Just been watching one of those cops with cameras TV shows. Cops raided a
suspected drugs den in a flat in Plymouth, broke the door down with the big
red key.

The search obviously took some time & one of the brief film shots seemed to
show a locksmith removing the old eurolock.

It was a very brief clip, but he seemed to have removed the door handle &
faceplate leaving about an inch of the eurolock exposed.

He adjusted a large adjustable spanner to fit the eurolock body & applied a
few sharp horizontal jerks - and the lock seemed to break in half.

I would have thought a eurolock would have been stronger than that - does
this really work?



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
om...
Just been watching one of those cops with cameras TV shows. Cops raided a
suspected drugs den in a flat in Plymouth, broke the door down with the
big red key.

The search obviously took some time & one of the brief film shots seemed
to show a locksmith removing the old eurolock.

It was a very brief clip, but he seemed to have removed the door handle &
faceplate leaving about an inch of the eurolock exposed.

He adjusted a large adjustable spanner to fit the eurolock body & applied
a few sharp horizontal jerks - and the lock seemed to break in half.

I would have thought a eurolock would have been stronger than that - does
this really work?

Yes.
Which is why your euro lock barrel doesn't protrude and you don't just screw
a handle to the outside.
I hope you haven't been fitting euro locks if you didn't know.

dennis@home wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
message om...
Just been watching one of those cops with cameras TV shows. Cops
raided a suspected drugs den in a flat in Plymouth, broke the door
down with the big red key.

The search obviously took some time & one of the brief film shots
seemed to show a locksmith removing the old eurolock.

It was a very brief clip, but he seemed to have removed the door
handle & faceplate leaving about an inch of the eurolock exposed.

He adjusted a large adjustable spanner to fit the eurolock body &
applied a few sharp horizontal jerks - and the lock seemed to break
in half. I would have thought a eurolock would have been stronger than
that -
does this really work?

Yes.
Which is why your euro lock barrel doesn't protrude and you don't
just screw a handle to the outside.
I hope you haven't been fitting euro locks if you didn't know.

Never fitted one, don't know anything about them. The handle & cover plate
were missing from the outside of the door. Presumably they were removed
from inside then?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Oct 22, 12:03*am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
dennis@home wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
media.com...

Just been watching one of those cops with cameras TV shows. *Cops
raided a suspected drugs den in a flat in Plymouth, broke the door
down with the big red key.

The search obviously took some time & one of the brief film shots
seemed to show a locksmith removing the old eurolock.

It was a very brief clip, but he seemed to have removed the door
handle & faceplate leaving about an inch of the eurolock exposed.

He adjusted a large adjustable spanner to fit the eurolock body &
applied a few sharp horizontal jerks - and the lock seemed to break
in half. I would have thought a eurolock would have been stronger than
that -
does this really work?

Yes.
Which is why your euro lock barrel doesn't protrude and you don't
just screw a handle to the outside.
I hope you haven't been fitting euro locks if you didn't know.

Never fitted one, don't know anything about them. *The handle & cover plate
were missing from the outside of the door. *Presumably they were removed
from inside then?

The exterior plate needs to be attached from the inside, as without it
the eurolock is quite vulnerable.


NT

In article ,
writes:
On Oct 22, 12:03*am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
dennis@home wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
media.com...
Just been watching one of those cops with cameras TV shows. *Cops
raided a suspected drugs den in a flat in Plymouth, broke the door
down with the big red key.

The search obviously took some time & one of the brief film shots
seemed to show a locksmith removing the old eurolock.

It was a very brief clip, but he seemed to have removed the door
handle & faceplate leaving about an inch of the eurolock exposed.

He adjusted a large adjustable spanner to fit the eurolock body &
applied a few sharp horizontal jerks - and the lock seemed to break
in half. I would have thought a eurolock would have been stronger than
that -
does this really work?

Yes.
Which is why your euro lock barrel doesn't protrude and you don't
just screw a handle to the outside.
I hope you haven't been fitting euro locks if you didn't know.

Never fitted one, don't know anything about them. *The handle & cover plate
were missing from the outside of the door. *Presumably they were removed
from inside then?
The exterior plate needs to be attached from the inside, as without it
the eurolock is quite vulnerable.

There are versions of the cylinder with a special weak point which
is designed to snap in this case, leaving the lock still secured.
To break one out, you have to snap it from the inside (supposing it
was fitted the right way around in the door).

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article
,
writes:
On Oct 22, 12:03 am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
dennis@home wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in
media.com...
Just been watching one of those cops with cameras TV shows. Cops
raided a suspected drugs den in a flat in Plymouth, broke the door
down with the big red key.

The search obviously took some time & one of the brief film shots
seemed to show a locksmith removing the old eurolock.

It was a very brief clip, but he seemed to have removed the door
handle & faceplate leaving about an inch of the eurolock exposed.

He adjusted a large adjustable spanner to fit the eurolock body &
applied a few sharp horizontal jerks - and the lock seemed to
break in half. I would have thought a eurolock would have been
stronger than that -
does this really work?

Yes.
Which is why your euro lock barrel doesn't protrude and you don't
just screw a handle to the outside.
I hope you haven't been fitting euro locks if you didn't know.

Never fitted one, don't know anything about them. The handle &
cover plate were missing from the outside of the door. Presumably
they were removed from inside then?
The exterior plate needs to be attached from the inside, as without
it the eurolock is quite vulnerable.

There are versions of the cylinder with a special weak point which
is designed to snap in this case, leaving the lock still secured.
To break one out, you have to snap it from the inside (supposing it
was fitted the right way around in the door).

