Hi,

Looking for a small portable 1-2TB backup box, ethernet, internal disk,
appliance form factor and most importantly, replaceable linux - I want a
proper filesystem (no VFAT) and direct access to rsync and ssh on this.

Wifi would be cool - but optional.

Buffalo would have been my choice 2-3 years ago, but all the wiki's on
hacking the LinkStation (Pro) seem seriously out of date.

I don't want a cobbled together solution (too busy) but just a little self
contained box...

Any ideas for 2010?

Cheers

Tim

--
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On 25/06/2010 08:38, Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Looking for a small portable 1-2TB backup box, ethernet, internal disk,
appliance form factor and most importantly, replaceable linux - I want a
proper filesystem (no VFAT) and direct access to rsync and ssh on this.

Wifi would be cool - but optional.

Buffalo would have been my choice 2-3 years ago, but all the wiki's on
hacking the LinkStation (Pro) seem seriously out of date.

I don't want a cobbled together solution (too busy) but just a little self
contained box...

Any ideas for 2010?

Cheers

Tim

Netgear ReadyNas Duo? Not completely hackable but supports NFS and SSH

Peter Watson
wibbled on Friday 25 June 2010 09:15


Netgear ReadyNas Duo? Not completely hackable but supports NFS and SSH

That would be workable (but not optimal) - partly because NFS is slower than
rsync for loads of little files and I don't expect it can support ACLs over
NFS.

But I have a workaround for the latter (cron dumps ACLS to file for all
filesystems periodically) so it *is* of interest - I shall look it up.

Many thanks

Tim

--
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Tim Watts wrote:
Peter Watson
wibbled on Friday 25 June 2010 09:15


Netgear ReadyNas Duo? Not completely hackable but supports NFS and SSH

That would be workable (but not optimal) - partly because NFS is slower than
rsync for loads of little files and I don't expect it can support ACLs over
NFS.

But I have a workaround for the latter (cron dumps ACLS to file for all
filesystems periodically) so it *is* of interest - I shall look it up.

Many thanks

Tim

Having just had a look, there is an rsync service available on the
ReadyNas as standard as well...

Cheers,

Peter

Tim Watts gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

Any ideas for 2010?

Synology's kit looks interesting, but no direct experience yet.

Adrian
wibbled on Friday 25 June 2010 09:16

Tim Watts gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

Any ideas for 2010?

Synology's kit looks interesting, but no direct experience yet.

http://www.dabs.com/products/synolog...ver-dlna-sata-
usb-6KS4.html

Hmm - 800MHz processor. Decent - not sure on the hackability...

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In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Looking for a small portable 1-2TB backup box, ethernet, internal disk,
appliance form factor and most importantly, replaceable linux - I want a
proper filesystem (no VFAT) and direct access to rsync and ssh on this.

Wifi would be cool - but optional.

Buffalo would have been my choice 2-3 years ago, but all the wiki's on
hacking the LinkStation (Pro) seem seriously out of date.

I don't want a cobbled together solution (too busy) but just a little self
contained box...

Well, this is uk.d-i-y ... So build your own - which, if you're up to
doing an Linux install really shouldn't be hard.

Suggested shopping list:

Case:

http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=12632

Mobo:

http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11130

(you'll need some RAM for it too)

Lots of choice here - that's a VIA processor, but Intel Atoms are cheaper.

Drives - big choice, but I'd probably look at 2 1.5TB WDC 'green' drives
or something similar - although a quick check shows the 2TB ones are
cheaper than the 1.5TB ones:

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...roductId=40039

And off you go..

Gordon

Gordon Henderson
wibbled on Friday 25 June 2010 09:48

In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Looking for a small portable 1-2TB backup box, ethernet, internal disk,
appliance form factor and most importantly, replaceable linux - I want a
proper filesystem (no VFAT) and direct access to rsync and ssh on this.

Wifi would be cool - but optional.

Buffalo would have been my choice 2-3 years ago, but all the wiki's on
hacking the LinkStation (Pro) seem seriously out of date.

I don't want a cobbled together solution (too busy) but just a little self
contained box...

Well, this is uk.d-i-y ... So build your own - which, if you're up to
doing an Linux install really shouldn't be hard.

The DIY will be the software setup

I really want an off the shelf Linkstation type bit of kit (small, and ready
to run bar reloading and tweaking the software). ITX is too lumpy and I
really don't have the time.

I'll do some more research and see if the Linkstation is still hackable -
the problem is the name covers a plethora of actual models so knowing what
you're dealing with is tricky.

--
Tim Watts

Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.

Tim Watts wrote:
Gordon Henderson
wibbled on Friday 25 June 2010 09:48

In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Looking for a small portable 1-2TB backup box, ethernet, internal disk,
appliance form factor and most importantly, replaceable linux - I want a
proper filesystem (no VFAT) and direct access to rsync and ssh on this.

Wifi would be cool - but optional.

Buffalo would have been my choice 2-3 years ago, but all the wiki's on
hacking the LinkStation (Pro) seem seriously out of date.

I don't want a cobbled together solution (too busy) but just a little self
contained box...

Well, this is uk.d-i-y ... So build your own - which, if you're up to
doing an Linux install really shouldn't be hard.

The DIY will be the software setup

I really want an off the shelf Linkstation type bit of kit (small, and ready
to run bar reloading and tweaking the software). ITX is too lumpy and I
really don't have the time.

I'll do some more research and see if the Linkstation is still hackable -
the problem is the name covers a plethora of actual models so knowing what
you're dealing with is tricky.

I have a WD Mybook World Edition, a neat little NAS which consumes
only 6 watts but with the big plus of having proper ssh access built
in so you can get into it, add programs (I've added rdiff-backup) etc.

