Hi All,

I've had a quick google without success but does anyone know where I
can find a bathroom light switch triggered by a movement sensor?

This would need to be a direct replacement for the ceiling based
switch we have at the moment.

Current switch is very noisy so a movement based one would be perfect!

Cheers.

On Nov 19, 9:09*pm, beamer wrote:
Hi All,

I've had a quick google without success but does anyone know where I
can find a bathroom light switch triggered by a movement sensor?

This would need to be a direct replacement for the ceiling based
switch we have at the moment.

Current switch is very noisy so a movement based one would be perfect!

Cheers.

I've just seen this one that would presumably do the job.

http://www.lightingstyles.co.uk/Surf..._dectector.htm

Does anyone know of anything cheaper / better / neater?

It's to operate 3 50w spots (individual 12v transformers).

Cheers.

beamer wrote:
On Nov 19, 9:09 pm, beamer wrote:
Hi All,

I've had a quick google without success but does anyone know where I
can find a bathroom light switch triggered by a movement sensor?

This would need to be a direct replacement for the ceiling based
switch we have at the moment.

Current switch is very noisy so a movement based one would be
perfect!

Cheers.

I've just seen this one that would presumably do the job.

http://www.lightingstyles.co.uk/Surf..._dectector.htm

Does anyone know of anything cheaper / better / neater?

It's to operate 3 50w spots (individual 12v transformers).

Cheers.

I thought of doing this in my bathroom, but decided against it in the end as
the light will always turn on, even if you are just popping into the
bathroom to get something, then stay on for it's set time before turning
off.
Also, if you were laying in the bath, relaxing, (Or even having a long poo
:-) ) the lights would probably go off at some point, unless you set the on
time for quite a long tome, which will cause more of a problem with the
first point I made!

I haven't actually tried one yet, but these are the problems I can envisage
with a PIR type arrangement!

The "normal" pull switches are quite loud, especially when mounted on a
hollow ceiling, however, these are much much quieter, and dim the lights if
you pull and hold....

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TLPCD51.html

Toby...

Toby wrote:

Also, if you were laying in the bath, relaxing, (Or even having a long
poo :-) ) the lights would probably go off at some point,

Yep, had this problem at school. We had a refurbishment, and although we
ended up with proper walls and doors between bog cubicles (to stop the
practice of throwing water and wet bogroll into occupied traps :-) ) we
also got newfangled movement sensors which were only in the main room
(and there were no windows). If having a long "think" one would suddenly
be plunged into pitch darkness, and have to open the door and wave a leg
about to turn the lights back on!

Pete

"beamer" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I've had a quick google without success but does anyone know where I
can find a bathroom light switch triggered by a movement sensor?

This would need to be a direct replacement for the ceiling based
switch we have at the moment.

Current switch is very noisy so a movement based one would be perfect!

Cheers.


Would a standard plate switch outside the bathroom not be better? A
standard switch is not loud, and is a hell of a lot cheaper than any sensor
system.

On 19 Nov, 22:20, "BigWallop" wrote:
"beamer" wrote in message

...

Hi All,

I've had a quick google without success but does anyone know where I
can find a bathroom light switch triggered by a movement sensor?

This would need to be a direct replacement for the ceiling based
switch we have at the moment.

Current switch is very noisy so a movement based one would be perfect!

Cheers.

Would a standard plate switch outside the bathroom not be better? *A
standard switch is not loud, and is a hell of a lot cheaper than any sensor
system.

I've been through all these configurations and considerations.
Originally had a pull switch in the bathroom which got in the way of
the door and the airing cupboard, so removed it and put a narrow
switch (architrave switch ?) outside. This is much neater, I did buy
in a cheap PIR (off Ebay) as the bathroom light tends to get left on
but have not fitted it for the very reasons given by an earlier poster
- light comes on when not needed and goes out when bathing, etc.

Rob

beamer wrote:

On Nov 19, 9:09�pm, beamer wrote:
Hi All,

I've had a quick google without success but does anyone know where I
can find a bathroom light switch triggered by a movement sensor?

