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Had a Hozelock reel for the garden hose which, unbelievably, wasn't made
of UV-resistant plastic and disintegrated.

The hose itself is fine, so I've been looking for a replacement empty
reel, preferably wall mounted, to fit the hose to. Local independent
DIY place wanted an eye-watering 50 quid (for an empty reel!) It'd be
cheaper to buy the reel+hose new.

Any recommendations for places to go please?

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Mike Tomlinson
saying something like:

Had a Hozelock reel for the garden hose which, unbelievably, wasn't made
of UV-resistant plastic and disintegrated.

The hose itself is fine, so I've been looking for a replacement empty
reel, preferably wall mounted, to fit the hose to. Local independent
DIY place wanted an eye-watering 50 quid (for an empty reel!) It'd be
cheaper to buy the reel+hose new.


In the spirit of diy...

Used to be dead common to see an old wheel rim mounted on the wall, but
they are non-rotary. Using hozelock style brass fittings it would be
possible to construct a rotary wheel rim, with the fittings in the
central hub. In fact, I might do that - I'm sick of winding up the hose
every time I use it.
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..com, Owain writes

More of the same:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hozelock-Ltd...-Mounted-Hose-
Reel-60-Meter/dp/B000TAP524/ref=sr_1_147?ie=UTF8&s=diy&qid=1277456137&sr=1-147

Metal free standing reel
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rehau-50-Met...=sr_1_13?ie=UT
F8&s=diy&qid=1277456033&sr=1-13


Thank you for your trouble.

Ordered one for 9 quid off ebay. Might be ****e, might not, but worth a
punt.

Item 120584215602.

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IME, Hozelock stuff is crap.


Hmm. Not impressed with their push-fit connectors using the O-rings -
they tend to come apart at the most inopportune moments, like when my
Mum was watering the garden. I did try not to laugh but failed
dismally.

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IME, Hozelock stuff is crap. What the sun doesn't destroy, the frost
will.


Or dropping it from a modest height. I give credit to their design team
for searching the world to find the very worst possible materials to make
their products from - other things that look similar can survive being
dropped just fine. But perhaps their products are designed only to be used
indoors where there's a thick carpet?

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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
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Had a Hozelock reel for the garden hose which, unbelievably, wasn't made
of UV-resistant plastic and disintegrated.

The hose itself is fine, so I've been looking for a replacement empty
reel, preferably wall mounted, to fit the hose to. Local independent
DIY place wanted an eye-watering 50 quid (for an empty reel!) It'd be
cheaper to buy the reel+hose new.

Any recommendations for places to go please?

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We got what turned out to be a very good pull around one from Lidl last
year, for around £15. It had rather clever semi-circular plastic 'nuts' to
give non-scratch ends to the assembly bolts. As this was going to be fairly
publicly used, I swapped these for nylocks. V pleased with it to date.
(just tried to check, but their website doesn't seem to work t the mo)

S


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Huge wrote:
On 2010-06-25, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Had a Hozelock reel for the garden hose which, unbelievably, wasn't
made of UV-resistant plastic and disintegrated.


IME, Hozelock stuff is crap. What the sun doesn't destroy, the frost
will.

I ended up bolting an old alloy wheel to the wall to store hose. No
way was I going to give Hozelock any more money.


If you know how to coil a hose - e.g. by putting a twist into each coil, its
much quicker & easier to use a 'hose hanger' like an old wheel.


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The Medway Handyman wrote:
If you know how to coil a hose - e.g. by putting a twist into each coil,
its much quicker & easier to use a 'hose hanger' like an old wheel.


Or rather neater, a couple of those large aluminium hooks the sheds sell.

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In article rJiVn.54638$x15.7050@hurricane, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

If you know how to coil a hose - e.g. by putting a twist into each coil, its
much quicker & easier to use a 'hose hanger' like an old wheel.


Unless I'm misunderstanding you, don't twist anything, i.e. don't try to
put a half twist in the hose so it lies in single loops. For thick
things like hoses, coil up on the wheel or home-made hooks using a
figure-of-eight lay so the item being coiled doesn't need to be twisted.
When you want to use it, you take the "8 pile" off the reel, lay it on
the ground, with the remote end on top, which you grab and run out
straight without having to deal with any twisted coils.

The method of putting a half-twist on each coil, so it looks nice with a
single loop, needs you to remove these twists when you want to use it.

