One of the loos (which looks like it's close-coupled) has a plastic
elbow to connect it to the cistern. The elbow seems to be screwed-on to
the back of the pan but the joint is leaking. I've tried searching for
"flush cone elbow" and similar things - what's it called and where can I
get a seal?

Dave

NoSpam wrote:
One of the loos (which looks like it's close-coupled) has a plastic
elbow to connect it to the cistern. The elbow seems to be screwed-on
to the back of the pan but the joint is leaking. I've tried searching
for "flush cone elbow" and similar things - what's it called and
where can I get a seal?

I think you mean 'low level' rather than close-coupled? Low level look like
this
http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog...campaign=Feed1

In which case you need one of these;
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/74071/...C#BVRRWidgetID


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
One of the loos (which looks like it's close-coupled) has a plastic
elbow to connect it to the cistern. The elbow seems to be screwed-on
to the back of the pan but the joint is leaking. I've tried searching
for "flush cone elbow" and similar things - what's it called and
where can I get a seal?

I think you mean 'low level' rather than close-coupled? Low level look like
this
http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog...campaign=Feed1

In which case you need one of these;
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/74071/...C#BVRRWidgetID



Nope! It looks just like a standard close-coupled set-up (and uses a
standard close-coupled doughnut and metal plate) but the cistern flushes
into a plastic elbow which is screwed to the back of the pan. It's as if
they had a large batch of standard pans and needed to find a way to
convert them into close-coupled ones - the house was built about 15
years ago.
I presume the elbow has a flush cone attached to it but I don't want to
take it off until I know I can get a replacement - I don't want to leave
the tenants without a loo.

Dave

On 11 June, 19:42, NoSpam wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
One of the loos (which looks like it's close-coupled) has a plastic
elbow to connect it to the cistern. The elbow seems to be screwed-on
to the back of the pan but the joint is leaking. I've tried searching
for "flush cone elbow" and similar things - what's it called and
where can I get a seal?

I think you mean 'low level' rather than close-coupled? �Low level look like
this
http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog...vel_Toilets.ht...

In which case you need one of these;
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/74071/...tings/Flushcon...

Nope! It looks just like a standard close-coupled set-up (and uses a
standard close-coupled doughnut and metal plate) but the cistern flushes
into a plastic elbow which is screwed to the back of the pan. It's as if
they had a large batch of standard pans and needed to find a way to
convert them into close-coupled ones - the house was built about 15
years ago.
I presume the elbow has a flush cone attached to it but I don't want to
take it off until I know I can get a replacement - I don't want to leave
the tenants without a loo.

Dave- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There is not usually an elbow on a close coupled toilet, the water
inlet is on top of the pan and the tank bolts traight down on top of
it with a big soft foam rubber gasket thing between.

Low level toilets have a horizontal inlet and a bit of plastic pipe
bent at 90deg linking the two. The pipe is cut to suit the tank and
WC positions. Where the pipe goes into the pan there is a soft
plastic finned annular device that just pushes in. Sometimes needs a
bit of plumbers mate on it. Normally called a WC tank connector. You
seem to have some sort of a bodge job probably arising from the 100mm
outlet drain being mis-positioned.

harry wrote:
On 11 June, 19:42, NoSpam wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
One of the loos (which looks like it's close-coupled) has a plastic
elbow to connect it to the cistern. The elbow seems to be screwed-on
to the back of the pan but the joint is leaking. I've tried searching
for "flush cone elbow" and similar things - what's it called and
where can I get a seal?
I think you mean 'low level' rather than close-coupled? �Low level look like
this
http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog...vel_Toilets.ht...
In which case you need one of these;
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/74071/...tings/Flushcon...
Nope! It looks just like a standard close-coupled set-up (and uses a
standard close-coupled doughnut and metal plate) but the cistern flushes
into a plastic elbow which is screwed to the back of the pan. It's as if
they had a large batch of standard pans and needed to find a way to
convert them into close-coupled ones - the house was built about 15
years ago.
I presume the elbow has a flush cone attached to it but I don't want to
take it off until I know I can get a replacement - I don't want to leave
the tenants without a loo.

