Hello,

Having just fixed m dishwasher problems I am now told that the tumbler dryer
is acting up. With a full load of wet washing the motor, it seems, is
struggling to turn the drum. There is also a bit of a (motor?) burning
smell. Taking some washing out cures the problem but this is obviously just
going to get worse.

So is this the motor? Start capacitor? Belt? I'm going to open it tomorrow,
bet there is a lot of fluff in there.

Any help most appreciated.

Graham

Graham Jones wrote:
Hello,

Having just fixed m dishwasher problems I am now told that the
tumbler dryer is acting up. With a full load of wet washing the
motor, it seems, is struggling to turn the drum. There is also a bit
of a (motor?) burning smell. Taking some washing out cures the
problem but this is obviously just going to get worse.

So is this the motor? Start capacitor? Belt? I'm going to open it
tomorrow, bet there is a lot of fluff in there.

I'd look at the brushes first.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"Graham Jones" wrote in message
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Hello,

Having just fixed m dishwasher problems I am now told that the tumbler
dryer
is acting up. With a full load of wet washing the motor, it seems, is
struggling to turn the drum. There is also a bit of a (motor?) burning
smell. Taking some washing out cures the problem but this is obviously
just
going to get worse.

So is this the motor? Start capacitor? Belt? I'm going to open it
tomorrow,
bet there is a lot of fluff in there.

Any help most appreciated.

Graham


The fluff won't help, but, it could be the motor needs new carbon brushes
and a belt. If the machine is coming up for its second birthday, it's
better to change both carbons and belt at the same time. Don't fall into
the trap of "The Belt Looks Fine" because the motor with new brushes will
show you it's not.

If your machine has an induction motor, without carbon brushes, the most
likely problem is fluffy stuff. The burning smell will be dust in the motor
housing, so make sure you vacuum the motor out as well. But change the belt
on this as well. Don't fall into the same trap. You can keep the existing
one as a spare, but change the belt. Honestly. Believe me. I've been
there too many times. :-)

Have fun, and good luck with it.

Graham Jones wrote:
Hello,


snip

With a full load of wet washing the
motor, it seems, is struggling to turn the drum.

Is this the clue?

Most dryers from recollection will not take the same load that a washing
machine does. A full load from the washing machine is not being transferred
to the dryer is it?

"Clot" wrote in message
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Graham Jones wrote:
Hello,


snip

With a full load of wet washing the
motor, it seems, is struggling to turn the drum.

Is this the clue?

Most dryers from recollection will not take the same load that a washing
machine does. A full load from the washing machine is not being
transferred to the dryer is it?


Well yes it is, the drum in the dryer is larger than the drum in the washer.
Also it has been happy with a full load of wet washing for about 4 years
now.

Does this sound wrong?

Graham Jones wrote:
"Clot" wrote in message
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Graham Jones wrote:
Hello,


snip

With a full load of wet washing the
motor, it seems, is struggling to turn the drum.

Is this the clue?

Most dryers from recollection will not take the same load that a
washing machine does. A full load from the washing machine is not
being transferred to the dryer is it?


Well yes it is, the drum in the dryer is larger than the drum in the
washer. Also it has been happy with a full load of wet washing for
about 4 years now.

Does this sound wrong?

If it's been working well like that for 4 years, it would suggest it is ok.
The fact that the drum is physically larger does not mean that it is
intended to take either the same weight or more than the washer. What do the
destruction manuals advise regarding weight?

Clot wrote:
Graham Jones wrote:
"Clot" wrote in message
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Graham Jones wrote:
Hello,


snip

With a full load of wet washing the
motor, it seems, is struggling to turn the drum.
Is this the clue?

Most dryers from recollection will not take the same load that a
washing machine does. A full load from the washing machine is not
being transferred to the dryer is it?

Well yes it is, the drum in the dryer is larger than the drum in the
washer. Also it has been happy with a full load of wet washing for
about 4 years now.

Does this sound wrong?

If it's been working well like that for 4 years, it would suggest it is ok.
The fact that the drum is physically larger does not mean that it is
intended to take either the same weight or more than the washer. What do the
destruction manuals advise regarding weight?


The bit that has been getting me, and probably only because of my
interpretation, is "wet washing". Surely, by the time you put it into
the drier, it should only be damp? If it really is wet, that will be
much, much heavier than the same material when only damp.

Probably just me...

--
Rod

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onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
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Clot wrote:
Graham Jones wrote:
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Graham Jones wrote:
Hello,


snip

With a full load of wet washing the
motor, it seems, is struggling to turn the drum.

