I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be free.
I am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good value.
However it seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any suggestions
as to an alternative, either free or about the same price? Is it getting
slower or is my system, like me, just growing old and tired?

Broadback wrote:
I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be
free. I am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good
value. However it seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any
suggestions as to an alternative, either free or about the same
price? Is it getting slower or is my system, like me, just growing
old and tired?

I've not noticed any deterioration of the service.

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Reentrant

Broadback wrote:
I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be
free. I am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good
value. However it seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any
suggestions as to an alternative, either free or about the same
price? Is it getting slower or is my system, like me, just growing
old and tired?

Broadback,

I've noticed no problems here with individual.net. Have you tried doing
some maintenance on your newsreader such as resetting the groups?

Cash

Broadback wrote:
I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be free.
I am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good value.
However it seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any suggestions
as to an alternative, either free or about the same price? Is it getting
slower or is my system, like me, just growing old and tired?

Have you killfiled a lot of threads/posters?
I periodically clear my killfiles, as full files seem to seriously slow
downloads.

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:11:44 +0000, Broadback wrote:

I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be free.
I am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good value.
However it seems to be steadily getting slower,

Not noticed anything here. How much news have you got horded away on your
PC? Some programs store news is single files, once these get "a bit big"
adding new articles to them becomes a slow process. This sort of fits with
your "steadily slower" symptom.

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Cheers
Dave.

Broadback wrote:
I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be free.
I am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good value.
However it seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any suggestions
as to an alternative, either free or about the same price? Is it getting
slower or is my system, like me, just growing old and tired?

Is your ISP doing some underhand "traffic management?"

--
Adrian C

Is your ISP doing some underhand "traffic management?"

Pipex did this for a while, it was taking up to 20 minutes to get the
headers for about 15 groups with only up to 200 posts per day, and 5
minutes per individual post to download several lines of plain text.

In article ,
Colin Wilson o.uk
wrote:
Is your ISP doing some underhand "traffic management?"

Pipex did this for a while, it was taking up to 20 minutes to get the
headers for about 15 groups with only up to 200 posts per day, and 5
minutes per individual post to download several lines of plain text.

They actually disabled newsgroup access totally here at some times of the
day for a while. I wrote to them and said if this continues I'd move ISP.
And it wasn't just their 'own' server I couldn't get but all the others I
tried.
Luckily things are back to normal.

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*Two wrongs are only the beginning *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:02:08 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Colin Wilson o.uk
wrote:
Is your ISP doing some underhand "traffic management?"

Pipex did this for a while, it was taking up to 20 minutes to get the
headers for about 15 groups with only up to 200 posts per day, and 5
minutes per individual post to download several lines of plain text.

They actually disabled newsgroup access totally here at some times of the
day for a while. I wrote to them and said if this continues I'd move ISP.
And it wasn't just their 'own' server I couldn't get but all the others I
tried.

I was with Tiscali. They did the same. I pointed out that they were
cutting me off from a paid for service. Ignored so I walked

Luckily things are back to normal.

Not for long

They actually disabled newsgroup access totally here at some times of the
day for a while. I wrote to them and said if this continues I'd move ISP.

In my case, they completely ignored the complaint, despite several
attempts at following up.

When I finally came to move ISP (and involved the chairman, chief exec
and finance director at Pipex as I was being fscked around royally)
they were "surprised" when I told them how bad their "service" had
become.

In article ,
Colin Wilson o.uk
wrote:
They actually disabled newsgroup access totally here at some times of
the day for a while. I wrote to them and said if this continues I'd
move ISP.

In my case, they completely ignored the complaint, despite several
attempts at following up.

Well it went back to normal here and has stayed so.

When I finally came to move ISP (and involved the chairman, chief exec
and finance director at Pipex as I was being fscked around royally)
they were "surprised" when I told them how bad their "service" had
become.

Apart from the news issue I've only had dealings with them three times
when my broadband failed. Each time it was down to BT. The first time Ok
service from their help line. Second time the worst I've ever known from
any - just about changed ISP there and then. If it had been working I
would have done. ;-) Third time possibly the best help ever from a help
line - the dutch sounding guy couldn't do enough.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Huge wrote:
On 2009-03-28, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Colin Wilson o.uk
wrote:
Is your ISP doing some underhand "traffic management?"

Pipex did this for a while, it was taking up to 20 minutes to get the
headers for about 15 groups with only up to 200 posts per day, and 5
minutes per individual post to download several lines of plain text.

They actually disabled newsgroup access totally here at some times of
the day for a while. I wrote to them and said if this continues I'd
move ISP. And it wasn't just their 'own' server I couldn't get but all
the others I tried. Luckily things are back to normal.

You were lucky. I've complained to anyone at Tiscali I can get hold of,
to absolutely no avail.

Dunno if it matters but anything that comes through to here still says
Pipex. Regardless of who the owner is.

