushed. Its more
than a drip its a constant flow of but not gushing.

(I appreciate everyones help and patience with my lack of DIY/toilet
part knowledge and poor describing lol) thanks.



I reckon you need to replace the `doughnut` washer.


I'll have a look for that. Sods law. It was only put in 8 months ago by a
plumber.


Others will confirm for you as I am not a plumber.

But the 2 screws fit onto a bracket and dont enter the cistern.

Not always. On modern cisterns they sometimes go through the base of
the cistern - bloody stupid idea.

If the OP looks into the cistern he may or may not see the screw heads &
tapered rubber washers that this type uses.


So the only bit that can leak is the doughnut. Which is where the water
transfers from the cistern to the bowl.
It is leaking out of that and then finding its way down the 2 screwholes.

Very common - if it uses the bracket fixing.


The washers are only a couple of £s if that, easy to fit.
Be careful as I think there are a couple of sizes.
If possible take it off and take the original to B&Q or wherever to get the
correct size.

More like a couple of types. One is square section, one is rounded over.
As you say, take the old one with you, but a proper plumbers merchant
is a better bet.

I had to do mine a few weeks back, just take your time and start early am so
if you need to go to B&Q etc you have time.
Best not to do at night when all places are closed.

One other thing to check. If it uses the bracket idea, the close
coupling kit


http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plum.../sd2835/p85615


should have bolts that are threaded for their entire length. I bought a
kit from the ******s at Homebase once where the bolts weren't threaded
all the way, making it impossible to tighten up the bolts properly.

All else fails - Plumbers Mait.



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"Tim" wrote in message
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"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message
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Bit of a pain in the bum leak.

Basically where the pan connects up to the backbox ? those two screws on
both side water is leaking from them on both sides everytime I flush. I
tried tightening the the plastic screw thing and one side has stopped
slghtly but the other side no joy.

I'm wondering if maybe a rubber washer inbetween the plastic screw bit
and backbox bas would do it ?

not to good with diy tasks hence the plea for help ?

If you offer details more clearly somebody here will be able to help you.









I'm sorry I'm awful at describing problems.

I'll take a photo perhaps.

Don't be sorry Tim.
I was ****ed up when I wrote that :-)

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On 25/01/2011 23:19, SS wrote:
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On Jan 25, 8:55 pm, "Tim" wrote:
erm.. if thats what the part that is screwed to the wall is called,
then yup

Does it look anything like this?

http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/how-to-fit-a-toilet

Owain

Thats the sucker Owain. In step 5 those 2 bolt come down from the
costern has water dripping out each time the toilet is flushed. Its
more
than a drip its a constant flow of but not gushing.

(I appreciate everyones help and patience with my lack of DIY/toilet
part knowledge and poor describing lol) thanks.



I reckon you need to replace the `doughnut` washer.


I'll have a look for that. Sods law. It was only put in 8 months ago by
a
plumber.


Others will confirm for you as I am not a plumber.

But the 2 screws fit onto a bracket and dont enter the cistern.

Not always. On modern cisterns they sometimes go through the base of the
cistern - bloody stupid idea.

If the OP looks into the cistern he may or may not see the screw heads &
tapered rubber washers that this type uses.


So the only bit that can leak is the doughnut. Which is where the water
transfers from the cistern to the bowl.
It is leaking out of that and then finding its way down the 2 screwholes.

Very common - if it uses the bracket fixing.


The washers are only a couple of £s if that, easy to fit.
Be careful as I think there are a couple of sizes.
If possible take it off and take the original to B&Q or wherever to get
the
correct size.

More like a couple of types. One is square section, one is rounded over.
As you say, take the old one with you, but a proper plumbers merchant is a
better bet.

I had to do mine a few weeks back, just take your time and start early am
so
if you need to go to B&Q etc you have time.
Best not to do at night when all places are closed.

One other thing to check. If it uses the bracket idea, the close coupling
kit


http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plum.../sd2835/p85615

should have bolts that are threaded for their entire length. I bought a
kit from the ******s at Homebase once where the bolts weren't threaded all
the way, making it impossible to tighten up the bolts properly.

All else fails - Plumbers Mait.



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Could it be that the bollard is sticking and overflow pipe is higher than
the screws holding the cistern to the wall??