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I have managed to break a panel on one of our kitchen unit doors:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...t=d irectlink Does anyone here who does more of these things, know if this design is still around? I think it was a 'limed oak effect' and that it may have originally come from Magnet & Southern. Is this likely to be replaceable with a match or near match, or does one have to change the whole set of frontages to 'repair' such damage? Much appreciate any pointers at where I might get a replacement. Cheers, S |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:16:27 +0100, Spamlet wrote:
I have managed to break a panel on one of our kitchen unit doors: Is that panel a bit of real wood? It looks as if it might be from the picture, as the splits seem to follow a grain and I wouldn't expect MDF or other maufactured timber to split like that. If so you may be able to glue the edges back together, be a lot easier to do if you can get the panel out of the frame to get a cramp across it. It looks to held in with the beading on the front but if you disturb the limewash in the corners it might be fun getting that back. I suspect the back is a rebate in the frame. Does anyone here who does more of these things, know if this design is still around? The shed/kitchen unit suplliers web sites are probably your best bet. Unless someone can come up with the style name and maker. -- Cheers Dave. |
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![]() "Spamlet" wrote in message ... I have managed to break a panel on one of our kitchen unit doors: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...t=d irectlink Does anyone here who does more of these things, know if this design is still around? I think it was a 'limed oak effect' and that it may have originally come from Magnet & Southern. Correction: SWMBO says it was from Wickes. Is this likely to be replaceable with a match or near match, or does one have to change the whole set of frontages to 'repair' such damage? Much appreciate any pointers at where I might get a replacement. Cheers, S |
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![]() "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:16:27 +0100, Spamlet wrote: I have managed to break a panel on one of our kitchen unit doors: Is that panel a bit of real wood? It looks as if it might be from the picture, as the splits seem to follow a grain and I wouldn't expect MDF or other maufactured timber to split like that. If so you may be able to glue the edges back together, be a lot easier to do if you can get the panel out of the frame to get a cramp across it. It looks to held in with the beading on the front but if you disturb the limewash in the corners it might be fun getting that back. I suspect the back is a rebate in the frame. Does anyone here who does more of these things, know if this design is still around? The shed/kitchen unit suplliers web sites are probably your best bet. Unless someone can come up with the style name and maker. -- Cheers Dave. Well it was so brittle I didn't really look at it as if it was wood, but now you mention it, closer inspection shows it to be some kind of wood, but the finish is a sort of lacquer film on the top. So many little bits have shaken off the edges that it would probably always look wrong if I tried to stick it back together I'm afraid. As in my post script, it was originally from Wickes, but they didn't seem to have anything like it the last time I looked (I'll see if there website says anything - but I did try to get an additional glass fronted unit from them once before, without success.) Cheers, S |
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![]() "Spamlet" wrote in message ... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:16:27 +0100, Spamlet wrote: I have managed to break a panel on one of our kitchen unit doors: Is that panel a bit of real wood? It looks as if it might be from the picture, as the splits seem to follow a grain and I wouldn't expect MDF or other maufactured timber to split like that. If so you may be able to glue the edges back together, be a lot easier to do if you can get the panel out of the frame to get a cramp across it. It looks to held in with the beading on the front but if you disturb the limewash in the corners it might be fun getting that back. I suspect the back is a rebate in the frame. Does anyone here who does more of these things, know if this design is still around? The shed/kitchen unit suplliers web sites are probably your best bet. Unless someone can come up with the style name and maker. -- Cheers Dave. Well it was so brittle I didn't really look at it as if it was wood, but now you mention it, closer inspection shows it to be some kind of wood, but the finish is a sort of lacquer film on the top. So many little bits have shaken off the edges that it would probably always look wrong if I tried to stick it back together I'm afraid. As in my post script, it was originally from Wickes, but they didn't seem to have anything like it the last time I looked (I'll see if there website says anything - but I did try to get an additional glass fronted unit from them once before, without success.) Cheers, S Found what looks like the finish... 'heavily limed oak': http://www.kitchenrefurbs.co.uk/pdf/doorslide.pdf Getting warmer... S |
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On 28/07/2010 20:16, Spamlet wrote:
I have managed to break a panel on one of our kitchen unit doors: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...t=d irectlink Does anyone here who does more of these things, know if this design is still around? I think it was a 'limed oak effect' and that it may have originally come from Magnet& Southern. Is this likely to be replaceable with a match or near match, or does one have to change the whole set of frontages to 'repair' such damage? Much appreciate any pointers at where I might get a replacement. Cheers, Wife bought a new fitted bedroom a couple of years ago from a company called creative joinery. Forget them, but what they used to do was machine the doors out of whatever they were made of and send them to a company that shrink wrapped the laminate onto it. If you can find a similar Co. in your area, they might be able to help. Dave |
