I've now replastered the walls in the spare room and they are looking good
(by the time I've finished the house I might actually be able to plaster!)
however the ceiling isn't so hot. I've not keen on trying to plaster this
(tried before, couldn't work out how to turn gravity off) and but the ceiling
isn't exactly in great nick.

I've patched up the bit that had come lose from the the lathes but there
are a couple cracks across the rest. I know the correct solution would beto pull it down and redo it but I can't face the mess (and I don't reallyhave time) so looking around B&Q I find several "wonder" products thatpromise to solve all my problems...

Anyone tried the polycell Basecoat stuff?

http://www.polycell.co.uk/products/p..._basecoat.html

or maybe the Polycell "Crack free ceilings" product?

http://www.polycell.co.uk/products/p..._ceilings.html

Or maybe Polycell "Textured ceilings"

http://www.polycell.co.uk/products/p..._finish.htm l

I assume the last of these is a bit like artex? If so, most of the rest of the
rooms have a textured ceiling so this could be easily be SWMBO approved - if
I can make a half decent job of applying it. Is it easy to use (or maybe
even proper artex?).

I've never used any of these textured finished - how easy is it to get a
reasonable finish? I'm looking for something fairly subtle - not huge peaks

It claims "Use a foam roller for maximum texture or a fibre roller for a
finer texture" - wtf is a "medium texture"??

Someone on here must have used this stuff - is it any good (I'm worried it'll
go wrong and I'll spend the next weekend trying to scrape the bloody stuff
off again )

Cheers,

Darren

dmc wrote:
I've now replastered the walls in the spare room and they are looking
good (by the time I've finished the house I might actually be able to
plaster!)
however the ceiling isn't so hot. I've not keen on trying to plaster
this (tried before, couldn't work out how to turn gravity off) and
but the ceiling
isn't exactly in great nick.

I've patched up the bit that had come lose from the the lathes but
there
are a couple cracks across the rest. I know the correct solution
would beto pull it down and redo it but I can't face the mess (and I
don't reallyhave time) so looking around B&Q I find several "wonder"
products thatpromise to solve all my problems...

Anyone tried the polycell Basecoat stuff?

http://www.polycell.co.uk/products/p..._basecoat.html

or maybe the Polycell "Crack free ceilings" product?

http://www.polycell.co.uk/products/p..._ceilings.html

Or maybe Polycell "Textured ceilings"

http://www.polycell.co.uk/products/p..._finish.htm l

I assume the last of these is a bit like artex? If so, most of the
rest of the
rooms have a textured ceiling so this could be easily be SWMBO
approved - if
I can make a half decent job of applying it. Is it easy to use (or
maybe
even proper artex?).

TBH they all look absolutely ****e, the adverts are quite entertaining
though, with the hot chick just flopping it on and getting excellent results
while making it look like a piece of ****....the sad fact is this:
It's astronomically priced inthat it would be cheaper to have a plasterer
come to your house and reboard and skim the ceiling, giving you in effect, a
blank canvas to do with as you please....and BTW, you don't need to pull
anything down, you can board over the existing ceiling


I've never used any of these textured finished - how easy is it to
get a
reasonable finish? I'm looking for something fairly subtle - not huge
peaks

practically impossible, the best effort I ever saw was in a house in
Manchester, and even then it still looked like someone had painstakingly
stapled dry roasted peanuts to the ceiling - big ugly blobs everywhere, but
at least they were evenly spaced, almost every other attempt I have
witnessed has been a complete abortion....patches as rough as a bears arse
and other patches as flat as a witch's tit


It claims "Use a foam roller for maximum texture or a fibre roller
for a
finer texture" - wtf is a "medium texture"??

Someone on here must have used this stuff - is it any good (I'm
worried it'll
go wrong and I'll spend the next weekend trying to scrape the bloody
stuff
off again )

Cheers,

Darren

Best advice I can give you if your ceiling is uneven and manky is to paper
it and then paint it, if this is something that also fills you with dread,
then stipple it yourself, but not with artex or any of the crappy 'textured'
handyman garbage, paint the whole thing with fairly strong PVA and then mix
some very wet skimming, put it on with a brush and go over it with a
stippling brush like this:
http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/ARTSWIRLA1.jpg
but just push it upwards and pull it down again, to create soft rounded
peaks

--
Phil L
RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008

and even then it still looked like someone had painstakingly stapled dry
roasted peanuts to the ceiling


ROFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great wording. 10 / 10

In article ,
Phil L wrote:

TBH they all look absolutely ****e, the adverts are quite entertaining
though, with the hot chick just flopping it on and getting excellent results
while making it look like a piece of ****....the sad fact is this:
It's astronomically priced inthat it would be cheaper to have a plasterer
come to your house and reboard and skim the ceiling, giving you in effect, a
blank canvas to do with as you please....and BTW, you don't need to pull
anything down, you can board over the existing ceiling


I thought as much...

