Hi Group, hope someone can help please.

Yesterday my very elderly (93) living-alone neighbour asked me
to look at a problem she had. The heater in the bathroom no longer worked.
I visited the bathroom (so to speak) and saw the heater mounted high
on the wall (very high ceiling) with a pullcord. Probably at least 30 years
in situ. The element seems to be made of glass - approx 30" in length.
No obvious manufacturer name. No ladder!
No breakers tripped.

Two questions please:
1. If I get up on a ladder, will the element likely be easy to remove?
2. What chance I'll be able to get a replacement (assuming the element is
the problem)?

Any suggestions, comments much appreciated.

Ger

"Ger" wrote in message
...
Hi Group, hope someone can help please.

Yesterday my very elderly (93) living-alone neighbour asked me
to look at a problem she had. The heater in the bathroom no longer
worked.
I visited the bathroom (so to speak) and saw the heater mounted high
on the wall (very high ceiling) with a pullcord. Probably at least 30
years
in situ. The element seems to be made of glass - approx 30" in length.
No obvious manufacturer name. No ladder!
No breakers tripped.

Two questions please:
1. If I get up on a ladder, will the element likely be easy to remove?
2. What chance I'll be able to get a replacement (assuming the element is
the problem)?

Any suggestions, comments much appreciated.

Ger



The radiant heater elements are still available from most electrical
wholesalers, just take the old one with you so they can match it up. They
are normally fixed to the body of the fitting by nuts and bolts. The top
nut will be the one actually holding the element in place, so only undo this
one and try not to loosen the others.

The bolt will be inserted through a ceramic insulator in the body of the
fitting and it is important not to break these as they actually stop the
element connections from shorting out against the casing.

The front grille is easily removed by either unscrewing the little bolts at
the ends, or pressing in the tabs which go through holes in the edges of the
casing.

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:25:11 -0000, "Ger"
wrote:

Two questions please:
1. If I get up on a ladder, will the element likely be easy to remove?
2. What chance I'll be able to get a replacement (assuming the element is
the problem)?

You might like to look at the elements on TLC Direct:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Ind...ers/index.html

PoP

In article ,
BigWallop writes

"Ger" wrote in message
...
Hi Group, hope someone can help please.

Yesterday my very elderly (93) living-alone neighbour asked me
to look at a problem she had. The heater in the bathroom no longer
worked.
I visited the bathroom (so to speak) and saw the heater mounted high
on the wall (very high ceiling) with a pullcord. Probably at least 30
years
in situ. The element seems to be made of glass - approx 30" in length.
No obvious manufacturer name. No ladder!
No breakers tripped.

Two questions please:
1. If I get up on a ladder, will the element likely be easy to remove?
2. What chance I'll be able to get a replacement (assuming the element is
the problem)?

Any suggestions, comments much appreciated.

Ger



The radiant heater elements are still available from most electrical
wholesalers, just take the old one with you so they can match it up. They
are normally fixed to the body of the fitting by nuts and bolts. The top
nut will be the one actually holding the element in place, so only undo this
one and try not to loosen the others.

The bolt will be inserted through a ceramic insulator in the body of the
fitting and it is important not to break these as they actually stop the
element connections from shorting out against the casing.

The front grille is easily removed by either unscrewing the little bolts at
the ends, or pressing in the tabs which go through holes in the edges of the
casing.

You may still be able to get the wire element bit on it's own, you certainly
used too. Wattage as a function of length or per the spec plate that will
prob be on the back of the fitting.
--
fred

In article , PoP E--
writes
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:25:11 -0000, "Ger"
wrote:

Two questions please:
1. If I get up on a ladder, will the element likely be easy to remove?
2. What chance I'll be able to get a replacement (assuming the element is
the problem)?

You might like to look at the elements on TLC Direct:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Ind...ers/index.html

PoP

Marked 'fragile' I notice, the silica glass is very easily broken, esp after a
life of heating & cooling. Also 12 quid, a good reason to get just the wire
elem, sold coiled up in a packet.
--
fred

fred. PoP, BigWallop, many thanks. Think I'll tackle it!! :-)

Now, being a bit slow. The site you reference
tells me I can buy the Wall Heater (expensive option) or just the (fragile)
Element (cheaper option).