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![]() "dave" wrote in message ... On 28/07/2010 20:16, Spamlet wrote: I have managed to break a panel on one of our kitchen unit doors: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...t=d irectlink Does anyone here who does more of these things, know if this design is still around? I think it was a 'limed oak effect' and that it may have originally come from Magnet& Southern. Is this likely to be replaceable with a match or near match, or does one have to change the whole set of frontages to 'repair' such damage? Much appreciate any pointers at where I might get a replacement. Cheers, Wife bought a new fitted bedroom a couple of years ago from a company called creative joinery. Forget them, but what they used to do was machine the doors out of whatever they were made of and send them to a company that shrink wrapped the laminate onto it. If you can find a similar Co. in your area, they might be able to help. Dave Thanks Dave, Since my first post, other comments have made me realise these are wood panelled in oak, but the finish looks to be some clever lacquer effect rather than a laminate per se. I've emailed a few co's and am awaiting responses (if any: I find a lot of places don't seem to respond to email all that reliably.) Cheers, S |
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"Spamlet" wrote in message ... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:16:27 +0100, Spamlet wrote: I have managed to break a panel on one of our kitchen unit doors: Is that panel a bit of real wood? It looks as if it might be from the picture, as the splits seem to follow a grain and I wouldn't expect MDF or other maufactured timber to split like that. If so you may be able to glue the edges back together, be a lot easier to do if you can get the panel out of the frame to get a cramp across it. It looks to held in with the beading on the front but if you disturb the limewash in the corners it might be fun getting that back. I suspect the back is a rebate in the frame. Does anyone here who does more of these things, know if this design is still around? The shed/kitchen unit suplliers web sites are probably your best bet. Unless someone can come up with the style name and maker. -- Cheers Dave. Well it was so brittle I didn't really look at it as if it was wood, but now you mention it, closer inspection shows it to be some kind of wood, but the finish is a sort of lacquer film on the top. So many little bits have shaken off the edges that it would probably always look wrong if I tried to stick it back together I'm afraid. As in my post script, it was originally from Wickes, but they didn't seem to have anything like it the last time I looked (I'll see if there website says anything - but I did try to get an additional glass fronted unit from them once before, without success.) Cheers, S Found what looks like the finish... 'heavily limed oak': http://www.kitchenrefurbs.co.uk/pdf/doorslide.pdf Getting warmer... I've used those people in the past. Highly reccommended. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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![]() "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message news:B234o.374882$Hs4.185967@hurricane... Spamlet wrote: "Spamlet" wrote in message ... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:16:27 +0100, Spamlet wrote: I have managed to break a panel on one of our kitchen unit doors: Is that panel a bit of real wood? It looks as if it might be from the picture, as the splits seem to follow a grain and I wouldn't expect MDF or other maufactured timber to split like that. If so you may be able to glue the edges back together, be a lot easier to do if you can get the panel out of the frame to get a cramp across it. It looks to held in with the beading on the front but if you disturb the limewash in the corners it might be fun getting that back. I suspect the back is a rebate in the frame. Does anyone here who does more of these things, know if this design is still around? The shed/kitchen unit suplliers web sites are probably your best bet. Unless someone can come up with the style name and maker. -- Cheers Dave. Well it was so brittle I didn't really look at it as if it was wood, but now you mention it, closer inspection shows it to be some kind of wood, but the finish is a sort of lacquer film on the top. So many little bits have shaken off the edges that it would probably always look wrong if I tried to stick it back together I'm afraid. As in my post script, it was originally from Wickes, but they didn't seem to have anything like it the last time I looked (I'll see if there website says anything - but I did try to get an additional glass fronted unit from them once before, without success.) Cheers, S Found what looks like the finish... 'heavily limed oak': http://www.kitchenrefurbs.co.uk/pdf/doorslide.pdf Getting warmer... I've used those people in the past. Highly reccommended. Dave - The Medway Handyman Ta for the tip. S |
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If you simply cannot obtain a match, would it be possible to convert
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![]() "1501" wrote in message ... If you simply cannot obtain a match, would it be possible to convert it to a glazed door? Maybe swap it around with another similar sized door. Until you find a replacement I would attempt a fix as you have nothing to lose. With the type of grain you may be able to use a white filler in the cracks as this will look like the `white grainy` effect and then just carefully smooth it, you might be surprised as to how well you can camouflage it. |
