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Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able
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On 21 Feb, 15:43, molley wrote:
Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . Stuart Nor have I. Nor is the web site working. Ha - it is now, and shows this message: "Important Notice: News server maintenance ongoing NNTP access currently might be limited or impossible. Please try again later." Great. Not. (Google groups seems like the obvious way of posting in this circumstance. One reason I don't dismiss all posts through Google.) -- Rod |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:43:44 -0800 (PST), molley
wrote: Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . Stuart Try swapping from eu to us or vice versa. It is rare both servers are down. |
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Alang wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:43:44 -0800 (PST), molley wrote: Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . Stuart Try swapping from eu to us or vice versa. It is rare both servers are down. Alan, please explain more fully? |
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On 21 Feb, 16:48, "Ophelia" wrote:
Alang wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:43:44 -0800 (PST), molley wrote: Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . Stuart Try swapping from eu to us or vice versa. It is rare both servers are down. Alan, please explain more fully? Yeah.I don't understand either ..it's just news.individual.net I use . Also I forgot they had a website ..silly me . |
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"molley" wrote in message
... Also I forgot they had a website ..silly me . All OK now. Ian |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:46:34 +0000, Alang
wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:43:44 -0800 (PST), molley wrote: Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . Stuart Try swapping from eu to us or vice versa. It is rare both servers are down. Sorry wrong news server |
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"Ian F." wrote in message ... "molley" wrote in message ... Also I forgot they had a website ..silly me . All OK now. I'm getting lots of 'Message is no longer available on the server' reports on my NIN newsgroups; presumably related. . . |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:02:33 +0000, Froot Bat wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:43:44 -0800 (PST), molley wrote: Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . Ah, uk.d-i-y and uk.media.tv.misc are now NIN support groups? No? Then ever considered sending an email, genius? Nah, course not. Whatever would you do that for, eh? Ah yes.I want to update my Usenet Groups messages or I want to post a Usenet message to any number of Usenet groups using Agent via News Individual .Net but I can't so how do I do it .I know ...I'll send an e-mail ...err no I won't cos that won't work it will it ? **** |
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Vaidd wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:43:44 -0800 (PST), molley wrote: Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . Stuart Yes same problem here. Server not responding Vaidd, The server was down for servicing earlier today - as blasted from the www.news.individual.net website for a while - all working ok now, obviously! Cash |
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Cash wrote:
Vaidd wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:43:44 -0800 (PST), molley wrote: Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . Stuart Yes same problem here. Server not responding Vaidd, The server was down for servicing earlier today - as blasted from the www.news.individual.net website for a while - all working ok now, obviously! Cash Vaidd, Apologies - I though that you were the OP until I re-read the post (after sending mine [as usual]) - that's the problem with globally kill-filing all google and gmail accounts to cut down on the spam. Cash |
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Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able
to get connected for hours . I moved to motzarella.org when I got ****ed around over them failing to take payment from 3 different credit cards. The service is just as good, and completely free. |
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Colin Wilson wrote:
I moved to motzarella.org when I got ****ed around over them failing to take payment from 3 different credit cards. The service is just as good, and completely free. Yup. Me too. Another Dave |
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Sam Nelson wrote:
In article , says... Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . I moved to motzarella.org when I got ****ed around over them failing to take payment from 3 different credit cards. The service is just as good, and completely free. Motzarellea urns me down, reporting that it's `too busy' about once in four. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. I won't pay for usenet out of principle frankly , not even a few pounds. I use both Motzarella and AIOE - Motzarella often tiems out under heavy load and AIOE occasionally only has some of the messages in a thread - not showing others at all. |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:33:06 -0000, Colin Wilson
