Hi, summer is here and so are the wasps. Lat year I had a nest under
the bedroom window that had to be got rid of as they seemed to enjoy
invading the bedroom at night, probably the light and warmth?

Any way this year they are under the garden shed, metal shipping
container. They are far away enough from the house not to be a problem
but I think that I just pi**ed them off by going into the shed to get
the lawn mower. Their entrance is under the shed in front of the door,
so when they came out in force to see who was pounding on their ceiling
I had to go through them to get out of the shed. No problem this time
and as long as it stays that way they can stay where they are. But if
they become a nuisance then I'm looking for cheap ways to get rid of
them. OK kill them.

The council do a good job at £40:00 a time but I'm a cheap skate and
would prefer DiY methods.

I'm of the opinion that the underside of the shed is strong enough to
withstand a small fuel/air explosion, but my wife's not so sure.
2nd idea is a CO2 extinguisher, I have a couple that are old and,
although still weigh OK, have not been tested for some years. I am
seriously wondering what effect one, or maybe two, of these emptied into
the nest would do?

Any other DiY ideas?

Or should I just call the council again?

There is no urgency on this at the moment unless they object more
fiercely next time I go into the shed.


--
Bill

On 01/08/2010 20:15, Bill wrote:

I'm of the opinion that the underside of the shed is strong enough to
withstand a small fuel/air explosion, but my wife's not so sure.
2nd idea is a CO2 extinguisher, I have a couple that are old and,
although still weigh OK, have not been tested for some years. I am
seriously wondering what effect one, or maybe two, of these emptied into
the nest would do?

**** them off some more, which won't be good!

Nippon Ant Powder (or Poundshop equivalent) into/on the nest or
scattered on takeoff/landing areas, or a wasp spray foam.

In a few days if done OK, they'll be dead.

--
Adrian C

In message , Bill
writes
Hi, summer is here and so are the wasps. Lat year I had a nest under
the bedroom window that had to be got rid of as they seemed to enjoy
invading the bedroom at night, probably the light and warmth?

Any way this year they are under the garden shed, metal shipping
container. They are far away enough from the house not to be a problem
but I think that I just pi**ed them off by going into the shed to get
the lawn mower. Their entrance is under the shed in front of the door,
so when they came out in force to see who was pounding on their ceiling
I had to go through them to get out of the shed. No problem this time
and as long as it stays that way they can stay where they are. But if
they become a nuisance then I'm looking for cheap ways to get rid of
them. OK kill them.

The council do a good job at £40:00 a time but I'm a cheap skate and
would prefer DiY methods.

I'm of the opinion that the underside of the shed is strong enough to
withstand a small fuel/air explosion, but my wife's not so sure.
2nd idea is a CO2 extinguisher, I have a couple that are old and,
although still weigh OK, have not been tested for some years. I am
seriously wondering what effect one, or maybe two, of these emptied
into the nest would do?

Any other DiY ideas?

I was just going to post a "who are the wasp huggers" post as one
crawled down my t-shirt and stung the back of my neck

Wasps are easy - just spray nippon powder around where they enter

that's it

all you need

nothing more

forget all the crap that certain others are going to post about sprays,
potions and morris dancers

- Nippon powder


--
geoff

On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 20:15:15 +0100, Bill wrote:

There is no urgency on this at the moment unless they object more
fiercely next time I go into the shed.

Glad to see that you are willing to let them live unless they become
a nuisance, far too many people go for a full nuclear strike straight
away.

Nippon powder as mentioned will work, liberal application around/in
their entrance hole and they'll be dead in a few days. If you want
something a bit quicker squirt 'em, with kerosene (no need for
ignition) that will kill them in a few minutes but unless you can get
directly at the nest and open it up you may not get them all, Nippon
will.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:15:15 +0100, Bill wrote:
Any way this year they are under the garden shed, metal shipping
container.

Do you have line-of-sight to the nest? I find that the Raid aerosol stuff
works really well and can blast the nest from around 8' away - if it's a
big nest I usually hit it with something (last week's was a 12' section
of guttering :-) and then come back at dusk with the raid when the wasps
are less active.

(I assume Raid is available in the UK. It's about $5 here, which is what,
around 3 quid or so?)

cheers

Jules

On 2010-08-02 13:22:49 +0100, Jules Richardson said:

On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:15:15 +0100, Bill wrote:
Any way this year they are under the garden shed, metal shipping
container.