Dave- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There is not usually an elbow on a close coupled toilet, the water
inlet is on top of the pan and the tank bolts traight down on top of
it with a big soft foam rubber gasket thing between.

Low level toilets have a horizontal inlet and a bit of plastic pipe
bent at 90deg linking the two. The pipe is cut to suit the tank and
WC positions. Where the pipe goes into the pan there is a soft
plastic finned annular device that just pushes in. Sometimes needs a
bit of plumbers mate on it. Normally called a WC tank connector. You
seem to have some sort of a bodge job probably arising from the 100mm
outlet drain being mis-positioned.

I have installed many bathrooms and understand what's "normal", but I
haven't seen this set-up before. I suspect that the pan was designed to
be universal, and is converted to being close-coupled with this plastic
elbow. This is not a bodge, the loo was clearly made this way and I
suspect that most of them in the estate are the same.


Dave

NoSpam wrote:
harry wrote:
On 11 June, 19:42, NoSpam wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
One of the loos (which looks like it's close-coupled) has a plastic
elbow to connect it to the cistern. The elbow seems to be screwed-on
to the back of the pan but the joint is leaking. I've tried searching
for "flush cone elbow" and similar things - what's it called and
where can I get a seal?
I think you mean 'low level' rather than close-coupled? �Low level
look like
this
http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog...vel_Toilets.ht...

In which case you need one of these;
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/74071/...tings/Flushcon...

Nope! It looks just like a standard close-coupled set-up (and uses a
standard close-coupled doughnut and metal plate) but the cistern flushes
into a plastic elbow which is screwed to the back of the pan. It's as if
they had a large batch of standard pans and needed to find a way to
convert them into close-coupled ones - the house was built about 15
years ago.
I presume the elbow has a flush cone attached to it but I don't want to
take it off until I know I can get a replacement - I don't want to leave
the tenants without a loo.

Dave- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There is not usually an elbow on a close coupled toilet, the water
inlet is on top of the pan and the tank bolts traight down on top of
it with a big soft foam rubber gasket thing between.

Low level toilets have a horizontal inlet and a bit of plastic pipe
bent at 90deg linking the two. The pipe is cut to suit the tank and
WC positions. Where the pipe goes into the pan there is a soft
plastic finned annular device that just pushes in. Sometimes needs a
bit of plumbers mate on it. Normally called a WC tank connector. You
seem to have some sort of a bodge job probably arising from the 100mm
outlet drain being mis-positioned.

I have installed many bathrooms and understand what's "normal", but I
haven't seen this set-up before. I suspect that the pan was designed to
be universal, and is converted to being close-coupled with this plastic
elbow. This is not a bodge, the loo was clearly made this way and I
suspect that most of them in the estate are the same.


Dave

Just to expand a little ... the front face of the elbow is bolted to the
back of the pan and the top face of the elbow has a flange to which the
standard close-coupling kit bolts.

Dave

NoSpam wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
One of the loos (which looks like it's close-coupled) has a plastic
elbow to connect it to the cistern. The elbow seems to be screwed-on
to the back of the pan but the joint is leaking. I've tried
searching for "flush cone elbow" and similar things - what's it
called and where can I get a seal?

I think you mean 'low level' rather than close-coupled? Low level
look like this
http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog...campaign=Feed1

In which case you need one of these;
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/74071/...C#BVRRWidgetID



Nope! It looks just like a standard close-coupled set-up (and uses a
standard close-coupled doughnut and metal plate) but the cistern
flushes into a plastic elbow which is screwed to the back of the pan.
It's as if they had a large batch of standard pans and needed to find
a way to convert them into close-coupled ones - the house was built
about 15 years ago.

Aha! I came across one of those a few months ago. I wondered at the time
if they had made a 'multi use' pan that could be used either way.

I presume the elbow has a flush cone attached to it but I don't want
to take it off until I know I can get a replacement - I don't want to
leave the tenants without a loo.