o.uk wrote: Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . I moved to motzarella.org when I got ****ed around over them failing to take payment from 3 different credit cards. Tell me about it. It took months for Click&Buy to accomplish the simple task of updating the expiry date of my MasterCard (without changing the other details) OR deleting the old record and creating a new one, OR doing any of the other things one might logically think of doing in that situation. Their website made it literally logically impossible to extricate oneself from the problem, and their customer service people repeatedly failed to understand or respond to my simple explanations of what the problem was. How it eventually got sorted out, I forget, and I never even completely knew, because I was so fed up with it that I never even read their final e-mail to me on the subject. Somehow my credit card did in the end get debited, because someone at their end must in the end have updated the details manually. It wasn't as bad as dealing with the Inland Revenue spit, but it made about as little sense. The service is just as good, and completely free. If the credit card nonsense happens again, I'll look into that - thanks for the tip! Meanwhile, I'm as happy as ever with Nine Inch Nails ... sorry, News.Individual.NET ... themselves, just not their payment system. (The old payment system worked fine.) The notice is still up there at their website: "Important Notice: News server maintenance ongoing NNTP access currently might be limited or impossible. Please try again later." No access problems for me since yesterday, though. -- Angus Rodgers |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:51:35 +0000, Sofa - Spud
wrote: I won't pay for usenet out of principle frankly , not even a few pounds. What principle is that? I'm a Usenet junkie myself, and also I'm always short of money, but it has never bothered me to pay 10 Euros a year to News.Individual.NET. What bothers me is that so few people these days have even /heard/ of Usenet, and keep on using appallingly clunky message board systems (or worse, blogs), while demanding improvements that were part of Usenet when it was designed. -- Angus Rodgers |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:51:35 +0000, Sofa - Spud
wrote: Sam Nelson wrote: In article , says... Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . I moved to motzarella.org when I got ****ed around over them failing to take payment from 3 different credit cards. The service is just as good, and completely free. Motzarellea urns me down, reporting that it's `too busy' about once in four. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. I won't pay for usenet out of principle frankly , not even a few pounds. I use both Motzarella and AIOE - Motzarella often tiems out under heavy load and AIOE occasionally only has some of the messages in a thread - not showing others at all. I paid a fiver for a few gigs of data from usenet-news about 18months ago. Still got almost 3 gigs so at this rate I'll be needing more in 2011. Another fiver... |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:51:35 +0000, Sofa - Spud
wrote: Sam Nelson wrote: In article , says... Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . I moved to motzarella.org when I got ****ed around over them failing to take payment from 3 different credit cards. The service is just as good, and completely free. Motzarellea urns me down, reporting that it's `too busy' about once in four. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. I won't pay for usenet out of principle frankly , not even a few pounds. What principle is that? |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:51:35 UTC, Sofa - Spud
wrote: I won't pay for usenet out of principle frankly , not even a few pounds. What principle exactly? Do you expect everything to be free? -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
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Sofa - Spud wrote:
Sam Nelson wrote: In article , says... Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . I moved to motzarella.org when I got ****ed around over them failing to take payment from 3 different credit cards. The service is just as good, and completely free. Motzarellea urns me down, reporting that it's `too busy' about once in four. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. I won't pay for usenet out of principle frankly , I gladly pay to support News.Individual.NET, also out of principle. We don't want to be left with no alternative to Google Groups in a few years from now. |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:51:35 +0000, Sofa - Spud wrote: Sam Nelson wrote: In article , says... Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . I moved to motzarella.org when I got ****ed around over them failing to take payment from 3 different credit cards. The service is just as good, and completely free. Motzarellea urns me down, reporting that it's `too busy' about once in four. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. I won't pay for usenet out of principle frankly , not even a few pounds. What principle is that? That I'd not want to pay to read the screeds of ****e that often get posted here - not when I can get it for free! |
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Steve Walker wrote:
Sofa - Spud wrote: Sam Nelson wrote: In article , says... Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . I moved to motzarella.org when I got ****ed around over them failing to take payment from 3 different credit cards. The service is just as good, and completely free. Motzarellea urns me down, reporting that it's `too busy' about once in four. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. I won't pay for usenet out of principle frankly , I gladly pay to support News.Individual.NET, also out of principle. We don't want to be left with no alternative to Google Groups in a few years from now. Very nice but NiN aren't doing it out of principle if they don't turn a profit they shut. |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:22:09 UTC, Sofa - Spud
