Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

Don't really want to tax for 6 or 12 months and get 5 or 11 months back.

Any other ideas?

TIA for any.

On Feb 17, 2:54 pm, Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

Don't really want to tax for 6 or 12 months and get 5 or 11 months back.

Any other ideas?

TIA for any.

strongly suggest the new car salesman helps you out with the use of a
demo or something else for the 48 (or at least 24) hours?

JimK

"JimK" wrote in message
...
On Feb 17, 2:54 pm, Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

Don't really want to tax for 6 or 12 months and get 5 or 11 months back.

Any other ideas?

TIA for any.

strongly suggest the new car salesman helps you out with the use of a
demo or something else for the 48 (or at least 24) hours?

JimK

A loan of some trade plates?

Adam

"ARWadsworth" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

strongly suggest the new car salesman helps you out with the use of a
demo or something else for the 48 (or at least 24) hours?

A loan of some trade plates?

Only if they want their trade plates withdrawing.

On 18/02/2010 11:47, ARWadsworth wrote:

"JimK" wrote in message
...
On Feb 17, 2:54 pm, Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

Don't really want to tax for 6 or 12 months and get 5 or 11 months back.

Any other ideas?

TIA for any.

strongly suggest the new car salesman helps you out with the use of a
demo or something else for the 48 (or at least 24) hours?

JimK

A loan of some trade plates?

Adam

Deal done.

We are dropping the old car off on 28 Feb.

Service manager is picking up our other car for servicing early on 2
March and taking me with him to pick up the new one.

I will drive new one home and service manager will drop other one off
after it has been serviced AND MoTd!

As a matter of interest my only conviction in over 40 years driving was
for no MoT about 39 years ago. No excuses. Found out when I went to
report my car had been hit whilst parked (and pushed right across a
pavement). Fortunately the other guy reported the accident (company car)
and getting back my excess and NCD was worth much more than the £15 fine.

On 17/02/2010 14:54, Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

IME you have 1 month before the DVLA will issue a fine.

There is still the problem of being caught by ANPR on the way there on
the 2nd - how about booking a MOT test?

"Jim" wrote in message
...
On 17/02/2010 14:54, Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

IME you have 1 month before the DVLA will issue a fine.

Not any more. They expect it to be taxed or SORNED with no leeway.

Peter Crosland

In message , Jim
writes
On 17/02/2010 14:54, Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

IME you have 1 month before the DVLA will issue a fine.

There is still the problem of being caught by ANPR on the way there on
the 2nd - how about booking a MOT test?

This happened to the son of someone who works for me - so it does happen




--
geoff

Jim wrote:
On 17/02/2010 14:54, Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

IME you have 1 month before the DVLA will issue a fine.

There is still the problem of being caught by ANPR on the way there on
the 2nd - how about booking a MOT test?

I did that with the daughters car when we met at Warwick services and I
brought it up to Preston to get an MOT and looked at for a water leak.
Garage owner laughed his head of, but agreed there was nothing the
police could do about it, because it was on its way for a pre booked
MOT. The law does not stipulate were, or how far away, the MOT station
should be. It passed, with no recommendation's, by the way.

Dave

I did that with the daughters car when we met at Warwick services and I
brought it up to Preston to get an MOT and looked at for a water leak.
Garage owner laughed his head of, but agreed there was nothing the
police could do about it, because it was on its way for a pre booked
MOT. The law does not stipulate were, or how far away, the MOT station
should be. It passed, with no recommendation's, by the way.

Dave

I did this for many years when I lived in a bus (which had insurance but
no tax.)
When eviction / site moving time came,
book an MOT,
go for MOT,
pass or fail,
return to new site.

[g]

"george [dicegeorge]" wrote in message
...


I did that with the daughters car when we met at Warwick services and I
brought it up to Preston to get an MOT and looked at for a water leak.
Garage owner laughed his head of, but agreed there was nothing the police
could do about it, because it was on its way for a pre booked MOT. The
law does not stipulate were, or how far away, the MOT station should be.
It passed, with no recommendation's, by the way.

Dave

I did this for many years when I lived in a bus (which had insurance but
no tax.)
When eviction / site moving time came,
book an MOT,
go for MOT,
pass or fail,

You do understand the difference between driving a car with no MOT and
driving an MOT failure?
Check that your insurance is valid if you are driving an un-roadworthy car.

return to new site.

