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The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development
stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Is there a definition for the required degree of obscurity? Also, which way is it supposed to work? Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? Brian |
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"Brian Drury" wrote in message ... The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Is there a definition for the required degree of obscurity? Also, which way is it supposed to work? Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? Brian The glass only has be obscured if it faces adjacent neighbouring dwellings at a certain distance. It's to stop you both perving at each other. It was argued that blinds or curtains would also obscure the window from peeping in, but the argument was lost when the lawyers asked " And what about you looking out through the curtains". :-) |
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Brian Drury wrote:
The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? More than likely specified so you can't peer out, rather than worrying about others peering at you! Doesn't "one way" glass only work when the side to be observed is bright and the side you are observing from is dark? |
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Andy Burns wrote:
Brian Drury wrote: The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? More than likely specified so you can't peer out, rather than worrying about others peering at you! Just put a CCTV outside instead. Everyone else does. ;-) Doesn't "one way" glass only work when the side to be observed is bright and the side you are observing from is dark? yes. |
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"Brian Drury" wrote in message ... The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Is there a definition for the required degree of obscurity? Also, which way is it supposed to work? Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? Brian I'm missing some thing here. What's so special about a window in a loft conversion compared with a window elsewhere in the house wrt Peeping Tomery. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:41:14 GMT, "BigWallop"
wrote: "Brian Drury" wrote in message .. . The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Is there a definition for the required degree of obscurity? Also, which way is it supposed to work? Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? Brian The glass only has be obscured if it faces adjacent neighbouring dwellings at a certain distance. It's to stop you both perving at each other. It was argued that blinds or curtains would also obscure the window from peeping in, but the argument was lost when the lawyers asked " And what about you looking out through the curtains". :-) Do you happen to know where the distance is defined? Locally, when planning is involved, the distance where obscured glass is stipulated can be over one hundred feet. In this instance planning will not be involved therefore I simply have to identify and meet the statutory requirement. But where is it defined? |
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"Brian Drury" wrote in message ... On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:41:14 GMT, "BigWallop" wrote: "Brian Drury" wrote in message .. . The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Is there a definition for the required degree of obscurity? Also, which way is it supposed to work? Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? Brian The glass only has be obscured if it faces adjacent neighbouring dwellings at a certain distance. It's to stop you both perving at each other. It was argued that blinds or curtains would also obscure the window from peeping in, but the argument was lost when the lawyers asked " And what about you looking out through the curtains". :-) Do you happen to know where the distance is defined? Locally, when planning is involved, the distance where obscured glass is stipulated can be over one hundred feet. In this instance planning will not be involved therefore I simply have to identify and meet the statutory requirement. But where is it defined? It would be better going to your local authority web site and have a look at their planning formats. I thought there was a standard somewhere, something like 72 feet (22 metres), but I think different regions have their own principal of calculation. I also recall somewhere has it at the same distance for the eyesight test for a driving license at 65 feet (20 metres), but that has probably changed as well now. You can buy a frosted film to cover the glass, which creates the desired effect. I suppose it could be removed after consent has been granted on the refurb'. |
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"Graham." wrote in message ... "Brian Drury" wrote in message ... The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Is there a definition for the required degree of obscurity? Also, which way is it supposed to work? Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? Brian I'm missing some thing here. What's so special about a window in a loft conversion compared with a window elsewhere in the house wrt Peeping Tomery. Graham. It is in regard to preventing peeping tomery. Adjacent properties have the right to privacy, and to stop near by buildings from being able to look into your property, the planning consent needs to know that you are not a pervert, or for you to have any glass obscured to stop even accidental perving. It also helps prevent others from perving into your rooms when you're in a state of romantic embarrassment. :-) |
