I think this may be quite close to the recent thread on Junction Boxes
but I wasn't *quite* clear what was being described there.

I very often need to connect multiple wires to one circuit (well, more
likely multiple pairs/T&Es ) and 'ordinary' junction boxes really
aren't very well suited to this.

Are there any junction boxes that come equipped with three/four/five
terminal 'mini busbars' to make it easy to connect multiple wires
together?

--
Chris Green

On 15/11/2010 21:39, wrote:
I think this may be quite close to the recent thread on Junction Boxes
but I wasn't *quite* clear what was being described there.

I very often need to connect multiple wires to one circuit (well, more
likely multiple pairs/T&Es ) and 'ordinary' junction boxes really
aren't very well suited to this.

Are there any junction boxes that come equipped with three/four/five
terminal 'mini busbars' to make it easy to connect multiple wires
together?


Definately MK series on this page.
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Cable_Accessories_Index/Junction_Boxes/index.html

I don't like the others, the wires either jump out when ye are fiddling
with it and when ye tighten the screw enough to stop that, the brass
sides give way (if unsupported by plastic) and the whole lot jumps out.

Or something like that.

Or perhaps it's just me.

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Adrian C

Adrian C wrote:
On 15/11/2010 21:39, wrote:
I think this may be quite close to the recent thread on Junction Boxes
but I wasn't *quite* clear what was being described there.

I very often need to connect multiple wires to one circuit (well, more
likely multiple pairs/T&Es ) and 'ordinary' junction boxes really
aren't very well suited to this.

Are there any junction boxes that come equipped with three/four/five
terminal 'mini busbars' to make it easy to connect multiple wires
together?


Definately MK series on this page.
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Cable_Accessories_Index/Junction_Boxes/index.html

Ah, I'd not spotted those before, just what I'm after.


I don't like the others, the wires either jump out when ye are fiddling
with it and when ye tighten the screw enough to stop that, the brass
sides give way (if unsupported by plastic) and the whole lot jumps out.

Or something like that.

Or perhaps it's just me.

No, it's not just you! :-)

--
Chris Green

On 15/11/10 21:39, wrote:
I think this may be quite close to the recent thread on Junction Boxes
but I wasn't *quite* clear what was being described there.

I very often need to connect multiple wires to one circuit (well, more
likely multiple pairs/T&Es ) and 'ordinary' junction boxes really
aren't very well suited to this.

Are there any junction boxes that come equipped with three/four/five
terminal 'mini busbars' to make it easy to connect multiple wires
together?


Wago connectors go upto either 6 or 8 way.

If you want to be posh, din rail and RS din terminals with a commoning bar.

--
Tim Watts

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:39:15 +0000 wrote :
I think this may be quite close to the recent thread on Junction
Boxes but I wasn't *quite* clear what was being described there.

I very often need to connect multiple wires to one circuit (well,
more likely multiple pairs/T&Es ) and 'ordinary' junction boxes
really aren't very well suited to this.

Are there any junction boxes that come equipped with
three/four/five terminal 'mini busbars' to make it easy to connect
multiple wires together?

When I rewired the heating controls at my old church in Twickenham I
located connectors that fitted on a DIN rail which I put in a large
insulated box. Each connector had six male 6.4mm spade (Lucar) blades
all connected, three at the top, three at the bottom, whole thing
about 12mm wide. I needed about 30 in total (two boilers, several
stats). It made for a nice easy and tidy job as each core could be
connected in turn.

Sorry I can't find a web reference - will be buried in Farnell or RS
site somewhere. Perhaps someone else can help.

--
Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on' Melbourne, Australia
www.superbeam.co.uk www.eurobeam.co.uk www.greentram.com

Tony Bryer wrote:
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:39:15 +0000 wrote :
I think this may be quite close to the recent thread on Junction
Boxes but I wasn't *quite* clear what was being described there.

I very often need to connect multiple wires to one circuit (well,
more likely multiple pairs/T&Es ) and 'ordinary' junction boxes
really aren't very well suited to this.

Are there any junction boxes that come equipped with
three/four/five terminal 'mini busbars' to make it easy to connect
multiple wires together?

When I rewired the heating controls at my old church in Twickenham I
located connectors that fitted on a DIN rail which I put in a large
insulated box. Each connector had six male 6.4mm spade (Lucar) blades
all connected, three at the top, three at the bottom, whole thing
about 12mm wide. I needed about 30 in total (two boilers, several
stats). It made for a nice easy and tidy job as each core could be
connected in turn.

Sorry I can't find a web reference - will be buried in Farnell or RS
site somewhere. Perhaps someone else can help.

I already use the lucar connectors where they are appropriate but they
don't really lend themselves to wiring in the equivalent of junction
boxes.

--
Chris Green

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:08:45 +0000 wrote :
I already use the lucar connectors where they are appropriate but
they don't really lend themselves to wiring in the equivalent of
junction boxes.

I used a big CU-sized insulated box so lots of room. Even put a list of
what was what on the underside of the lid to help the next guy g

--
Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on' Melbourne, Australia
www.superbeam.co.uk www.eurobeam.co.uk www.greentram.com

Tony Bryer wrote:
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:08:45 +0000 wrote :
I already use the lucar connectors where they are appropriate but
they don't really lend themselves to wiring in the equivalent of
junction boxes.

I used a big CU-sized insulated box so lots of room. Even put a list of
what was what on the underside of the lid to help the next guy g

Yes, where I have used them there's lots of space, but it's not
appropriate in a situation where there's really only space for an
ordinary style junction box or something similar.

--
Chris Green

On Nov 15, 9:39*pm, wrote:

Are there any junction boxes that come equipped with three/four/five
terminal 'mini busbars' to make it easy to connect multiple wires
together?

Wago connectors. More compact than choc block, easier to fit, more
reliable and they're great for commoning.

Andy Dingley wrote:
On Nov 15, 9:39Â*pm, wrote:

Are there any junction boxes that come equipped with three/four/five
terminal 'mini busbars' to make it easy to connect multiple wires
together?

Wago connectors. More compact than choc block, easier to fit, more
reliable and they're great for commoning.

Yes, as recommended by someone else as well, they look like just what
I need. It's especially true in one application (on boat) where I'm
using round arctic cable and can anchor the cables with nylon glands
as they go into suitable boxes.

One needs to take account of the cable anchoring requirement but,
apart from that, they look excellent (and pretty inexpesive).

--
Chris Green

wrote:
Andy Dingley wrote:
On Nov 15, 9:39 pm, wrote:

Are there any junction boxes that come equipped with three/four/five
terminal 'mini busbars' to make it easy to connect multiple wires
together?
Wago connectors. More compact than choc block, easier to fit, more
reliable and they're great for commoning.

Yes, as recommended by someone else as well, they look like just what
I need. It's especially true in one application (on boat) where I'm
using round arctic cable and can anchor the cables with nylon glands
as they go into suitable boxes.

One needs to take account of the cable anchoring requirement but,
apart from that, they look excellent (and pretty inexpesive).


Better still, if for marine use or anywhere you're concerned about damp
or corrosion, you can strip the cable and then liberally coat it with
silicone grease. Stuff it the hole and the spring clip will scrape off
the grease where it makes a connection. You can also fill any empty
holes in the Wago block with silicone grease.

Buy it off Ebay for best value.