This would need to be a direct replacement for the ceiling based
switch we have at the moment.

Current switch is very noisy so a movement based one would be perfect!

Cheers.

I've just seen this one that would presumably do the job.

http://www.lightingstyles.co.uk/Surf..._dectector.htm

Does anyone know of anything cheaper / better / neater?

It's to operate 3 50w spots (individual 12v transformers).

Cheers.

I have two Danler flush to ceiling PIRs bought from QVS. They work
great although I'm sure others do too.

On Nov 19, 9:37*pm, beamer wrote:
On Nov 19, 9:09*pm, beamer wrote:

Hi All,

I've had a quick google without success but does anyone know where I
can find a bathroom light switch triggered by a movement sensor?

This would need to be a direct replacement for the ceiling based
switch we have at the moment.

Current switch is very noisy so a movement based one would be perfect!

Cheers.

I've just seen this one that would presumably do the job.

http://www.lightingstyles.co.uk/Surf...upancy_dectect...


it is permitted to mount one of these in a bathroom? It has Standards
BS EN 60730-2-7.

Robert

"beamer" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I've had a quick google without success but does anyone know where I
can find a bathroom light switch triggered by a movement sensor?

I've had the idea to install a second less bright light, for going to the
toilet
at night without blinding oneself with a bright light.
I've been looking for standalone LED ones like those that you put in
cupboards,
but they aren't quite bright enough. It can't be that difficult to have a
LED lights running off
batteries with either passive IR or movement detector, which switches on for
5-10mins
Not that I've seen such a device, but they can't be that difficult to make
cheaply in bulk.

On Nov 21, 2:09*pm, "whisky-dave" wrote:
"beamer" wrote in message

...

Hi All,

I've had a quick google without success but does anyone know where I
can find a bathroom light switch triggered by a movement sensor?

I've had the idea to install a second less bright light, for going to the
toilet
at night without blinding oneself with a bright light.
I've been looking for standalone LED ones like those that you put in
cupboards,
but they aren't quite bright enough. *It can't be that difficult to have a
LED lights running oHi ff
batteries with either passive IR or movement detector, which switches on for
5-10mins
Not that I've seen such a device, but they can't be that difficult to make
cheaply in bulk.


Hi All,

Thanks for the comments and suggestions. I'm ashamed to say I've
ignored everything and have bought an IP44 rated motion sensor jobby.
The deciding factor was that my wife thought that even if it doesn't
work it would be a laugh!

It's a 360 degree rated jobby. The bathroom is very small so hopefully
it will work ok.

I'll fit it this weekend (hopefully) and if anyone is interested, I'll
post the results!

The reason for not fitting a new switch outside is that both rooms
have been plastered and decorated recently. I've got no wish to start
chasing walls out and wiring etc.

Our bathroom is downstairs, immediately below where our 8 wk old son
is sleeping hence the need for a quieter solution. Exposed floorboards
may look nice but they aren't very good for soundproofing.

I posted a question about a humidistat controlled extractor fan some
time ago. The feedback was that they are a bit rubbish but I've had
excellent results. The fan comes on when needed. i.e. not in the
middle of the night.

Cheers.

On Nov 21, 5:31*pm, Huge wrote:
On 2008-11-21, whisky-dave wrote:







"beamer" wrote in message
....
Hi All,

I've had a quick google without success but does anyone know where I
can find a bathroom light switch triggered by a movement sensor?

I've had the idea to install a second less bright light, for going to the
toilet
at night without blinding oneself with a bright light.
I've been looking for standalone LED ones like those that you put in
cupboards,
but they aren't quite bright enough. *It can't be that difficult to have a
LED lights running off
batteries with either passive IR or movement detector, which switches on for
5-10mins
Not that I've seen such a device, but they can't be that difficult to make
cheaply in bulk.

