I planned on flush wall mounting Klik 6A sockets - lights, smoke/heat,
em-light.

Ceiling Rose KLIK will not seal against a conduit box (they wobble),
requiring either a deeper sunk box using plaster as the mating surface
or a surface mount pattress. AX KLIK however are a 1G faceplate so fit
standard backboxes.

It just occurred to me that Klik lacks shuttered pins - so industrial/
commercial only?

Table lamp BS546 sockets DO have shuttered sockets conversely - so
domestic legal.

In article ,
"js.b1" writes:
I planned on flush wall mounting Klik 6A sockets - lights, smoke/heat,
em-light.

Ceiling Rose KLIK will not seal against a conduit box (they wobble),
requiring either a deeper sunk box using plaster as the mating surface
or a surface mount pattress. AX KLIK however are a 1G faceplate so fit
standard backboxes.

It just occurred to me that Klik lacks shuttered pins - so industrial/
commercial only?

I choose to deliberately ignore in this case (the rule predates
Klik). It's quite difficult to make contact by sticking something
in the slots - it has to be very pointed and thin, or a bare
wire.

I use these for kitchen lighting where the lights are attached
to the kitchen wall units, and you run a flex back to a Klik
wall plate, but you don't expect to be frequently plugging and
unplugging them (e.g. only if you are taking down the kitchen
units). You can pre-wire the cupboards before putting them up,
and then simply plug them in. The outlets are on the walls
just above and just below the wall units. I always switch the
above outlets (general lighting) separately from the below
outlets (task lighting).

Table lamp BS546 sockets DO have shuttered sockets conversely - so
domestic legal.

Yes, they are if shuttered. (BS546 does not require them to
be shuttered though, so you may find unshuttered ones too.)
I have used 2 Amp BS546 for table lights switched from the
door in my living room. These feel more natural for lights
which people might move around, where the release mechanism
of the klik plugs is going to be unfamiliar to many.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On Oct 26, 6:04*pm, (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:
In article ,
* * * * "js.b1" writes:
It just occurred to me that Klik lacks shuttered pins - so industrial/
commercial only?

I choose to deliberately ignore in this case (the rule predates
Klik). It's quite difficult to make contact by sticking something
in the slots - it has to be very pointed and thin, or a bare wire.
I use these for kitchen lighting where the lights are attached
to the kitchen wall units, and you run a flex back to a Klik
wall plate, but you don't expect to be frequently plugging and
unplugging them (e.g. only if you are taking down the kitchen
units). You can pre-wire the cupboards before putting them up,
and then simply plug them in.

They work great - easy to change lights.

Currently I have a vertical 2G-47mm box with two MK grid cord-outlets
for lights & smoke.

I will add a Klik Architrave w/backbox above it.
The backbox will need side-entry, I suspect most do not, so it will be
hole-punch & grommet time. The ceiling will have to come down at some
point so it makes it *really* easy to unplug/refit/plug without
fighting screw terminals.

In article ,
"js.b1" writes:
On Oct 26, 6:04*pm, (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:
In article ,
* * * * "js.b1" writes:
It just occurred to me that Klik lacks shuttered pins - so industrial/
commercial only?

I choose to deliberately ignore in this case (the rule predates
Klik). It's quite difficult to make contact by sticking something
in the slots - it has to be very pointed and thin, or a bare wire.
I use these for kitchen lighting where the lights are attached
to the kitchen wall units, and you run a flex back to a Klik
wall plate, but you don't expect to be frequently plugging and
unplugging them (e.g. only if you are taking down the kitchen
units). You can pre-wire the cupboards before putting them up,
and then simply plug them in.
They work great - easy to change lights.
Currently I have a vertical 2G-47mm box with two MK grid cord-outlets
for lights & smoke.
I will add a Klik Architrave w/backbox above it.
The backbox will need side-entry, I suspect most do not, so it will be
hole-punch & grommet time. The ceiling will have to come down at some

The holes in architrave back boxes are smaller than normal anyway.
I never have any grommets which fit, so I end up cutting a piece
out of a 20mm grommet to make it smaller, but still slightly too
big so it's a tight fit and won't pop out.

point so it makes it *really* easy to unplug/refit/plug without
fighting screw terminals.

There's a completely flush wall mounting variant which is designed
to mate with a plug built into the back of a wall light, which also
supports the light. I thought that was a smart idea, but I've never
seen any wall lights with the plug built in. I looked at modifying
a sconce uplight I was planning on using to work this way, but the
rear didn't have enough space.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On Oct 26, 7:43*pm, (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:
There's a completely flush wall mounting variant which is designed
to mate with a plug built into the back of a wall light, which also
supports the light. I thought that was a smart idea, but I've never
seen any wall lights with the plug built in. I looked at modifying
a sconce uplight I was planning on using to work this way, but the
rear didn't have enough space.

It is a pity.

Consider how many people buy lights, then meet The Loop In Ceiling
Rose. Klik would eliminate problems, it might even make Ikea light
fittings usable... ok, perhaps not.

I think Klik could get a "above 2m shuttered outlet is not a necessity
for 6A fittings with RCD protection", just needs a Stakeholder White
Paper.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:07:45 -0700 (PDT), js.b1 wrote:

On Oct 26, 7:43*pm, (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:
There's a completely flush wall mounting variant which is designed
to mate with a plug built into the back of a wall light, which also
supports the light. I thought that was a smart idea, but I've never
seen any wall lights with the plug built in. I looked at modifying
a sconce uplight I was planning on using to work this way, but the
rear didn't have enough space.

It is a pity.

Consider how many people buy lights, then meet The Loop In Ceiling
Rose. Klik would eliminate problems, it might even make Ikea light
fittings usable... ok, perhaps not.

I think Klik could get a "above 2m shuttered outlet is not a necessity
for 6A fittings with RCD protection", just needs a Stakeholder White
Paper.

The loop in ceiling rose is just a pain. When I wired my house, I wired
everything to junction boxes, with just a single drop of twin and earth to
each ceiling rose - so much easier when I've wanted to change to different
light fittings which don't require a traditional rose.

SteveW