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"BigWallop" wrote in message om... "Graham." wrote in message ... "Brian Drury" wrote in message ... The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Is there a definition for the required degree of obscurity? Also, which way is it supposed to work? Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? Brian I'm missing some thing here. What's so special about a window in a loft conversion compared with a window elsewhere in the house wrt Peeping Tomery. Graham. It is in regard to preventing peeping tomery. Adjacent properties have the right to privacy, and to stop near by buildings from being able to look into your property, the planning consent needs to know that you are not a pervert, or for you to have any glass obscured to stop even accidental perving. It also helps prevent others from perving into your rooms when you're in a state of romantic embarrassment. :-) I'd gathered that much, please re-read my question. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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"Graham." wrote in message ... "BigWallop" wrote in message om... "Graham." wrote in message ... "Brian Drury" wrote in message ... The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Is there a definition for the required degree of obscurity? Also, which way is it supposed to work? Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? Brian I'm missing some thing here. What's so special about a window in a loft conversion compared with a window elsewhere in the house wrt Peeping Tomery. Graham. It is in regard to preventing peeping tomery. Adjacent properties have the right to privacy, and to stop near by buildings from being able to look into your property, the planning consent needs to know that you are not a pervert, or for you to have any glass obscured to stop even accidental perving. It also helps prevent others from perving into your rooms when you're in a state of romantic embarrassment. :-) I'd gathered that much, please re-read my question. Graham. Oh right. It's a gable end window. Gables are more often built adjacent to each other. Dormer windows don't fall under this situation. |
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On 16 Nov, 21:17, "Graham." wrote:
"Brian Drury" wrote in message ... The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. I'm missing some thing here. What's so special about a window in a loft conversion compared with a window elsewhere in the house wrt Peeping Tomery. Nothing, but they would impose the same restriction if a planning application was made for any other development, so it isn't being treated any differently, this way it just comes along with the deemed consent. |
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On Nov 17, 12:48*am, "BigWallop"
wrote: "Graham." wrote in message ... "BigWallop" wrote in message . com... "Graham." wrote in message ... "Brian Drury" wrote in message . .. The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Is there a definition for the required degree of obscurity? Also, which way is it supposed to work? Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? Brian I'm missing some thing here. What's so special about a window in a loft conversion compared with a window elsewhere in the house wrt Peeping Tomery. Graham. It is in regard to preventing peeping tomery. *Adjacent properties have the right to privacy, and to stop near by buildings from being able to look into your property, the planning consent needs to know that you are not a pervert, or for you to have any glass obscured to stop even accidental perving. *It also helps prevent others from perving into your rooms when you're in a state of romantic embarrassment. *:-) I'd gathered that much, please re-read my question. Graham. Oh right. *It's a gable end window. Where do you get that from? |
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"Man at B&Q" wrote in message ... On Nov 17, 12:48 am, "BigWallop" wrote: "Graham." wrote in message ... "BigWallop" wrote in message . com... "Graham." wrote in message ... "Brian Drury" wrote in message . .. The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Is there a definition for the required degree of obscurity? Also, which way is it supposed to work? Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? Brian I'm missing some thing here. What's so special about a window in a loft conversion compared with a window elsewhere in the house wrt Peeping Tomery. Graham. It is in regard to preventing peeping tomery. Adjacent properties have the right to privacy, and to stop near by buildings from being able to look into your property, the planning consent needs to know that you are not a pervert, or for you to have any glass obscured to stop even accidental perving. It also helps prevent others from perving into your rooms when you're in a state of romantic embarrassment. :-) I'd gathered that much, please re-read my question. Graham. Oh right. It's a gable end window. Where do you get that from? I hope he's talking about a gable end window. Surely he can't think that all loft windows have to be frosted or turned to angle to prevent overlooking? Maybe he is talking all the loft windows. :-) That's what we get for assuming. LOL |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:01:51 GMT, "BigWallop"
wrote: "Man at B&Q" wrote in message ... On Nov 17, 12:48 am, "BigWallop" wrote: "Graham." wrote in message ... "BigWallop" wrote in message . com... "Graham." wrote in message ... "Brian Drury" wrote in message . .. The recent relaxation of loft conversion permitted development stipulates the requirement for side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed. Is there a definition for the required degree of obscurity? Also, which way is it supposed to work? Can I fit one-way glass so that nobody can see in? Brian I'm missing some thing here. What's so special about a window in a loft conversion compared with a window elsewhere in the house wrt Peeping Tomery. Graham. It is in regard to preventing peeping tomery. Adjacent properties have the right to privacy, and to stop near by buildings from being able to look into your property, the planning consent needs to know that you are not a pervert, or for you to have any glass obscured to stop even accidental perving. It also helps prevent others from perving into your rooms when you're in a state of romantic embarrassment. :-) I'd gathered that much, please re-read my question. Graham. Oh right. It's a gable end window. Where do you get that from? I hope he's talking about a gable end window. Surely he can't think that all loft windows have to be frosted or turned to angle to prevent overlooking? Maybe he is talking all the loft windows. :-) That's what we get for assuming. LOL He was talking about the new reg's that can be seen he http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...315235153.html Bullet point 7 is the one: "Side-facing windows to be obscure-glazed; any opening to be 1.7m above the floor." My plan is to gable end the existing hip at the back of the building and add a dorma to the side. The side view would be facing south towards the sea about 1 mile away. Being on a hill the view will be great but difficult to appreciate through frosted glass. Hence my interest in the required degree of opacity. Brian |
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