wrote: Steve Walker wrote: Sofa - Spud wrote: Sam Nelson wrote: In article , says... Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . I moved to motzarella.org when I got ****ed around over them failing to take payment from 3 different credit cards. The service is just as good, and completely free. Motzarellea urns me down, reporting that it's `too busy' about once in four. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. I won't pay for usenet out of principle frankly , I gladly pay to support News.Individual.NET, also out of principle. We don't want to be left with no alternative to Google Groups in a few years from now. Very nice but NiN aren't doing it out of principle if they don't turn a profit they shut. So how do motzarella do it? -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:21:01 +0000, Sofa - Spud
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:51:35 +0000, Sofa - Spud wrote: Sam Nelson wrote: In article , says... Anyone using"news individual.net" as a news server .I've not been able to get connected for hours . I moved to motzarella.org when I got ****ed around over them failing to take payment from 3 different credit cards. The service is just as good, and completely free. Motzarellea urns me down, reporting that it's `too busy' about once in four. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. I won't pay for usenet out of principle frankly , not even a few pounds. What principle is that? That I'd not want to pay to read the screeds of ****e that often get posted here - not when I can get it for free! Barker's stuff has to be worth a few quid for entertainment value alone. :) |
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Froot Bat wrote:
It may not be costing _you_ any money, but it'll be costing someone. And? Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo and 100s of other email providers don't cost me any money either. What's your point? That you don't have a ****ing clue how the internet economy works? And running "Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo and 100s of other email providers" doesn't cost anyone any money? Course it does. It directly costs "Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo and 100s of other email providers" . And it indirectly costs all of us who end up paying for the advertising. -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:37:45 UTC, Froot Bat wrote:
On 22 Feb 2009 20:18:56 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:51:35 UTC, Sofa - Spud wrote: I won't pay for usenet out of principle frankly , not even a few pounds. What principle exactly? Do you expect everything to be free? Perhaps he just expects usenet to be free. And why not, it always has been. Not really. I've been using it for 27 years, and someone has always had to pay something in all that time. Mainly my employer...who actually sold Usenet services to the UK years ago. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:54:42 UTC, Froot Bat wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:12:34 -0000, Sam Nelson wrote: In article , says... On 22 Feb 2009 20:18:56 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:51:35 UTC, Sofa - Spud wrote: I won't pay for usenet out of principle frankly , not even a few pounds. So, let's get this straight. You don't think ISPs should provide news servers because it isn't their job to do that, and you want a news service for free. Exactly where is that going to come from? Try alt.free.newsservers. Or try reading this thread. It may not be costing _you_ any money, but it'll be costing someone. And? Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo and 100s of other email providers don't cost me any money either. What's your point? That you don't have a ****ing clue how the internet economy works? No, the point is that you are naive to the point of absurdity. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
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Froot Bat wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:20:52 +0000, Rod wrote: Froot Bat wrote: It may not be costing _you_ any money, but it'll be costing someone. And? Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo and 100s of other email providers don't cost me any money either. What's your point? That you don't have a ****ing clue how the internet economy works? And running "Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo and 100s of other email providers" doesn't cost anyone any money? Course it does. Is this a private conversation between you and you, or can anyone join in? Did I deny that it costs them money? Nope. Pretty sure the word "And?" shows I agreeed. If you can find someone to read my post to you, until it sinks in, you'll see I wrote they don't cost _me_ any money. Take your time and see if you can spot the difference between the word "me" and the words "Gmail" or "Hotmail" or "Yahoo". It directly costs "Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo and 100s of other email providers" . And it indirectly costs all of us who end up paying for the advertising. Funny, I don't recall paying for any advertising. I'm pretty sure the people advertising do that. But what do I know, you're the one writing my posts for me. Not worth the ink to respond... -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
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Bruce wrote:
wrote: I've never had a problem with PayPal, but even if you do think they're "sharp" my point was that by backing it with a credit card, it's not your money that's at risk, it's the CC company's. That is no longer the case. Many credit card issuers will not refund PayPal transactions. Some even treat a PayPal transaction as a cash advance, and charge you a 2.5% surcharge - plus you incur interest from Day 1, not the date of your next statement. Is that right? Hadn't heard of that. |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:17:20 UTC, Sofa - Spud