[g]

dennis@home wrote:


You do understand ..

Yes Dennis. WE understand.

dennis@home wrote:


"george [dicegeorge]" wrote in message
...


I did that with the daughters car when we met at Warwick services and
I brought it up to Preston to get an MOT and looked at for a water leak.
Garage owner laughed his head of, but agreed there was nothing the
police could do about it, because it was on its way for a pre booked
MOT. The law does not stipulate were, or how far away, the MOT
station should be. It passed, with no recommendation's, by the way.

Dave

I did this for many years when I lived in a bus (which had insurance
but no tax.)
When eviction / site moving time came,
book an MOT,
go for MOT,
pass or fail,

You do understand the difference between driving a car with no MOT and
driving an MOT failure?
Check that your insurance is valid if you are driving an un-roadworthy car.

return to new site.

[g]

yes its much more serious driving an unroadworthy vehicle than an
un-moted one,
legally morally and dangerously,
but you can fail a MOT if the indicator light flashing indicator bulb is
loose!

[g]

On 17/02/2010 22:47, dennis@home wrote:


"george [dicegeorge]" wrote in message
...


I did that with the daughters car when we met at Warwick services and
I brought it up to Preston to get an MOT and looked at for a water leak.
Garage owner laughed his head of, but agreed there was nothing the
police could do about it, because it was on its way for a pre booked
MOT. The law does not stipulate were, or how far away, the MOT
station should be. It passed, with no recommendation's, by the way.

Dave

I did this for many years when I lived in a bus (which had insurance
but no tax.)
When eviction / site moving time came,
book an MOT,
go for MOT,
pass or fail,

You do understand the difference between driving a car with no MOT and
driving an MOT failure?
Check that your insurance is valid if you are driving an un-roadworthy car.

return to new site.

[g]

Probably time I apologised for starting an OT subject. I did however
have no idea it would lead to the old MoT/unroadworthiness/insurance
discussion.
I suppose I could get out my angle grinder and take it to the dealer in
pieces, stick it back together with body filler and the WD40 must come
in somewhere.
Will probably get the dealer to sign for the car on the 28th so it is no
longer my car when the tax is due. Hoping the same dealer will collect
our other car for service on the 2nd and give me a lift to pick up the
new one.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "dennis@home"
saying something like:

I did this for many years when I lived in a bus (which had insurance but
no tax.)
When eviction / site moving time came,
book an MOT,
go for MOT,
pass or fail,

You do understand the difference between driving a car with no MOT and
driving an MOT failure?
Check that your insurance is valid if you are driving an un-roadworthy car.

the point .

Dennis, you've missed it, again.

The poster didn't actually say his old MoT had run out, did he?
You can get a vehicle MoTd as often as you like.

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:47:06 +0000, dennis@home wrote:
You do understand the difference between driving a car with no MOT and
driving an MOT failure?
Check that your insurance is valid if you are driving an un-roadworthy car.

I thought he was driving a bus?

fx: fossicks

aha: "I did this for many years when I lived in a bus"

Can we spell bus, Dennis? Can we? b - u - s

george [dicegeorge] wrote:


I did that with the daughters car when we met at Warwick services and
I brought it up to Preston to get an MOT and looked at for a water leak.
Garage owner laughed his head of, but agreed there was nothing the
police could do about it, because it was on its way for a pre booked
MOT. The law does not stipulate were, or how far away, the MOT station
should be. It passed, with no recommendation's, by the way.

Dave

I did this for many years when I lived in a bus (which had insurance but
no tax.)
When eviction / site moving time came,
book an MOT,
go for MOT,
pass or fail,
return to new site.

[g]

The law is an ass :-)

Dave

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
On 17/02/2010 14:54, Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and
manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

IME you have 1 month before the DVLA will issue a fine.

There is still the problem of being caught by ANPR on the way
there on
the 2nd - how about booking a MOT test?

I did that with the daughters car when we met at Warwick services
and I
brought it up to Preston to get an MOT and looked at for a water
leak.
Garage owner laughed his head of, but agreed there was nothing the
police could do about it, because it was on its way for a pre booked
MOT. The law does not stipulate were, or how far away, the MOT
station
should be. It passed, with no recommendation's, by the way.