But then Fred adds:

"......Also 12 quid, a good reason to get just the wire elem, sold coiled up
in a packet"

What, what, is this a third option??? Explain please!

Ger



"Ger" wrote in message
...
Hi Group, hope someone can help please.

Yesterday my very elderly (93) living-alone neighbour asked me
to look at a problem she had. The heater in the bathroom no longer
worked.
I visited the bathroom (so to speak) and saw the heater mounted high
on the wall (very high ceiling) with a pullcord. Probably at least 30
years
in situ. The element seems to be made of glass - approx 30" in length.
No obvious manufacturer name. No ladder!
No breakers tripped.

Two questions please:
1. If I get up on a ladder, will the element likely be easy to remove?
2. What chance I'll be able to get a replacement (assuming the element is
the problem)?

Any suggestions, comments much appreciated.

Ger

In article , Ger
writes
fred. PoP, BigWallop, many thanks. Think I'll tackle it!! :-)

Now, being a bit slow. The site you reference
tells me I can buy the Wall Heater (expensive option) or just the (fragile)
Element (cheaper option).

But then Fred adds:

"......Also 12 quid, a good reason to get just the wire elem, sold coiled up
in a packet"

What, what, is this a third option??? Explain please!

Yes, you can (could) just buy the coiled heating wire and rewire the glass
tube (easy job). The element wire is a stretched coil down the length of the
glass tube. These _used_ to be available from the little electrical shops
you found in high streets all over the place. Finding a supplier these days
may be a little more problematic. It's a while since I had to do one in this
way, so can't recommend a supplier or indeed say for sure that you can
still just buy the wire.
--
fred

Fred, many thanks. All is now crystal clear. Will go hunt for the wire
and failing that the full element.

Thanks again

Ger

"fred" wrote in message ...
In article , Ger
writes

What, what, is this a third option??? Explain please!

Yes, you can (could) just buy the coiled heating wire and rewire the glass
tube (easy job). The element wire is a stretched coil down the length of
the
glass tube. These _used_ to be available from the little electrical shops
you found in high streets all over the place. Finding a supplier these
days
may be a little more problematic. It's a while since I had to do one in
this
way, so can't recommend a supplier or indeed say for sure that you can
still just buy the wire.
--
fred

Ger wrote:

Fred, many thanks. All is now crystal clear. Will go hunt for the wire
and failing that the full element.

Thanks again

Ger

"fred" wrote in message ...
In article , Ger
writes

What, what, is this a third option??? Explain please!

Yes, you can (could) just buy the coiled heating wire and rewire the glass
tube (easy job). The element wire is a stretched coil down the length of
the
glass tube. These _used_ to be available from the little electrical shops
you found in high streets all over the place. Finding a supplier these
days
may be a little more problematic. It's a while since I had to do one in
this
way, so can't recommend a supplier or indeed say for sure that you can
still just buy the wire.
--
fred

Hi Ger,

Try CPC at
http://custom1.farnell.com/cpc/produ...ct%5Fid=270925

Make sure you get all the URL. VAT is extra but usually very keen prices.

They have a post free threshold of £30 vat ex but sell so much useful stuff, I
find it difficult not to spend £30!!

If desparate you can allways fill up the order with vacuum cleaner bags or some
other consumable items

Thanks Bob, that'll be Plan B :-))

"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Hi Ger,

Try CPC at

http://custom1.farnell.com/cpc/produ...ct%5Fid=270925

Make sure you get all the URL. VAT is extra but usually very keen prices.

They have a post free threshold of £30 vat ex but sell so much useful
stuff, I
find it difficult not to spend £30!!

If desparate you can allways fill up the order with vacuum cleaner bags or
some
other consumable items

In conclusion . . .

I measured the damn element and it's 24" between fitting points.

All the elements on that Farnell/CPC web site are metric :-(((((((((((((

Ger