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On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:03:34 +0100, John Weston wrote:

The method of putting a half-twist on each coil, so it looks nice with a
single loop, needs you to remove these twists when you want to use it.


The trick is to alternate the direction of the twists in each coil so
they cancel out down the length of the hose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqbYyaUY5Sk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBUzmA4kTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLwwB29uQRg

Just bought a 50m hose even with a big loop (4' dia) it gets to big
and heavy to hand coil. It will be figure of eighted and hung on the
wall, either on old wheels or somthing else with a large curved
surface area to spread the load so the hose doesn't get damaged.

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Huge wrote:
On 2010-06-26, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article rJiVn.54638$x15.7050@hurricane,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
If you know how to coil a hose - e.g. by putting a twist into each
coil, its much quicker & easier to use a 'hose hanger' like an old
wheel.


Or rather neater, a couple of those large aluminium hooks the sheds
sell.


Pah. What could be neater than a Sierra Cosworth alloy wheel?


True - but most mount them inside out. ;-)

Huge, I've got a question about Sierra Cosworth rear brakes. Is your reply
to address valid?

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John Weston wrote:
In article rJiVn.54638$x15.7050@hurricane, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

If you know how to coil a hose - e.g. by putting a twist into each
coil, its much quicker & easier to use a 'hose hanger' like an old
wheel.


Unless I'm misunderstanding you, don't twist anything, i.e. don't try
to put a half twist in the hose so it lies in single loops.


Beg to differ Guv.

For thick
things like hoses, coil up on the wheel or home-made hooks using a
figure-of-eight lay so the item being coiled doesn't need to be
twisted. When you want to use it, you take the "8 pile" off the reel,
lay it on the ground, with the remote end on top, which you grab and
run out straight without having to deal with any twisted coils.


Entire British Navy runs on ropes coiled with a single twist.


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In article MtsVn.84537$w51.26100@hurricane, "The Medway Handyman"
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Beg to differ Guv.


Accepted :-)

OK, for small lines that have the common (three) strand twisted
construction - you can coil the rope using single loops with the core
twist direction (S or Z) but don't twist the rope as a whole (a finger-
persuasion in the right direction so it lays flat is OK). For larger
strand construction rope you can't hold in your arms, you coil on the
floor walking round the loops.

For braided ropes, plait or hoses that don't have a uniform core twist
direction, each coil should be in the opposite direction, as in an "8"
so you don't have a cumulative twist to the coils.

Entire British Navy runs on ropes coiled with a single twist.


But they don't normally use braided rope - or hosepipe :-). These tangle
if you try the single-coil-with-the-strand-direction method, Better to
lay each coil in alternate directions - as in a figure-8. I coil
braided rope between, say, a winch and my forearm using a figure-8
pattern. This provides a non-tangle run-out when I later want to deploy
the line on a boat.

I don't coil hosepipe on a boat, since I have a small hose-reel, but it
should work the same as braided rope. If I'm wrong, I bow to your
superior experience :-)

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John Weston wrote:
In article MtsVn.84537$w51.26100@hurricane, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

Beg to differ Guv.


Accepted :-)

OK, for small lines that have the common (three) strand twisted
construction - you can coil the rope using single loops with the core
twist direction (S or Z) but don't twist the rope as a whole (a
finger- persuasion in the right direction so it lays flat is OK). For
larger strand construction rope you can't hold in your arms, you coil
on the floor walking round the loops.

For braided ropes, plait or hoses that don't have a uniform core twist
direction, each coil should be in the opposite direction, as in an "8"
so you don't have a cumulative twist to the coils.

Entire British Navy runs on ropes coiled with a single twist.


But they don't normally use braided rope - or hosepipe :-). These
tangle if you try the single-coil-with-the-strand-direction method,
Better to lay each coil in alternate directions - as in a figure-8.
I coil braided rope between, say, a winch and my forearm using a
figure-8 pattern. This provides a non-tangle run-out when I later
want to deploy the line on a boat.

I don't coil hosepipe on a boat, since I have a small hose-reel, but
it should work the same as braided rope. If I'm wrong, I bow to your
superior experience :-)


Its just that in the 30 years I spent selling pressure washers, I always
coiled the hydrailic pressure hoses and braided inlet hoses using the coil &
twist method to keep things neat & tidy - which it did.

Hosepipes at dawn!


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