I need to upgrade our door locks. The rear doors' Euro cylinders were no
problem - undo M6 bolt, turn key about 20 degrees, slide out.
But the front door - also upvc - is different. It's a Yale fitting but
there's no securing bolt into the cylinder from the edge of the door. Even
thought there's a hole in the right place in the decorative trim, behind
that a plate slides across when the deadlocks are engaged, so it can't be
bolted that way.
I thought maybe it was bolted from the other (hinge-ward) side so removed
the double-glazing-like beading from the stiles/rails, but the whole inner
panel of the door has been secured with silicone, and the panel covers where
the bolt head would be. So if it was bolted from the inside they would have
fitted the lock before assembling the door, which seems unlikely.

Any suggestions? Last resort is to get a locksmith to snap the cylinder and
advise how to fix a replacement. (I had a half-hearted attemt at snapping
but didn't want to end up with a bent but otherwise intact cylinder still
fixed in place).

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Reentrant

In article , Reentrant
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I need to upgrade our door locks. The rear doors' Euro cylinders were no
problem - undo M6 bolt, turn key about 20 degrees, slide out.
But the front door - also upvc - is different. It's a Yale fitting but
there's no securing bolt into the cylinder from the edge of the door. Even
thought there's a hole in the right place in the decorative trim, behind
that a plate slides across when the deadlocks are engaged, so it can't be
bolted that way.
I thought maybe it was bolted from the other (hinge-ward) side so removed
the double-glazing-like beading from the stiles/rails, but the whole inner
panel of the door has been secured with silicone, and the panel covers where
the bolt head would be. So if it was bolted from the inside they would have
fitted the lock before assembling the door, which seems unlikely.

Any suggestions? Last resort is to get a locksmith to snap the cylinder and
advise how to fix a replacement. (I had a half-hearted attemt at snapping
but didn't want to end up with a bent but otherwise intact cylinder still
fixed in place).

Can you see anything through the hole that is in the right place but
can't be used? If it big enough that a screw could be inside but just
accessed via that hole? Could anything have sheared off?

I've never seen a Euro not secured by that middle hole.
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fred
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fred wrote:
In article , Reentrant
writes
I need to upgrade our door locks. The rear doors' Euro cylinders
were no problem - undo M6 bolt, turn key about 20 degrees, slide out.
But the front door - also upvc - is different. It's a Yale fitting
but there's no securing bolt into the cylinder from the edge of the
door. Even thought there's a hole in the right place in the
decorative trim, behind that a plate slides across when the
deadlocks are engaged, so it can't be bolted that way.
I thought maybe it was bolted from the other (hinge-ward) side so
removed the double-glazing-like beading from the stiles/rails, but
the whole inner panel of the door has been secured with silicone,
and the panel covers where the bolt head would be. So if it was
bolted from the inside they would have fitted the lock before
assembling the door, which seems unlikely. Any suggestions? Last resort
is to get a locksmith to snap the
cylinder and advise how to fix a replacement. (I had a half-hearted
attemt at snapping but didn't want to end up with a bent but
otherwise intact cylinder still fixed in place).

Can you see anything through the hole that is in the right place but
can't be used? If it big enough that a screw could be inside but just
accessed via that hole? Could anything have sheared off?

I've never seen a Euro not secured by that middle hole.

It's too recessed to see - torch gets in the way of eye-line. The local
locksmith suggested it might be an Allen bolt. I had tried feeling with
various metric and imperial Allen keys but none gripped. I'll give that
another go, otherwise it's brute force and mole grips.

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Reentrant