Is this the clue?

Most dryers from recollection will not take the same load that a
washing machine does. A full load from the washing machine is not
being transferred to the dryer is it?


Well yes it is, the drum in the dryer is larger than the drum in the
washer. Also it has been happy with a full load of wet washing for
about 4 years now.

Does this sound wrong?

If it's been working well like that for 4 years, it would suggest it
is ok. The fact that the drum is physically larger does not mean that
it is intended to take either the same weight or more than the
washer. What do the destruction manuals advise regarding weight?

Drier drums are larger to allow the washing to 'tumble'. Hence the name
'tumble drier' :-)


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

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Clot wrote:
Graham Jones wrote:
"Clot" wrote in message
news Graham Jones wrote:
Hello,


snip

With a full load of wet washing the
motor, it seems, is struggling to turn the drum.
Is this the clue?

Most dryers from recollection will not take the same load that a
washing machine does. A full load from the washing machine is not
being transferred to the dryer is it?

Well yes it is, the drum in the dryer is larger than the drum in the
washer. Also it has been happy with a full load of wet washing for
about 4 years now.

Does this sound wrong?

If it's been working well like that for 4 years, it would suggest it is
ok. The fact that the drum is physically larger does not mean that it is
intended to take either the same weight or more than the washer. What do
the destruction manuals advise regarding weight?
The bit that has been getting me, and probably only because of my
interpretation, is "wet washing". Surely, by the time you put it into the
drier, it should only be damp? If it really is wet, that will be much,
much heavier than the same material when only damp.

Probably just me...

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

Yeah I meant damp.

Graham Jones wrote:

"Clot" wrote in message
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Graham Jones wrote:
Hello,


snip

With a full load of wet washing the
motor, it seems, is struggling to turn the drum.

Is this the clue?

Most dryers from recollection will not take the same load that a
washing machine does. A full load from the washing machine is not
being transferred to the dryer is it?


Well yes it is, the drum in the dryer is larger than the drum in the
washer. Also it has been happy with a full load of wet washing for about
4 years now.

Does this sound wrong?

Because I wanted to know, I checked. On John Lewis site, most are at
least 6kg capacity, even the cheapest - which is the same as most
washing machines. (Mind the comnbination washer/dryers are dreadful for
tumble capacity.)

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

Rod wrote:
Graham Jones wrote:

"Clot" wrote in message
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Graham Jones wrote:
Hello,


snip

With a full load of wet washing the
motor, it seems, is struggling to turn the drum.

Is this the clue?

Most dryers from recollection will not take the same load that a
washing machine does. A full load from the washing machine is not
being transferred to the dryer is it?


Well yes it is, the drum in the dryer is larger than the drum in the
washer. Also it has been happy with a full load of wet washing for
about 4 years now.

Does this sound wrong?

Because I wanted to know, I checked. On John Lewis site, most are at
least 6kg capacity, even the cheapest - which is the same as most
washing machines. (Mind the comnbination washer/dryers are dreadful
for tumble capacity.)

Thanks for the information. I suspect that the dryers have grown in capacity
over the years. Definitely was not the case for us a few years ago....
counts, well could be decades!

We had a combined one back in the eighties which was dreadful both in the
length of time for drying and also that you had to remove some of the
contents between washing and drying. Philco Bendix IIRC.

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from Rod contains these words:


Because I wanted to know, I checked. On John Lewis site, most are at
least 6kg capacity, even the cheapest - which is the same as most
washing machines.

But surely the clothes are DRY when you put them into the washing
machine but DAMP and therefore heavier when you put them into the drier?

Appin wrote:
The message
from Rod contains these words:


Because I wanted to know, I checked. On John Lewis site, most are at
least 6kg capacity, even the cheapest - which is the same as most
washing machines.

But surely the clothes are DRY when you put them into the washing
machine but DAMP and therefore heavier when you put them into the drier?

Indeed. So the way I took the measurement was 6kg dry cotton into w/m
then simply transfer the contents to a dryer. (This seemed all the more
likely as the range of capacities in w/m and dryers is identical - 6 to
8 kg. So for a matched pair of appliances that would appear to make
sense.) All will be well. John Lewis and Bosch both just refer to a
weight in kg.

However, on the Siemens site they use the phrase "7kg wet washing
capacity" - for all but one of their tumbles. So I am now wondering...

(And we haven't even got a dryer.)

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org