Dave

Many many years ago I was 'done' for no MOT on my Frog Eyed Sprite, as
although I was on the way to a pre-booked MOT I stopped at a 'hole in
the wall' to get cash to pay for the MOT! Apparently you have to go
'directly' to the garage.

AWEM

Andrew Mawson wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
On 17/02/2010 14:54, Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and
manage without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

IME you have 1 month before the DVLA will issue a fine.

There is still the problem of being caught by ANPR on the way there
on the 2nd - how about booking a MOT test?

I did that with the daughters car when we met at Warwick services
and I brought it up to Preston to get an MOT and looked at for a
water leak. Garage owner laughed his head of, but agreed there was
nothing the police could do about it, because it was on its way for
a pre booked MOT. The law does not stipulate were, or how far away,
the MOT station should be. It passed, with no recommendation's, by
the way.

Dave

Many many years ago I was 'done' for no MOT on my Frog Eyed Sprite, as
although I was on the way to a pre-booked MOT I stopped at a 'hole in
the wall' to get cash to pay for the MOT! Apparently you have to go
'directly' to the garage.

Ouch! The stewards.

Clot wrote:
Andrew Mawson wrote:

Many many years ago I was 'done' for no MOT on my Frog Eyed Sprite, as
although I was on the way to a pre-booked MOT I stopped at a 'hole in
the wall' to get cash to pay for the MOT! Apparently you have to go
'directly' to the garage.

Ouch! The stewards.

Bar type I presume :-(

Dave

Andrew Mawson wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
On 17/02/2010 14:54, Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and
manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.
IME you have 1 month before the DVLA will issue a fine.

There is still the problem of being caught by ANPR on the way
there on
the 2nd - how about booking a MOT test?
I did that with the daughters car when we met at Warwick services
and I
brought it up to Preston to get an MOT and looked at for a water
leak.
Garage owner laughed his head of, but agreed there was nothing the
police could do about it, because it was on its way for a pre booked
MOT. The law does not stipulate were, or how far away, the MOT
station
should be. It passed, with no recommendation's, by the way.

Dave

Many many years ago I was 'done' for no MOT on my Frog Eyed Sprite, as
although I was on the way to a pre-booked MOT I stopped at a 'hole in
the wall' to get cash to pay for the MOT! Apparently you have to go
'directly' to the garage.

So stopping at a service area for a toilet break would be the same
thing, according to what you are saying. (remember, the car was
travelling with children in it for over 260 miles to its pre booked MOT
and repair.) I can't see the MOT tester liking soiled seats. Can you?

Dave

In article , Invisible Man
writes
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

To be squeaky clean you will have to SORN it and deliver it to the
dealer's premises before end of play 28th Feb, that will avoid any audit
of the vehicle's history showing it as untaxed. Make sure you send the
appropriate parts of your V5 to DVLA (whatever the dealer may say about
it) and check that you receive a confirmation of the transfer from DVLA
or keep chasing them until they do.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.


yup. And either register a SORN or simply say 'not my car'

Don't really want to tax for 6 or 12 months and get 5 or 11 months back.

Any other ideas?

TIA for any.

Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

Don't really want to tax for 6 or 12 months and get 5 or 11 months back.

Any other ideas?

TIA for any.

According to our son who is a member of Manchester police, the DVLA, nor
the police would get involved until after the time that it takes for the
DVLA computer to catch up. I don't know the number of days, but I would
expect it to be more than two. The police can phone insurance companies
up, but that is subject to even longer delays.

Dave

On 17/02/2010 18:56, Dave wrote:
Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and
manage without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

Don't really want to tax for 6 or 12 months and get 5 or 11 months back.

Any other ideas?

TIA for any.

According to our son who is a member of Manchester police, the DVLA, nor
the police would get involved until after the time that it takes for the
DVLA computer to catch up. I don't know the number of days, but I would
expect it to be more than two. The police can phone insurance companies
up, but that is subject to even longer delays.

Dave

Thanks Dave. I am not so worried about getting pulled over or having the
car picked up by a camera. I just think that if I send DVLA notice that
I sold the car on the 2nd they will want an explanation of where it was
for the 2 days since the road fund license expired.

On Feb 17, 7:18 pm, Invisible Man wrote:
On 17/02/2010 18:56, Dave wrote:



Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and
manage without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

Don't really want to tax for 6 or 12 months and get 5 or 11 months back.

Any other ideas?

TIA for any.

