I'v just found a helpfile for having a separate home partition in
Ubuntu, something I've heard about for a long time but not been able to do.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pa...ng/Home/Moving

Unfortunately its not a GUI but commandline magic.

Makes updating the OS a lot easier, I think.

[g]

"george [dicegeorge]" wrote in message
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I'v just found a helpfile for having a separate home partition in Ubuntu,
something I've heard about for a long time but not been able to do.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pa...ng/Home/Moving

Unfortunately its not a GUI but commandline magic.

Makes updating the OS a lot easier, I think.

[g]


http://download.cnet.com/Easeus-Part...-10863346.html

I just put in a new hard drive on this laptop and Acronis increased the
partitions proportionately so I ended up with a Dell diagnostics partition
many times larger than necessary, and a massive allocation for Windows' MFT
expansion. Easeus, above, gives you a simple drag the bar to size,
graphical interface to correct this. (JKdefrag, being a good freeware prog
that shows you the different areas of a drive in different colours and
various options for sorting and defragging.)

S

george [dicegeorge] wrote:
I'v just found a helpfile for having a separate home partition in
Ubuntu, something I've heard about for a long time but not been able to do.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pa...ng/Home/Moving

Unfortunately its not a GUI but commandline magic.

Makes updating the OS a lot easier, I think.

[g]
os will upgrade over anything really.

For a single user system I cant see the point of splitting the disk up
that way.

george [dicegeorge] wrote:

I'v just found a helpfile for having a separate home partition in
Ubuntu, something I've heard about for a long time but not been able to
do.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pa...ng/Home/Moving

Unfortunately its not a GUI but commandline magic.

Makes updating the OS a lot easier, I think.

[g]

Personally i don't think it's worth it.
i use SBackup which backs up your home and usr folder unto a usb stick, then
if the HD goes titsup or you want to do a clean upgrade install you just run
restore and everything is as it was 20min previously.**
\0

In article , lid says...

george [dicegeorge] wrote:
I'v just found a helpfile for having a separate home partition in
Ubuntu, something I've heard about for a long time but not been able to do.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pa...ng/Home/Moving

Unfortunately its not a GUI but commandline magic.

Makes updating the OS a lot easier, I think.

[g]
os will upgrade over anything really.

For a single user system I cant see the point of splitting the disk up
that way.

Until very recently when Linux got "Easy" every install involved
partitioning the disk from the command line and deciding what space you
wanted for each part. It was standard practice to put /home on a
separate partition, then when doing an upgrade there would be an option
"not format home partition". It is probably still there. Useful when all
your account/applications settings and you personal created files go in
there. There can be a lot of config(.) hidden files you don't even think
about, especially on something like an Ubuntu system that tries to make
itself as Mac/Windows like in operation and installation and hides stuff
without cutting off access totally.

--
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in 750097 20100610 223135 Mark wrote:
george [dicegeorge] wrote:

I'v just found a helpfile for having a separate home partition in
Ubuntu, something I've heard about for a long time but not been able to
do.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pa...ng/Home/Moving

Unfortunately its not a GUI but commandline magic.

Makes updating the OS a lot easier, I think.

[g]

Personally i don't think it's worth it.
i use SBackup which backs up your home and usr folder unto a usb stick, then
if the HD goes titsup or you want to do a clean upgrade install you just run
restore and everything is as it was 20min previously.��


You obviously haven't got much data!

Elder wrote:
In article , lid says...
george [dicegeorge] wrote:
I'v just found a helpfile for having a separate home partition in
Ubuntu, something I've heard about for a long time but not been able to do.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pa...ng/Home/Moving

Unfortunately its not a GUI but commandline magic.

Makes updating the OS a lot easier, I think.

[g]
os will upgrade over anything really.

For a single user system I cant see the point of splitting the disk up
that way.

Until very recently when Linux got "Easy" every install involved
partitioning the disk from the command line and deciding what space you
wanted for each part. It was standard practice to put /home on a
separate partition, then when doing an upgrade there would be an option
"not format home partition".

I am sorry,but you are not correct about it being standard, and you are
not correct about upgrades requiring a complete reinstallation and disk
wipe.

Upgrades are usually simply a question of overwriting the code with new
code whilst leaving the configuration the same: That is even true for
major upgrades.


It is probably still there. Useful when all
your account/applications settings and you personal created files go in
there. There can be a lot of config(.) hidden files you don't even think
about, especially on something like an Ubuntu system that tries to make
itself as Mac/Windows like in operation and installation and hides stuff
without cutting off access totally.


Your assumption that any upgrade involves repartitioning is at fault: It
makes nonsense of the rest of what you say.

This is not Windows where failure to remove the dross on your last
installation will result in the next being slow/malware infested and/or
broken.

The average naive user of a personal desktop is well advised to not
create more than one partition. It means he doesn't need to know in
advance which partitions will be what size. He can use the whole disk
to its best advantage.

Upgrades will not affect it nor will they require repartitioning or
indeed any file erasure.


