Hi All

I've been defeated by shut off valves seeming to go sticky and then
the plastic screw on valve handle snapping in the centre where the
screw fixes it. But I've just found the reason... well in my case at
least. The plastic hose (cold inlet pipe) with its plastic hand screw
tight threaded (female) connector fouls the full path of the valve's
plastic handle... but only when fully turned on. So it doesn't notice
when installing the inlet hose.

This is what makes the valve seem like its failing. The clearance is
so tight that the hose's screw on connector screws down too far
causing this problem. I wonder if the use of an additional washer
inside the inlet valve would help?

Anyone else noticed this happening?
Rgds., Tom

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:17:27 -0800 (PST), Tom
wrote:

Hi All

I've been defeated by shut off valves seeming to go sticky and then
the plastic screw on valve handle snapping in the centre where the
screw fixes it. But I've just found the reason... well in my case at
least. The plastic hose (cold inlet pipe) with its plastic hand screw
tight threaded (female) connector fouls the full path of the valve's
plastic handle... but only when fully turned on. So it doesn't notice
when installing the inlet hose.

This is what makes the valve seem like its failing. The clearance is
so tight that the hose's screw on connector screws down too far
causing this problem. I wonder if the use of an additional washer
inside the inlet valve would help?

Anyone else noticed this happening?
Rgds., Tom

Nope.Dunno where you got your hoses from but I have used several over
the years and never ever experienced this .
Buy another pair of hoses and try them .

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:17:27 -0800, Tom wrote:

Hi All

I've been defeated by shut off valves seeming to go sticky and then the
plastic screw on valve handle snapping in the centre where the screw
fixes it. But I've just found the reason... well in my case at least.
The plastic hose (cold inlet pipe) with its plastic hand screw tight
threaded (female) connector fouls the full path of the valve's plastic
handle... but only when fully turned on. So it doesn't notice when
installing the inlet hose.

This is what makes the valve seem like its failing. The clearance is so
tight that the hose's screw on connector screws down too far causing
this problem. I wonder if the use of an additional washer inside the
inlet valve would help?

Anyone else noticed this happening?
Rgds., Tom

Yes, the common cheap'n'nasty washing machine valves are a PITA. I've
seen some with much nicer little tab-style handles, but don't know where
to get them, and I have some with small knobs and mechanisms like
traditional taps rather than ball-type like isolation valves which are OK
but only available in straight (not right-angle or Tee). Of course one
could always just have a ball-type isolation or lever valve and separate
3/4" Male connector for the machine hose, or even hack a 3/4" x 1/2"
reducing bush onto the 1/2" threaded end of the 15mm compression fitting
of a suitable isolation or lever valve.


--
John Stumbles -- http://yaph.co.uk

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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:17:27 -0800 (PST), Tom
wrote:

Hi All

I've been defeated by shut off valves seeming to go sticky and then
the plastic screw on valve handle snapping in the centre where the
screw fixes it. But I've just found the reason... well in my case at
least. The plastic hose (cold inlet pipe) with its plastic hand screw
tight threaded (female) connector fouls the full path of the valve's
plastic handle... but only when fully turned on. So it doesn't notice
when installing the inlet hose.

This is what makes the valve seem like its failing. The clearance is
so tight that the hose's screw on connector screws down too far
causing this problem. I wonder if the use of an additional washer
inside the inlet valve would help?

Anyone else noticed this happening?
Rgds., Tom

Just thinking !! What part of the valve handle is it that is fouling
the hose connector ...presumably the short end ....if so can you not
file it down a bit so it doesn't foul the hose connector. Are the
valves fitted the correct way round in relation to the water flow ?

I have just looked at my hoses where they connect with the valves and
the lever on the valve has plenty of clearance between it and the
connector on the hose so perhaps your answer is to replace the valves
with better ones ..

Tom wrote:
Hi All

I've been defeated by shut off valves seeming to go sticky and then
the plastic screw on valve handle snapping in the centre where the
screw fixes it. But I've just found the reason... well in my case at
least. The plastic hose (cold inlet pipe) with its plastic hand screw
tight threaded (female) connector fouls the full path of the valve's
plastic handle... but only when fully turned on. So it doesn't notice
when installing the inlet hose.

Can't you take the valve handle off and refit them rotated by 180 degrees or
will they only fit in one orientation?

Tim

Thanks for all the replies - sorry, rotation of the valve can't be
done/doesn't work as they only go on one way ... and its the little
part at the end that has caused all the grief !

Yes cutting off the over-hanging end part of the coloured turning
lever/knob would probably work. Either that or getting some better
hoses - its the plastic connector on the cold one that is causing
this. Where should I get them from, B&Q, eBay, Robert Dyas ... ?

The valves I've used over the last 10 years at least are marketed
under the Primflow name from my local plumber's merchants - they are
also sold by on-line plumber's merchants too.

Cheers,
Tom