Do you have line-of-sight to the nest? I find that the Raid aerosol stuff
works really well and can blast the nest from around 8' away - if it's a
big nest I usually hit it with something (last week's was a 12' section
of guttering :-) and then come back at dusk with the raid when the wasps
are less active.


Is there some complicated reason why you hit the nest before "raid"ing
it? Like ****ing the wasps off tires them out for when you come back
later?

(Or is it just so you can reach it? I ask beause I have a small nest
to do the honours with and I'm a bit of a wimp when it comes to wasps.
However, I might just risk using some stuff from 8' away.)


(I assume Raid is available in the UK. It's about $5 here, which is what,
around 3 quid or so?)

cheers

Jules

On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:08:13 +0100, Piers Finlayson wrote:

On 2010-08-02 13:22:49 +0100, Jules Richardson said:

On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:15:15 +0100, Bill wrote:
Any way this year they are under the garden shed, metal shipping
container.

Do you have line-of-sight to the nest? I find that the Raid aerosol
stuff works really well and can blast the nest from around 8' away - if
it's a big nest I usually hit it with something (last week's was a 12'
section of guttering :-) and then come back at dusk with the raid when
the wasps are less active.


Is there some complicated reason why you hit the nest before "raid"ing
it? Like ****ing the wasps off tires them out for when you come back
later?

It was a basketball-sized nest, so it was partly that I figured the raid
would get to the inside of the nest better if it was broken open. Part of
it was also observation that wasps seem to start rebuilding as soon as
their nest is damaged, so yes I did wonder if it'd tire them out and make
them less likely to come after me when I did blast them! The nest was
about 10' off the ground, so I had to be reasonably close for the raid to
reach them.

Whether that's sound logic, I'm not sure ;-)

(Or is it just so you can reach it? I ask beause I have a small nest to
do the honours with and I'm a bit of a wimp when it comes to wasps.
However, I might just risk using some stuff from 8' away.)

For small nests I usually just spray them with raid - no breaking open or
anything. Spray 'em at night and there always seems to be zero activity
by the morning.

cheers

Jules

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 20:15:15 +0100, Bill wrote:

There is no urgency on this at the moment unless they object more
fiercely next time I go into the shed.

Glad to see that you are willing to let them live unless they become
a nuisance, far too many people go for a full nuclear strike straight
away.

I've always hated the buggers. The old "don't annoy them and they won't
sting you" is rubbish. One stung me just behind the ear last year, whilst
eating out of doors. I did absolutely nothing to wind it up. One minute I've
got a sausage roll in my hand, the next minute I'm clutching my ear
wondering what happened.

JW

On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:54:43 +0100, John Whitworth wrote:

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 20:15:15 +0100, Bill wrote:

There is no urgency on this at the moment unless they object more
fiercely next time I go into the shed.

Glad to see that you are willing to let them live unless they become a
nuisance, far too many people go for a full nuclear strike straight
away.

I've always hated the buggers.

I don't mind them too much myself, but my boy's allergic to stings, so
better safe than sorry...

The old "don't annoy them and they won't sting you" is rubbish.

Funny thing is, I remember them in the UK feeding on rotting apples as a
kid and then going a bit mental - is it true that they get drunk, or is
that just a myth (and the effects are either imagined or due to some
other circumstances)?

It doesn't seem to happen with the breeds of wasp we get here in the US -
some types are more aggressive than others, but they don't seem to change
behaviour throughout the year.

cheers

Jules

In message , Jules Richardson
writes
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:15:15 +0100, Bill wrote:
Any way this year they are under the garden shed, metal shipping
container.

Do you have line-of-sight to the nest? I find that the Raid aerosol stuff
works really well and can blast the nest from around 8' away - if it's a
big nest I usually hit it with something (last week's was a 12' section
of guttering :-) and then come back at dusk with the raid when the wasps
are less active.

(I assume Raid is available in the UK. It's about $5 here, which is what,
around 3 quid or so?)

Yes, but not the industrial strength stuff which seems to be available
where H&S is less of a problem


--
geoff

In message , John Whitworth
writes


"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ill.co.uk...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 20:15:15 +0100, Bill wrote:

There is no urgency on this at the moment unless they object more
fiercely next time I go into the shed.

Glad to see that you are willing to let them live unless they become
a nuisance, far too many people go for a full nuclear strike straight
away.