Once you really need a new partition type scenario, you wont need to ask
if you do, either.

Mark wrote:
george [dicegeorge] wrote:

I'v just found a helpfile for having a separate home partition in
Ubuntu, something I've heard about for a long time but not been able to
do.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pa...ng/Home/Moving

Unfortunately its not a GUI but commandline magic.

Makes updating the OS a lot easier, I think.

[g]

Personally i don't think it's worth it.
i use SBackup which backs up your home and usr folder unto a usb stick, then
if the HD goes titsup or you want to do a clean upgrade install you just run
restore and everything is as it was 20min previously.



be aware there's a lot of stuff sometimes in /var as well that may need
backing up.

/usr is only code really.

Bob Martin wrote:
in 750097 20100610 223135 Mark wrote:
george [dicegeorge] wrote:

I'v just found a helpfile for having a separate home partition in
Ubuntu, something I've heard about for a long time but not been able to
do.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pa...ng/Home/Moving

Unfortunately its not a GUI but commandline magic.

Makes updating the OS a lot easier, I think.

[g]
Personally i don't think it's worth it.
i use SBackup which backs up your home and usr folder unto a usb stick, then
if the HD goes titsup or you want to do a clean upgrade install you just run
restore and everything is as it was 20min previously.��


You obviously haven't got much data!

I simply use two disks on the server, on of which syncs the other.


and neither of which coexists inside my *desktop* machine.

Which I don't back up, since no user data exists on it at all, bar a few
name/password things in the key-rings for some websites I use a lot.

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:50:40 +0100, me9 wrote:

Much better to reformat teh root partition on an OS upgrade. Then a
separate
/home is useful to carry forward to the new OS even with a single user.
The
installer will give the option of setting up the partitions as required,
quite straightforward, set teh existing root partition as / and the
existing /home as /home, re-formatting only the / partition.

Exactly what I've done on all my FreeBSD systems for years. After
installation, I restore selected config files, etc. to / and /var.


--
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http://www.mirrorservice.org

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On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:48:57 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wibbled:


I am sorry,but you are not correct about it being standard, and you are
not correct about upgrades requiring a complete reinstallation and disk
wipe.

I will have to disagree. I would never leave data on the same filesystem
as the OS. Particularly not Windows.

linux - although it is true that Linux is pretty good at doing in
place upgrades (especially Debian derived distros because the packaging
is IMO done better in the first place) - soon er or later you will meet
one of 3 scenarios:

1) Linux has got crufty enough (including you have messed too much under /
etc) and you need a clean reinstall;

2) You want to install a different type of linux.

3) You have dual boot and would like all OSes to see your data.

The method is simple enough - unless you are very tight on disk space,
10-20GB for the OS and the rest for data.

--
Tim Watts

Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.

On 11 June, 07:15, Elder wrote:

Until very recently when Linux got "Easy" every install involved
partitioning the disk from the command line

RedHat version 3 had a graphical partitioning tool in 1996

Tim Watts wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:48:57 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wibbled:


I am sorry,but you are not correct about it being standard, and you are
not correct about upgrades requiring a complete reinstallation and disk
wipe.

I will have to disagree. I would never leave data on the same filesystem
as the OS. Particularly not Windows.


WE are not talking about windows.

I would never leave ANY data on a windows machine, ever. I have been
using file servers on windows desktops for over 15 years now. Windows
desktops are disposable entities. They can crash beyond repair at any time.


linux - although it is true that Linux is pretty good at doing in
place upgrades (especially Debian derived distros because the packaging
is IMO done better in the first place) - soon er or later you will meet
one of 3 scenarios:

1) Linux has got crufty enough (including you have messed too much under /
etc) and you need a clean reinstall;


Generally at that point I need a new machine as well, and thats when you
simply make a new machines and hook your old disk up to it as a second DISK.


2) You want to install a different type of linux.


Whatever for?



3) You have dual boot and would like all OSes to see your data.


Virtual box is your friend: No need for either dual booting or
partitioning. Or being restricted to having to use WINDOWS disk formats
on your shared data

The method is simple enough - unless you are very tight on disk space,
10-20GB for the OS and the rest for data.


Until you start loading up google earth, and the like,and run out of
primary disk space, or your log files grow or you start using say MySql
or apache which likes their data in /var...

For the unsophisticated single user desktop., one partition is a lot
easier. And VB for WinDoze.

By the time more becomes a useful thing, they will know enough not to
have to read our arguments anyway.

wrote:
On 10 Jun,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

george [dicegeorge] wrote:
I'v just found a helpfile for having a separate home partition in
Ubuntu, something I've heard about for a long time but not been able to
do.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pa...ng/Home/Moving

Unfortunately its not a GUI but commandline magic.

Makes updating the OS a lot easier, I think.

[g]
os will upgrade over anything really.

For a single user system I cant see the point of splitting the disk up
that way.

Much better to reformat teh root partition on an OS upgrade.

whatever for?