Hi,

The story so far: I was hoping to convert the cupboard under the
stairs into a cloakroom. The first step is adding a light and this is
proving difficult as I had hoped to keep the wires hidden. You may
have seen my thread on conduit. I have put conduit inside the stud
wall: at one end it goes to the light switch; at the other end it
terminates in a metal back box at the top of the wall. I now need to
get the wire to this top box. I can't just drop inside the wall from
above as the stairs are in the way, so I will need to have a couple of
inches of cable run down the outside of the wall: what is the neatest
way to do this?

May be I have made things difficult by connecting the conduit to a
back box? I know you can get flex outlets to screw onto a back box but
I need something that would allow T&E. Does such a thing exist?

I know you can get pattress boxes that screw onto a 1G box and convert
it to a 2G or 3G socket. Is there such a thing as one of these
"skirts" that is only 1G wide, in other words extending the back box
out onto the wall? That way I could drop into the protruding plastic
box and put a blank plate over the front?

TIA

On May 10, 10:13*am, Fred wrote:
Hi,

The story so far: I was hoping to convert the cupboard under the
stairs into a cloakroom. The first step is adding a light and this is
proving difficult as I had hoped to keep the wires hidden. You may
have seen my thread on conduit. I have put conduit inside the stud
wall: at one end it goes to the light switch; at the other end it
terminates in a metal back box at the top of the wall. I now need to
get the wire to this top box. I can't just drop inside the wall from
above as the stairs are in the way, so I will need to have a couple of
inches of cable run down the outside of the wall: *what is the neatest
way to do this?

May be I have made things difficult by connecting the conduit to a
back box? I know you can get flex outlets to screw onto a back box but
I need something that would allow T&E. Does such a thing exist?

I know you can get pattress boxes that screw onto a 1G box and convert
it to a 2G or 3G socket. Is there such a thing as one of these
"skirts" that is only 1G wide, in other words extending the back box
out onto the wall? That way I could drop into the protruding plastic
box and put a blank plate over the front?

TIA

pics needed. Not clear why youre using conduit


NT

On 10/05/2010 10:13, Fred wrote:
Hi,

The story so far: I was hoping to convert the cupboard under the
stairs into a cloakroom. The first step is adding a light and this is
proving difficult as I had hoped to keep the wires hidden. You may
have seen my thread on conduit. I have put conduit inside the stud
wall: at one end it goes to the light switch; at the other end it
terminates in a metal back box at the top of the wall. I now need to
get the wire to this top box. I can't just drop inside the wall from
above as the stairs are in the way, so I will need to have a couple of
inches of cable run down the outside of the wall: what is the neatest
way to do this?

May be I have made things difficult by connecting the conduit to a
back box? I know you can get flex outlets to screw onto a back box but
I need something that would allow T&E. Does such a thing exist?

I know you can get pattress boxes that screw onto a 1G box and convert
it to a 2G or 3G socket. Is there such a thing as one of these
"skirts" that is only 1G wide, in other words extending the back box
out onto the wall? That way I could drop into the protruding plastic
box and put a blank plate over the front?

TIA
This would do

http://www.neweysonline.co.uk/mita-extension-collar-cableline-single-gang-19mm-deep/1050126744/ProductInformation.raction

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Regards
Camdor.

On Tue, 11 May 2010 03:19:04 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

ok with you so far. Not sure why you put the metal box in mind you...

I'm not sure now either; I think it is making things complicated. I
suppose I thought that a box with a blanking plate would look better
than a conduit box on the surface of the wall. I thought that taking
the conduit out of the wall would be ugly too.

I suppose you mean either the switch wire to the lamp fitting

Yes.

Outside of which wall? Do you mean outside the cloakroom - e.g. visible
in the hall?

Yes.

or outside and in really outside?

No, not outside-outside.

What sort of lamp fitting are you using and where is it mounted?

Just a standard pendant thing, nothing fancy nor special. The power is
coming from the radial that supplies all the other downstairs lights.
I thought this was best to keep all lights together rather than use a
fused spur or similar. It was on an 3A spur before and made the wiring
simpler!

Thanks.

On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:28:43 +0100, Camdor wrote:

This would do

http://www.neweysonline.co.uk/mita-extension-collar-cableline-single-gang-19mm-deep/1050126744/ProductInformation.raction

This looks exactly what I need. Can you knock out a hole for cable
entry, or is it more for creating extra room behind dimmer switches?

I tried to google mita to find out and found my own thread

I also found a post on Screwfix where a sparks suggested saving money
and drilling through the posts on a "normal" pattress box. Has anyone
done this? Is it worth the hassle?

TIA

On Sat, 15 May 2010 14:26:05 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

So how are you planning on getting the power from the lighting circuit
to the rose for the lamp? I presume the underside of the stairs is
covered with plasterboard or similar?

Yes it is plasterboard but luckily the bit with the light on is
accessible from the landing floorboards; it's just everything else is
not ;(

I will have to look for a free upload site to upload some photos.

Thanks.