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![]() "Spamlet" wrote in message ... Well it was so brittle I didn't really look at it as if it was wood, but now you mention it, closer inspection shows it to be some kind of wood, but the finish is a sort of lacquer film on the top. So many little bits have shaken off the edges that it would probably always look wrong if I tried to stick it back together I'm afraid. You could replace the panels with glass if you get desperate. |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:52:18 +0100, "Spamlet"
wrote: "dave" wrote in message ... On 28/07/2010 20:16, Spamlet wrote: I have managed to break a panel on one of our kitchen unit doors: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...t=d irectlink Does anyone here who does more of these things, know if this design is still around? I think it was a 'limed oak effect' and that it may have originally come from Magnet& Southern. Is this likely to be replaceable with a match or near match, or does one have to change the whole set of frontages to 'repair' such damage? Much appreciate any pointers at where I might get a replacement. Cheers, Wife bought a new fitted bedroom a couple of years ago from a company called creative joinery. Forget them, but what they used to do was machine the doors out of whatever they were made of and send them to a company that shrink wrapped the laminate onto it. If you can find a similar Co. in your area, they might be able to help. Dave Thanks Dave, Since my first post, other comments have made me realise these are wood panelled in oak, but the finish looks to be some clever lacquer effect rather than a laminate per se. I've emailed a few co's and am awaiting responses (if any: I find a lot of places don't seem to respond to email all that reliably.) I doubt you'd get a decent colour match by sending pics by email. When I was in a similar position I took a sample to several companies until I found something close enough. The colours in the pictures are often very different in real life. -- (\__/) M. (='.'=) Due to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and (")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking some articles posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by everyone you will need use a different method of posting. |
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![]() "1501" wrote in message ... If you simply cannot obtain a match, would it be possible to convert it to a glazed door? Maybe swap it around with another similar sized door. Or hang a calendar over the damage. mark |
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![]() "dennis@home" wrote in message ... "Spamlet" wrote in message ... Well it was so brittle I didn't really look at it as if it was wood, but now you mention it, closer inspection shows it to be some kind of wood, but the finish is a sort of lacquer film on the top. So many little bits have shaken off the edges that it would probably always look wrong if I tried to stick it back together I'm afraid. You could replace the panels with glass if you get desperate. That might be a good idea under other circumstances but, as I'm in the doghouse at the moment SWMBO wants it back the way it was :-( S |
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![]() "SS" wrote in message news:6Aa4o.231458$9c1.52221@hurricane... "1501" wrote in message ... If you simply cannot obtain a match, would it be possible to convert it to a glazed door? Maybe swap it around with another similar sized door. Until you find a replacement I would attempt a fix as you have nothing to lose. With the type of grain you may be able to use a white filler in the cracks as this will look like the `white grainy` effect and then just carefully smooth it, you might be surprised as to how well you can camouflage it. I could bodge it SS but, at the mo it would be more than my life's worth, I'm afraid. :-( S |
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![]() "mark" wrote in message o.uk... "1501" wrote in message ... If you simply cannot obtain a match, would it be possible to convert it to a glazed door? Maybe swap it around with another similar sized door. Or hang a calendar over the damage. mark More likely to be my skin! S |
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![]() "Mark" wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:52:18 +0100, "Spamlet" wrote: "dave" wrote in message .. . On 28/07/2010 20:16, Spamlet wrote: I have managed to break a panel on one of our kitchen unit doors: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...t=d irectlink Does anyone here who does more of these things, know if this design is still around? I think it was a 'limed oak effect' and that it may have originally come from Magnet& Southern. Is this likely to be replaceable with a match or near match, or does one have to change the whole set of frontages to 'repair' such damage? Much appreciate any pointers at where I might get a replacement. Cheers, Wife bought a new fitted bedroom a couple of years ago from a company called creative joinery. Forget them, but what they used to do was machine the doors out of whatever they were made of and send them to a company that shrink wrapped the laminate onto it. If you can find a similar Co. in your area, they might be able to help. Dave Actually Dave, the 'heavy limed oak' shown here - in a different style - looks just right: http://www.kitchenrefurbs.co.uk/pdf/doorslide.pdf (This example has a slight green tinge as oak tends to get when the green cup fungus mycelium starts to get into it: hopefully it won't all be like that.) S Thanks Dave, Since my first post, other comments have made me realise these are wood panelled in oak, but the finish looks to be some clever lacquer effect rather than a laminate per se. I've emailed a few co's and am awaiting responses (if any: I find a lot of places don't seem to respond to email all that reliably.) I doubt you'd get a decent colour match by sending pics by email. When I was in a similar position I took a sample to several companies until I found something close enough. The colours in the pictures are often very different in real life. -- |
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