According to our son who is a member of Manchester police, the DVLA, nor
the police would get involved until after the time that it takes for the
DVLA computer to catch up. I don't know the number of days, but I would
expect it to be more than two. The police can phone insurance companies
up, but that is subject to even longer delays.

Dave

Thanks Dave. I am not so worried about getting pulled over or having the
car picked up by a camera. I just think that if I send DVLA notice that
I sold the car on the 2nd they will want an explanation of where it was
for the 2 days since the road fund license expired.

so:-

could/will they *make* you retrospectively apply for a 6month tax
disc from which you subsequently reclaim 5months tax? and is there a
fine? Ring em up and ask hypothetically?

faling that tell em you sold it on 28th even though you still drove it
(fully insured etc) for 2 days more? if plod's not gonna get you who
will?

JimK

JimK wrote:

faling that tell em you sold it on 28th even though you still drove it
(fully insured etc) for 2 days more? if plod's not gonna get you who
will?


The DVLA computer. It's a source of revenue...

Why don't you just drop it off 2 days early and declare it SORN?


Andy

On Feb 17, 8:59 pm, Andy Champ wrote:
JimK wrote:

faling that tell em you sold it on 28th even though you still drove it
(fully insured etc) for 2 days more? if plod's not gonna get you who
will?

The DVLA computer. It's a source of revenue...


shurely they'll be after the buyer/garage rather than OP/seller?

JimK

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:18:38 +0000, Invisible Man
wrote:

I am not so worried about getting pulled over or having the
car picked up by a camera. I just think that if I send DVLA notice that
I sold the car on the 2nd they will want an explanation of where it was
for the 2 days since the road fund license expired.

A bridge to be crossed if, and only if you come to it, I think.

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:18:38 +0000, Invisible Man
wrote:

I am not so worried about getting pulled over or having the
car picked up by a camera. I just think that if I send DVLA notice that
I sold the car on the 2nd they will want an explanation of where it was
for the 2 days since the road fund license expired.

A bridge to be crossed if, and only if you come to it, I think.

Say it was parked on their premises.

Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Any other ideas?

Get them to collect on trade plates?

Prebook an MOT at the garage, then cancel it when you arrive there?

Theo

On Feb 17, 2:54*pm, Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

Don't really want to tax for 6 or 12 months and get 5 or 11 months back.

Any other ideas?

TIA for any.

The garage is going to have to tax it. Why don't you renew the tax as
usual and get the garage to adjust the price to inlcude the (6 months
-2days) of tax.

Robert

RobertL wrote:
On Feb 17, 2:54 pm, Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Looks like the best option is to drop the car off on the 28th and manage
without until the new one is available on the 2nd.

Don't really want to tax for 6 or 12 months and get 5 or 11 months back.

Any other ideas?

TIA for any.

The garage is going to have to tax it.

No garage ever taxes a car.
Its SORN or something.


Why don't you renew the tax as
usual and get the garage to adjust the price to inlcude the (6 months
-2days) of tax.

Robert

Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Is this a real issue now, then (genuine question - have I missed
something? Just that I found myself in the identical position to the OP
a few months ago (deal was scheduled for 30th of previous month, but my
insurance co screwed up and failed to get the new cover note to the
dealer in time so they couldn't release the vehicle - something to do
with it being ex-Motability).

Anyway I decided to take a flyer for the trip to the dealer, and (I
thought) got away with it... am I to believe that the DVLA computer may
still come knocking at my door, then? :-(

David

On 18/02/2010 18:37, Lobster wrote:
Invisible Man wrote:
Car tax runs out the end of this month.

Car being traded in on 2nd of next month.

Don't suppose DVLA's computer would overlook the 2 days and doubt
whether the garage will backdate their ownership of the car.

Is this a real issue now, then (genuine question - have I missed
something? Just that I found myself in the identical position to the OP
a few months ago (deal was scheduled for 30th of previous month, but my
insurance co screwed up and failed to get the new cover note to the
dealer in time so they couldn't release the vehicle - something to do
with it being ex-Motability).

Anyway I decided to take a flyer for the trip to the dealer, and (I
thought) got away with it... am I to believe that the DVLA computer may
still come knocking at my door, then? :-(

David

David, absolutely no idea. I reckon you are probably safe after a few
months but now cars have to be either taxed or sorn all the time I
prefer to play it safe.