I have an Osram Lunetta nightlight in our en-suite, plugged into a decidely
non-Part-P compliant 3 pin socket installed high up on the wall. Occasionally I
mull over how it could be made compliant (possible thoughts include gluing it
into the socket or installing the guts of it inside a back box with a
transparent blanking plate on the front.) Needless to say, ICBA to solve what I
regard as a non-problem, and I shall merely substitute a blanking plate when we
move out.

--
* *"I have never been able to conceive ow any rational being could propose
happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others." - Thomas Jefferson
* * * * * * * *[email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org dot uk]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Balls. Nothing ever goes smoothly.

Current switch only has three wires available. One earth and I assume
two lives (one supply and one load).

New motion jobby obviously needs the neutral to run the PIR.

It's not possible to cut into the ceiling as it's only recently been
replaced.

Back to the drawing board!!

"beamer" wrote in message
...
On Nov 21, 5:31 pm, Huge wrote:
On 2008-11-21, whisky-dave wrote:







"beamer" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I've had a quick google without success but does anyone know where I
can find a bathroom light switch triggered by a movement sensor?

I've had the idea to install a second less bright light, for going to
the
toilet
at night without blinding oneself with a bright light.
I've been looking for standalone LED ones like those that you put in
cupboards,
but they aren't quite bright enough. It can't be that difficult to have
a
LED lights running off
batteries with either passive IR or movement detector, which switches on
for
5-10mins
Not that I've seen such a device, but they can't be that difficult to
make
cheaply in bulk.

I have an Osram Lunetta nightlight in our en-suite, plugged into a
decidely
non-Part-P compliant 3 pin socket installed high up on the wall.
Occasionally I
mull over how it could be made compliant (possible thoughts include gluing
it
into the socket or installing the guts of it inside a back box with a
transparent blanking plate on the front.) Needless to say, ICBA to solve
what I
regard as a non-problem, and I shall merely substitute a blanking plate
when we
move out.

--
"I have never been able to conceive ow any rational being could propose
happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others." - Thomas
Jefferson
[email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org dot uk]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Balls. Nothing ever goes smoothly.

Current switch only has three wires available. One earth and I assume
two lives (one supply and one load).

New motion jobby obviously needs the neutral to run the PIR.

It's not possible to cut into the ceiling as it's only recently been
replaced.

Back to the drawing board!!



The ceiling rose must have neutral available or the lught won't work, so why
not take a cable from the ceiling rose to the PIR?

BigWallop wrote:
"beamer" wrote in message
...
On Nov 21, 5:31 pm, Huge wrote:
On 2008-11-21, whisky-dave wrote:







"beamer" wrote in message
...
Hi All,
I've had a quick google without success but does anyone know where I
can find a bathroom light switch triggered by a movement sensor?
I've had the idea to install a second less bright light, for going to
the
toilet
at night without blinding oneself with a bright light.
I've been looking for standalone LED ones like those that you put in
cupboards,
but they aren't quite bright enough. It can't be that difficult to have
a
LED lights running off
batteries with either passive IR or movement detector, which switches on
for
5-10mins
Not that I've seen such a device, but they can't be that difficult to
make
cheaply in bulk.
I have an Osram Lunetta nightlight in our en-suite, plugged into a
decidely
non-Part-P compliant 3 pin socket installed high up on the wall.
Occasionally I
mull over how it could be made compliant (possible thoughts include gluing
it
into the socket or installing the guts of it inside a back box with a
transparent blanking plate on the front.) Needless to say, ICBA to solve
what I
regard as a non-problem, and I shall merely substitute a blanking plate
when we
move out.

--
"I have never been able to conceive ow any rational being could propose
happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others." - Thomas
Jefferson
[email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org dot uk]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Balls. Nothing ever goes smoothly.

Current switch only has three wires available. One earth and I assume
two lives (one supply and one load).

New motion jobby obviously needs the neutral to run the PIR.

It's not possible to cut into the ceiling as it's only recently been
replaced.

Back to the drawing board!!



The ceiling rose must have neutral available or the lught won't work, so why
not take a cable from the ceiling rose to the PIR?



it might even be possible to pull through a 3 core with the 2 core from
the rose to the switch

--
Kevin R
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