The one I came across did have a flush cone under the plastic elbow thingy.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
One of the loos (which looks like it's close-coupled) has a plastic
elbow to connect it to the cistern. The elbow seems to be screwed-on
to the back of the pan but the joint is leaking. I've tried
searching for "flush cone elbow" and similar things - what's it
called and where can I get a seal?
.... snipped


Nope! It looks just like a standard close-coupled set-up (and uses a
standard close-coupled doughnut and metal plate) but the cistern
flushes into a plastic elbow which is screwed to the back of the pan.
It's as if they had a large batch of standard pans and needed to find
a way to convert them into close-coupled ones - the house was built
about 15 years ago.

Aha! I came across one of those a few months ago. I wondered at the time
if they had made a 'multi use' pan that could be used either way.

I presume the elbow has a flush cone attached to it but I don't want
to take it off until I know I can get a replacement - I don't want to
leave the tenants without a loo.

The one I came across did have a flush cone under the plastic elbow thingy.



Thanks Dave. Can you remember how the elbow was sealed to the pan
(because mine isn't any more)? did the elbow have a stub that went into
a standard flush cone?

Dave

NoSpam wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
One of the loos (which looks like it's close-coupled) has a
plastic elbow to connect it to the cistern. The elbow seems to be
screwed-on to the back of the pan but the joint is leaking. I've
tried searching for "flush cone elbow" and similar things -
what's it called and where can I get a seal?
... snipped


Nope! It looks just like a standard close-coupled set-up (and uses a
standard close-coupled doughnut and metal plate) but the cistern
flushes into a plastic elbow which is screwed to the back of the
pan. It's as if they had a large batch of standard pans and needed
to find a way to convert them into close-coupled ones - the house
was built about 15 years ago.

Aha! I came across one of those a few months ago. I wondered at
the time if they had made a 'multi use' pan that could be used
either way.
I presume the elbow has a flush cone attached to it but I don't want
to take it off until I know I can get a replacement - I don't want
to leave the tenants without a loo.

The one I came across did have a flush cone under the plastic elbow
thingy.

Thanks Dave. Can you remember how the elbow was sealed to the pan
(because mine isn't any more)? did the elbow have a stub that went
into a standard flush cone?

Errrm. It was a while ago....

I do recall it was a bugger to seal - I had to go back because of a minor
drip.

I do recall definately using a new flush cone and LSX.

The WC was a brand name I recognised.

If anything more comes back to me I'll let you know.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
NoSpam wrote:
One of the loos (which looks like it's close-coupled) has a
plastic elbow to connect it to the cistern. The elbow seems to be
screwed-on to the back of the pan but the joint is leaking. I've
tried searching for "flush cone elbow" and similar things -
what's it called and where can I get a seal?
... snipped

Nope! It looks just like a standard close-coupled set-up (and uses a
standard close-coupled doughnut and metal plate) but the cistern
flushes into a plastic elbow which is screwed to the back of the
pan. It's as if they had a large batch of standard pans and needed
to find a way to convert them into close-coupled ones - the house
was built about 15 years ago.
Aha! I came across one of those a few months ago. I wondered at
the time if they had made a 'multi use' pan that could be used
either way.
I presume the elbow has a flush cone attached to it but I don't want
to take it off until I know I can get a replacement - I don't want
to leave the tenants without a loo.
The one I came across did have a flush cone under the plastic elbow
thingy.
Thanks Dave. Can you remember how the elbow was sealed to the pan
(because mine isn't any more)? did the elbow have a stub that went
into a standard flush cone?

Errrm. It was a while ago....

I do recall it was a bugger to seal - I had to go back because of a minor
drip.

I do recall definately using a new flush cone and LSX.

The WC was a brand name I recognised.

If anything more comes back to me I'll let you know.



I just had another look. It's an elbow with a flange that bolts onto the
back of the pan, a spigot that fits into the back of the pan with a very
soft short seal, and a top part that takes the normal close-coupling
doughnut and clamp screws. The spigot seal is softer than flush cones
that I've seen before and is starting to decompose. The pan has quite a
thin wall at the back rather than the usual socket - any ideas for what
this seal might be called and where to get one?