wrote: Bruce wrote: wrote: I've never had a problem with PayPal, but even if you do think they're "sharp" my point was that by backing it with a credit card, it's not your money that's at risk, it's the CC company's. That is no longer the case. Many credit card issuers will not refund PayPal transactions. Some even treat a PayPal transaction as a cash advance, and charge you a 2.5% surcharge - plus you incur interest from Day 1, not the date of your next statement. Is that right? Hadn't heard of that. Yes. Some even charge a flat 'cash advance' fee in addition. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
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"Bruce" wrote in message ... wrote: I've never had a problem with PayPal, but even if you do think they're "sharp" my point was that by backing it with a credit card, it's not your money that's at risk, it's the CC company's. That is no longer the case. Many credit card issuers will not refund PayPal transactions. Some even treat a PayPal transaction as a cash advance, and charge you a 2.5% surcharge - plus you incur interest from Day 1, not the date of your next statement. Visa on Barclaycard don't and they're probably the largest single CC provider in the UK. They were also among the first. There's no annual charge, no charge for using Paypal, and zero interest payable if the outstanding balance is cleared each month. Together with a detailed monthly statement. All totally free to the user and paid for by the merchant. If people instead choose to get ripped off by their clearly inferior competitors then whose fault is that exactly ? michael adams .... |
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michael adams wrote:
"Bruce" wrote in message ... wrote: I've never had a problem with PayPal, but even if you do think they're "sharp" my point was that by backing it with a credit card, it's not your money that's at risk, it's the CC company's. That is no longer the case. Many credit card issuers will not refund PayPal transactions. Some even treat a PayPal transaction as a cash advance, and charge you a 2.5% surcharge - plus you incur interest from Day 1, not the date of your next statement. Visa on Barclaycard don't and they're probably the largest single CC provider in the UK. They were also among the first. There's no annual charge, no charge for using Paypal, and zero interest payable if the outstanding balance is cleared each month. Together with a detailed monthly statement. All totally free to the user and paid for by the merchant. If people instead choose to get ripped off by their clearly inferior competitors then whose fault is that exactly ? I'm not aware of any extra charges form using Mastercard on PayPal , it has been quite a while since I used PP. All the other stuff applies as with Visa - no charge , zero interest - who doesn't pay it all off anyway? |
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"Sofa - Spud" wrote in message ... michael adams wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message ... wrote: I've never had a problem with PayPal, but even if you do think they're "sharp" my point was that by backing it with a credit card, it's not your money that's at risk, it's the CC company's. That is no longer the case. Many credit card issuers will not refund PayPal transactions. Some even treat a PayPal transaction as a cash advance, and charge you a 2.5% surcharge - plus you incur interest from Day 1, not the date of your next statement. Visa on Barclaycard don't and they're probably the largest single CC provider in the UK. They were also among the first. There's no annual charge, no charge for using Paypal, and zero interest payable if the outstanding balance is cleared each month. Together with a detailed monthly statement. All totally free to the user and paid for by the merchant. If people instead choose to get ripped off by their clearly inferior competitors then whose fault is that exactly ? I'm not aware of any extra charges form using Mastercard on PayPal , it has been quite a while since I used PP. All the other stuff applies as with Visa - no charge , zero interest - who doesn't pay it all off anyway? It's probably the cards that give you the free carriage clock or pen when you join, or a picture of a panda on the card, that charge for Paypal. michael adams .... |
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"Bob Eager" wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:17:20 UTC, Sofa - Spud wrote: Bruce wrote: wrote: I've never had a problem with PayPal, but even if you do think they're "sharp" my point was that by backing it with a credit card, it's not your money that's at risk, it's the CC company's. That is no longer the case. Many credit card issuers will not refund PayPal transactions. Some even treat a PayPal transaction as a cash advance, and charge you a 2.5% surcharge - plus you incur interest from Day 1, not the date of your next statement. Is that right? Hadn't heard of that. Yes. Some even charge a flat 'cash advance' fee in addition. That is the 2.5% I mentioned. |
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And where is usenet-news "resident"? Or "CCdeb" their payment
processor (owned by the same people): http://ccdeb.com ? I'm sure they're kosher, but they do a bloody good job of ensuring I wouldn't trust them with my CC details. You're in the UK I presume, so even if there were "dodgy" transactions appearing on your card, unless they can prove you're liable, they have to remove them. FWIW though, I signed up with them about 12 months ago and had no strange activity appear on my card. |
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