I've always hated the buggers. The old "don't annoy them and they won't
sting you" is rubbish. One stung me just behind the ear last year,
whilst eating out of doors. I did absolutely nothing to wind it up. One
minute I've got a sausage roll in my hand, the next minute I'm
clutching my ear wondering what happened.

LAst year?

Try yesterday

walking across the garden to feed the fish, ******* just stung me

--
geoff

In message , Jules Richardson
writes
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:54:43 +0100, John Whitworth wrote:

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 20:15:15 +0100, Bill wrote:

There is no urgency on this at the moment unless they object more
fiercely next time I go into the shed.

Glad to see that you are willing to let them live unless they become a
nuisance, far too many people go for a full nuclear strike straight
away.

I've always hated the buggers.

I don't mind them too much myself, but my boy's allergic to stings, so
better safe than sorry...

The old "don't annoy them and they won't sting you" is rubbish.

Funny thing is, I remember them in the UK feeding on rotting apples as a
kid and then going a bit mental - is it true that they get drunk, or is
that just a myth (and the effects are either imagined or due to some
other circumstances)?


Err ... nowhere near fruit season yet


--
geoff

On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:45:33 +0100, geoff wrote:
Funny thing is, I remember them in the UK feeding on rotting apples as a
kid and then going a bit mental - is it true that they get drunk, or is
that just a myth (and the effects are either imagined or due to some
other circumstances)?


Err ... nowhere near fruit season yet

I didn't say it was - just curious about the whole "drunk wasp" thing,
and whether it's fruit-related, or seasonal, or just imagination.

We get plenty of plums and apples in the garden here, but I've not seen
wasps getting more agressive around the time they feed on fallen fruit -
but the ones we have here are doubtless a different type (certainly a lot
less yellow in them than the ones I recall in the UK).

cheers

Jules

On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:11:28 +0100, geoff wrote:
(I assume Raid is available in the UK. It's about $5 here, which is
what, around 3 quid or so?)

Yes, but not the industrial strength stuff which seems to be available
where H&S is less of a problem

Aha, that probably makes a difference. I've never known the stuff fail
(although it is available in several types, and I think only one is rated
for killing nests, rather than simply killing a few wasps).

(I have a can here somewhere, just in case OP wants to check availability
there against the stuff I usually use)

cheers

Jules

On 03/08/2010 14:39, Jules Richardson wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:45:33 +0100, geoff wrote:
Funny thing is, I remember them in the UK feeding on rotting apples as a
kid and then going a bit mental - is it true that they get drunk, or is
that just a myth (and the effects are either imagined or due to some
other circumstances)?


Err ... nowhere near fruit season yet

I didn't say it was - just curious about the whole "drunk wasp" thing,
and whether it's fruit-related, or seasonal, or just imagination.

We get plenty of plums and apples in the garden here, but I've not seen
wasps getting more agressive around the time they feed on fallen fruit -
but the ones we have here are doubtless a different type (certainly a lot
less yellow in them than the ones I recall in the UK).

cheers

Jules


I don't think fruit makes them more aggressive - it just makes them more
dozy, so that you're more likely to put your hand on one that is
crawling on something, and get stung. You have to be *very* careful when
picking apples which have been pecked by birds because there will likely
be one or more wasps in each crater.
--
Cheers,
Roger
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Bill wrote:
Hi, summer is here and so are the wasps. Lat year I had a nest under
the bedroom window that had to be got rid of as they seemed to enjoy
invading the bedroom at night, probably the light and warmth?

Any way this year they are under the garden shed, metal shipping
container. They are far away enough from the house not to be a problem
but I think that I just pi**ed them off by going into the shed to get
the lawn mower. Their entrance is under the shed in front of the door,
so when they came out in force to see who was pounding on their ceiling
I had to go through them to get out of the shed. No problem this time
and as long as it stays that way they can stay where they are. But if
they become a nuisance then I'm looking for cheap ways to get rid of
them. OK kill them.

The council do a good job at £40:00 a time but I'm a cheap skate and
would prefer DiY methods.

I'm of the opinion that the underside of the shed is strong enough to
withstand a small fuel/air explosion, but my wife's not so sure.
2nd idea is a CO2 extinguisher, I have a couple that are old and,
although still weigh OK, have not been tested for some years. I am
seriously wondering what effect one, or maybe two, of these emptied into
the nest would do?