Yeah, could board over the lot, but that's more work than I was hoping for.
I was looking for the easy, quick, perfect fix - you've confirmed what I
thought (there isn't one )

Alternatively, maybe I just need to find a hot chick to come and do it for
me...

I've never used any of these textured finished - how easy is it to
get a reasonable finish? I'm looking for something fairly subtle - not
huge peaks

practically impossible, the best effort I ever saw was in a house in
Manchester, and even then it still looked like someone had painstakingly
stapled dry roasted peanuts to the ceiling - big ugly blobs everywhere, but
at least they were evenly spaced, almost every other attempt I have
witnessed has been a complete abortion....patches as rough as a bears arse
and other patches as flat as a witch's tit

Lol!

Best advice I can give you if your ceiling is uneven and manky is to paper
it and then paint it, if this is something that also fills you with dread,

I hate wall papering. I've not tried papering a ceiling but I guess I can
give it a go (I've spent hours scrapping bloody woodchip off of this ceiling -
I can now see why it was there!)

then stipple it yourself, but not with artex or any of the crappy 'textured'
handyman garbage, paint the whole thing with fairly strong PVA and then mix
some very wet skimming, put it on with a brush and go over it with a
stippling brush like this:
http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/ARTSWIRLA1.jpg
but just push it upwards and pull it down again, to create soft rounded
peaks

Hmmm.... might have a play on a bit of scrap board. I suspect papering is
going to be the best compromise however :-(

Cheers,

Darren

dmc wrote:
In article ,
Phil L wrote:

TBH they all look absolutely ****e, the adverts are quite entertaining
though, with the hot chick just flopping it on and getting excellent results
while making it look like a piece of ****....the sad fact is this:
It's astronomically priced inthat it would be cheaper to have a plasterer
come to your house and reboard and skim the ceiling, giving you in effect, a
blank canvas to do with as you please....and BTW, you don't need to pull
anything down, you can board over the existing ceiling


I thought as much...

Yeah, could board over the lot, but that's more work than I was hoping for.
I was looking for the easy, quick, perfect fix - you've confirmed what I
thought (there isn't one )

Alternatively, maybe I just need to find a hot chick to come and do it for
me...

I've never used any of these textured finished - how easy is it to
get a reasonable finish? I'm looking for something fairly subtle - not
huge peaks

practically impossible, the best effort I ever saw was in a house in
Manchester, and even then it still looked like someone had painstakingly
stapled dry roasted peanuts to the ceiling - big ugly blobs everywhere, but
at least they were evenly spaced, almost every other attempt I have
witnessed has been a complete abortion....patches as rough as a bears arse
and other patches as flat as a witch's tit

Lol!

Best advice I can give you if your ceiling is uneven and manky is to paper
it and then paint it, if this is something that also fills you with dread,

I hate wall papering. I've not tried papering a ceiling but I guess I can
give it a go (I've spent hours scrapping bloody woodchip off of this ceiling -
I can now see why it was there!)

then stipple it yourself, but not with artex or any of the crappy 'textured'
handyman garbage, paint the whole thing with fairly strong PVA and then mix
some very wet skimming, put it on with a brush and go over it with a
stippling brush like this:
http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/ARTSWIRLA1.jpg
but just push it upwards and pull it down again, to create soft rounded
peaks

Hmmm.... might have a play on a bit of scrap board. I suspect papering is
going to be the best compromise however :-(

Cheers,

Darren


Try using Artex or drywall filler instead of plaster. Dearer, but a LOT
easier to use. I skimmed a textured ceiling with the former, having
previously given up on normal plaster. Bloody tiring doing anything at
that angle though.

"Phil L" wrote in message
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TBH they all look absolutely ****e,

Bod, i'll agree with that, they are more than absolutely ****e, i'd rather
have a cracked scabby celing that feckin artex.

bloody bungalow im in has it everywhere, celings, walls, i'm sure if he
could have he'd have put it on the floors too, bloody bloke who lived here
before was a bodger of extinction,

our bedroom has flat walls which are nice (as the walls everywhere else are
sharp due to the artex ****e he put on, lost count how many times we've
taken the skin off our arms walking up or down the narrow stairs)

but the bedroom celing, looks like he used 20 different patterned aplicator
jobbies randomly, and then a bit in the corner looks like the celing came
down or something, so he patched it, but didnt use a patterned
roller/applicator, instead used his fingers to splodge it about and make the
dips and bumps,

i never had much of an issue with artex type stuff before, but now i hate
the stuff with a passion, i actually found myself saying out loud 'christ,
he's not going to buy that **** is he' in B&Q&Q&Q&Q the other week when i
saw someone pick up a tub of it.