But news has been fine for the last few months - apart from a new message
saying 'server error 501 - no such list available'- which doesn't stop the
download.

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*If at first you don't succeed, try management *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:


But news has been fine for the last few months - apart from a new message
saying 'server error 501 - no such list available'- which doesn't stop the
download.

Now that's interesting. I started getting that error from Eclipse.co.uk at
the beginning of last week. Subscribed to NIN and it all works fine again.
Eclipse are unable to locate the problem, no doubt because it doesn't affect
BillyGoat Bloatware. :-)

In my case though, using Ant, the fetch aborted every time.

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http://www.classicmicrocars.co.uk : http://www.ajlelectronics.co.uk

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be free. I
am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good value. However it
seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any suggestions as to an
alternative, either free or about the same price? Is it getting slower or
is my system, like me, just growing old and tired?

There are hundreds of free servers about. You do not need to pay. You
might
have noticed that paying provides no advantage.
If you can post to a newsgroup there is no excuse for not finding the
information
for yourself.

"Clive" wrote in message
...

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be free. I
am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good value. However
it seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any suggestions as to an
alternative, either free or about the same price? Is it getting slower or
is my system, like me, just growing old and tired?

There are hundreds of free servers about. You do not need to pay. You
might
have noticed that paying provides no advantage.
If you can post to a newsgroup there is no excuse for not finding the
information
for yourself.

**** off **** boy

In article , Clive
George writes
"Clive" wrote in message
...

"Broadback" wrote in message
...
I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be free. I
am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good value. However
it seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any suggestions as to an
alternative, either free or about the same price? Is it getting slower or
is my system, like me, just growing old and tired?

There are hundreds of free servers about. You do not need to pay. You
might
have noticed that paying provides no advantage.
If you can post to a newsgroup there is no excuse for not finding the
information
for yourself.

**** off **** boy

Now _that's_ what I call a snappy comeback :-D
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:33:54 -0000, Clive wrote:

There are hundreds of free servers about. You do not need to pay. You
might have noticed that paying provides no advantage.

You get what you pay for. Or in the case of NIN you pay for *not* getting
the spam.

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Cheers
Dave.

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:11:44 UTC, Broadback wrote:

I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be free.
I am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good value.
However it seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any suggestions
as to an alternative, either free or about the same price? Is it getting
slower or is my system, like me, just growing old and tired?

No problem here with it at all.
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Broadback wrote:
I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be free.
I am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good value.
However it seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any suggestions
as to an alternative, either free or about the same price? Is it getting
slower or is my system, like me, just growing old and tired?

Same variation I expect on all servers - sometimes blindingly fast,
sometimes a bit slower. Quite often I find my anti-virus updates are
actually why it appears to be running slowly.

But why has this thread got the subject "mail reader"? - Seems you are
asking about mail server. I was expecting another rehash of the 'which
news reader software' debate.

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:17:17 UTC, Rod wrote:

Broadback wrote:
I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be free.
I am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good value.
However it seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any suggestions
as to an alternative, either free or about the same price? Is it getting
slower or is my system, like me, just growing old and tired?

Same variation I expect on all servers - sometimes blindingly fast,
sometimes a bit slower. Quite often I find my anti-virus updates are
actually why it appears to be running slowly.

But why has this thread got the subject "mail reader"? - Seems you are
asking about mail server.

Actually, he's asking about news server! :-)

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Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:17:17 UTC, Rod wrote:

Broadback wrote:
I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be free.
I am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good value.
However it seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any suggestions
as to an alternative, either free or about the same price? Is it getting
slower or is my system, like me, just growing old and tired?
Same variation I expect on all servers - sometimes blindingly fast,
sometimes a bit slower. Quite often I find my anti-virus updates are
actually why it appears to be running slowly.

But why has this thread got the subject "mail reader"? - Seems you are
asking about mail server.

Actually, he's asking about news server! :-)


Indeed - and what you *know* I meant. :-)

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

Broadback wrote:

I have used News.individual.net for some years when it used to be
free. I am due to renew my subscription, at E10 for the year good
value. However it seems to be steadily getting slower, anyone any
suggestions as to an alternative, either free or about the same
price? Is it getting slower or is my system, like me, just growing
old and tired?

Motzarella is free, and seems to work OK.

I have just switched from N.I.N.

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Motzarella is free, and seems to work OK.
I have just switched from N.I.N.

Seconded - been using them for about 12 months following hassle being
able to pay for N.I.N. using three different valid credit cards
(rejected by the payment processor)

Colin Wilson wrote:
Motzarella is free, and seems to work OK.
I have just switched from N.I.N.

Seconded - been using them for about 12 months following hassle being
able to pay for N.I.N. using three different valid credit cards
(rejected by the payment processor)
Thanks for all the help, I will try Motzarella and see how it goes.