Much cheaper than Synology plus a big disk, much lower power than a
d-i-y Linux box (unless you go very esoteric).

There's quite an active user community and they have developed a
proper repository of software and installation/upgrade facilities.

--
Chris Green

wibbled on Friday 25 June 2010 12:17


I have a WD Mybook World Edition, a neat little NAS which consumes
only 6 watts but with the big plus of having proper ssh access built
in so you can get into it, add programs (I've added rdiff-backup) etc.

Much cheaper than Synology plus a big disk, much lower power than a
d-i-y Linux box (unless you go very esoteric).

There's quite an active user community and they have developed a
proper repository of software and installation/upgrade facilities.


Thanks! That's spot on the sort of thing I was looking for. 150 quid fro
1.5TB and 180 odd for 2TB.

I see it supports NFS natively. I'm trawling around now for the hacking
groups Looks very promising.

Cheers

Tim

--
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Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.

wibbled on Friday 25 June 2010 12:17

I have a WD Mybook World Edition, a neat little NAS which consumes
only 6 watts but with the big plus of having proper ssh access built
in so you can get into it, add programs (I've added rdiff-backup) etc.

Much cheaper than Synology plus a big disk, much lower power than a
d-i-y Linux box (unless you go very esoteric).

There's quite an active user community and they have developed a
proper repository of software and installation/upgrade facilities.


Could I just check Chris: is this the user community you are talking of:

http://mybookworld.wikidot.com/

and do you remember which version you have? I'm looking at the WDH1NC15000E

http://www.dabs.com/products/western...-mybook-world-
edition-1-5tb-65X5.html?refs=50473

- I'm just cautious about finding that was a big design jump and none of
the hacks work anymore!

I'm looking at putting rsnapshot on mine.

Cheers

Tim

--
Tim Watts

Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.

On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:14:30 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

I'm looking at putting rsnapshot on mine.

I'm using a (hand-rolled) rsnapshot-type system but it seems that
copy-on-write deduplication filesystems (of which there seem to be one or
2 operating in userspace via fuse, plus sun's zfs if that's still viable
for linux) do snapshotting as a byproduct of their modus operandus anyway.

--
John Stumbles

I'm more non-competitive than you

wibbled on Friday 25 June 2010 12:17

Tim Watts wrote:
Gordon Henderson
wibbled on Friday 25 June 2010 09:48

In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Looking for a small portable 1-2TB backup box, ethernet, internal disk,
appliance form factor and most importantly, replaceable linux - I want
a proper filesystem (no VFAT) and direct access to rsync and ssh on
this.

Wifi would be cool - but optional.

Buffalo would have been my choice 2-3 years ago, but all the wiki's on
hacking the LinkStation (Pro) seem seriously out of date.

I don't want a cobbled together solution (too busy) but just a little
self contained box...

Well, this is uk.d-i-y ... So build your own - which, if you're up to
doing an Linux install really shouldn't be hard.

The DIY will be the software setup

I really want an off the shelf Linkstation type bit of kit (small, and
ready to run bar reloading and tweaking the software). ITX is too lumpy
and I really don't have the time.

I'll do some more research and see if the Linkstation is still hackable -
the problem is the name covers a plethora of actual models so knowing
what you're dealing with is tricky.

I have a WD Mybook World Edition, a neat little NAS which consumes
only 6 watts but with the big plus of having proper ssh access built
in so you can get into it, add programs (I've added rdiff-backup) etc.

Much cheaper than Synology plus a big disk, much lower power than a
d-i-y Linux box (unless you go very esoteric).

There's quite an active user community and they have developed a
proper repository of software and installation/upgrade facilities.


Just got one (2TB MyBook World Edition "Whitelight").

Very impressive. Added the Optware ipkg stuff documented at

http://mybookworld.wikidot.com/

Changed a few UID/GIDs around to match my main systems and installed a few
bits including rsnapshot.

Long story short, it's sync'd up 645GB of 538,000 files in a couple of days
(that's good BTW). Now, an rsnapshot run over the same domain takes about 35
minutes which is bloody good for a device in its class.

A very good machine indeed

Thanks for the tip!

Cheers

Tim

--
Tim Watts

Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.

On 25 June, 08:38, Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Looking for a small portable 1-2TB backup box, ethernet, internal disk,
appliance form factor and most importantly, replaceable linux - I want a
proper filesystem (no VFAT) and direct access to rsync and ssh on this.

Wifi would be cool - but optional.

Buffalo would have been my choice 2-3 years ago, but all the wiki's on
hacking the LinkStation (Pro) seem seriously out of date.

I don't want a cobbled together solution (too busy) but just a little self
contained box...

Any ideas for 2010?



The Excito Bubba 2

http://www.excito.com/

_Seriously_ good.

Sid.

Sidney Endon-Lee
wibbled on Friday 25 June 2010 22:30

On 25 June, 08:38, Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Looking for a small portable 1-2TB backup box, ethernet, internal disk,
appliance form factor and most importantly, replaceable linux - I want a
proper filesystem (no VFAT) and direct access to rsync and ssh on this.

Wifi would be cool - but optional.

Buffalo would have been my choice 2-3 years ago, but all the wiki's on
hacking the LinkStation (Pro) seem seriously out of date.

I don't want a cobbled together solution (too busy) but just a little
self contained box...

Any ideas for 2010?



The Excito Bubba 2

http://www.excito.com/

_Seriously_ good.

Sid.

Yes - that is cool, very very cool.

Out of budget though SWMBO has granted permission to spend 150 odd after
I pointed out we have 60GB of photos and I only have a 20GB quota at a
university I used to work at ;-

--
Tim Watts

Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.