Any other DiY ideas?

Or should I just call the council again?

There is no urgency on this at the moment unless they object more
fiercely next time I go into the shed.




Leave them alone they do more good than harm.

OP: Early on in the season, they can be quite placcid. Now, as we
enter Aug-Sep, wasps are getting really quite aggressive. I assume you
have checked to see if they are in fact wasps and not hornets (the
latter can be more aggressive, chase lights and so on).

1 - Wait for late evening on a cool day - the bulk of the insects will
be back at the nest at that point.

2 - If you can get close, use the spray foam, otherwise the various
spray powders (Nippon, Rentokil).

They take the powder into the nest and are dead the next day. You need
to get the powder in a position where they crawl through it re
entrance to the nest.

Due to the time of year, tread carefully.
Wait for night, approach slowly, use the spray foam from a distance,
do not swat any because they can swarm. You can buy an instant kill
spray which you are supposed to spray at them if any do fly at you, I
do not think it is fast enough and you actually need to contact NORAD
in that situation for a few LGB. Just light the shed with a laser and
all will be fine.

If you find any flying about the next day, there is probably another
nest nearby (someone else's garden, nearby street trees) so you can
never really get rid of them.

js.b1 wrote:
OP: Early on in the season, they can be quite placcid.

Is that supposed to be flaccid or plAcid?

On 3 Aug, 16:56, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
js.b1 wrote:
OP: Early on in the season, they can be quite placcid.

Is that supposed to be flaccid or plAcid?

Placid :-)

In message
,
js.b1 writes
OP: Early on in the season, they can be quite placcid. Now, as we
enter Aug-Sep, wasps are getting really quite aggressive. I assume you
have checked to see if they are in fact wasps and not hornets (the
latter can be more aggressive, chase lights and so on).

1 - Wait for late evening on a cool day - the bulk of the insects will
be back at the nest at that point.

2 - If you can get close, use the spray foam, otherwise the various
spray powders (Nippon, Rentokil).

They take the powder into the nest and are dead the next day. You need
to get the powder in a position where they crawl through it re
entrance to the nest.

Due to the time of year, tread carefully.
Wait for night, approach slowly, use the spray foam from a distance,
do not swat any because they can swarm. You can buy an instant kill
spray which you are supposed to spray at them if any do fly at you, I
do not think it is fast enough and you actually need to contact NORAD
in that situation for a few LGB. Just light the shed with a laser and
all will be fine.

If you find any flying about the next day, there is probably another
nest nearby (someone else's garden, nearby street trees) so you can
never really get rid of them.

No - there are always a few that were AWOL when the powder was
introduced and can't understand where their mates have gone

They fly around for a couple of days or so


--
geoff

"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , John Whitworth
writes


"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
hill.co.uk...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 20:15:15 +0100, Bill wrote:

There is no urgency on this at the moment unless they object more
fiercely next time I go into the shed.

Glad to see that you are willing to let them live unless they become
a nuisance, far too many people go for a full nuclear strike straight
away.

I've always hated the buggers. The old "don't annoy them and they won't
sting you" is rubbish. One stung me just behind the ear last year, whilst
eating out of doors. I did absolutely nothing to wind it up. One minute
I've got a sausage roll in my hand, the next minute I'm clutching my ear
wondering what happened.

LAst year?

Try yesterday

walking across the garden to feed the fish, ******* just stung me

--

I hate those fish that sting.

mark

In message , mark
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , John Whitworth
writes


"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
whill.co.uk...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 20:15:15 +0100, Bill wrote:

There is no urgency on this at the moment unless they object more
fiercely next time I go into the shed.

Glad to see that you are willing to let them live unless they become
a nuisance, far too many people go for a full nuclear strike straight
away.

I've always hated the buggers. The old "don't annoy them and they won't
sting you" is rubbish. One stung me just behind the ear last year, whilst
eating out of doors. I did absolutely nothing to wind it up. One minute
I've got a sausage roll in my hand, the next minute I'm clutching my ear
wondering what happened.

LAst year?

Try yesterday

walking across the garden to feed the fish, ******* just stung me

--

I hate those fish that sting.

*******s, they are


--
geoff

On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:58:18 +0100, geoff wrote:
walking across the garden to feed the fish, ******* just stung me

--

I hate those fish that sting.

*******s, they are

******* stinging land-fish!