I wondered why he was snapping it. If the door was open the screw holding
the barrel could have been removed - but I think you need the key still to
remove the lock?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
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I wondered why he was snapping it. If the door was open the screw holding
the barrel could have been removed - but I think you need the key still to
remove the lock?

The key or a big spanner as you have seen.

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
om...
Just been watching one of those cops with cameras TV shows. Cops raided a
suspected drugs den in a flat in Plymouth, broke the door down with the
big red key.

The search obviously took some time & one of the brief film shots seemed
to show a locksmith removing the old eurolock.

It was a very brief clip, but he seemed to have removed the door handle &
faceplate leaving about an inch of the eurolock exposed.

He adjusted a large adjustable spanner to fit the eurolock body & applied
a few sharp horizontal jerks - and the lock seemed to break in half.

I would have thought a eurolock would have been stronger than that - does
this really work?



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk




We were burgled last year. They came in through the rear french doors by
snapping the eurolocks. Takes seconds to get in. Since then, I have fitted
some snap safe locks which are designed to snap before the actual lock.
Also fitted some sash jammers to the inside of the doors.

On 22 Oct, 09:26, "Slider" wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in media.com...





Just been watching one of those cops with cameras TV shows. *Cops raided a
suspected drugs den in a flat in Plymouth, broke the door down with the
big red key.

The search obviously took some time & one of the brief film shots seemed
to show a locksmith removing the old eurolock.

It was a very brief clip, but he seemed to have removed the door handle &
faceplate leaving about an inch of the eurolock exposed.

He adjusted a large adjustable spanner to fit the eurolock body & applied
a few sharp horizontal jerks - and the lock seemed to break in half.

I would have thought a eurolock would have been stronger than that - does
this really work?

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

We were burgled last year. *They came in through the rear french doors by
snapping the eurolocks. *Takes seconds to get in. *Since then, I have fitted
some snap safe locks which are designed to snap before the actual lock.
Also fitted some sash jammers to the inside of the doors.- Hide quoted text -

Don't forget the art of "bump keying"

Evva 3KS locks are supposed to protect against bump keying and "torque
attack". I did quite a bit of research on the inherantly dodgy euro
locks and I ended up fitting these in our french door and also my
folks bungalow front door last year. I wouldn't fit any other type of
euro lock now. Very nicely engineered locks and well worth the money.

http://www.saundersonsecurity.co.uk/...Cylinders.html

Have a search on you tube for bump keying and you will be unpleasantly
suprised if you don't know what it is.

Jon

On 22 Oct, 10:48, Jon wrote:
On 22 Oct, 09:26, "Slider" wrote:





"The Medway Handyman" wrote in media.com...

Just been watching one of those cops with cameras TV shows. *Cops raided a
suspected drugs den in a flat in Plymouth, broke the door down with the
big red key.

The search obviously took some time & one of the brief film shots seemed
to show a locksmith removing the old eurolock.

It was a very brief clip, but he seemed to have removed the door handle &
faceplate leaving about an inch of the eurolock exposed.

He adjusted a large adjustable spanner to fit the eurolock body & applied
a few sharp horizontal jerks - and the lock seemed to break in half.

I would have thought a eurolock would have been stronger than that - does
this really work?

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

We were burgled last year. *They came in through the rear french doors by
snapping the eurolocks. *Takes seconds to get in. *Since then, I have fitted
some snap safe locks which are designed to snap before the actual lock.
Also fitted some sash jammers to the inside of the doors.- Hide quoted text -

Don't forget the art of "bump keying"

Evva 3KS locks are supposed to protect against bump keying and "torque
attack". I did quite a bit of research on the inherantly dodgy euro
locks and I ended up fitting these in our french door and also my
folks bungalow front door last year. I wouldn't fit any other type of
euro lock now. Very nicely engineered locks and well worth the money.

http://www.saundersonsecurity.co.uk/...Euro_Cylinders....

Have a search on you tube for bump keying and you will be unpleasantly
suprised if you don't know what it is.

Jon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

** I'm in no way affiliated with Evva or Saunderson security!!! I just
like the locks

In article , Andrew Gabriel
writes

There are versions of the cylinder with a special weak point which
is designed to snap in this case, leaving the lock still secured.
To break one out, you have to snap it from the inside (supposing it
was fitted the right way around in the door).

In the case of the squire one they boast that the part retained in the
door is secure because it has a whole 2 pins left after breaking off
which doesn't inspire me with confidence. Better IMO to resist the
break-off by protecting the cylinder with a security escutcheon having
bolt-trough fixings.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

"fred" wrote in message ...
In article , Andrew Gabriel
writes

There are versions of the cylinder with a special weak point which
is designed to snap in this case, leaving the lock still secured.
To break one out, you have to snap it from the inside (supposing it
was fitted the right way around in the door).

In the case of the squire one they boast that the part retained in the
door is secure because it has a whole 2 pins left after breaking off which
doesn't inspire me with confidence. Better IMO to resist the break-off by
protecting the cylinder with a security escutcheon having bolt-trough
fixings.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

When I was researching which locks to get, I was advised by a locksmith not
to get Squire, but go for the Mul-T-lock ones.

In article , Slider writes

"fred" wrote in message ...
In article , Andrew Gabriel
writes

There are versions of the cylinder with a special weak point which
is designed to snap in this case, leaving the lock still secured.
To break one out, you have to snap it from the inside (supposing it
was fitted the right way around in the door).

In the case of the squire one they boast that the part retained in the
door is secure because it has a whole 2 pins left after breaking off which
doesn't inspire me with confidence. Better IMO to resist the break-off by
protecting the cylinder with a security escutcheon having bolt-trough
fixings.

When I was researching which locks to get, I was advised by a locksmith not
to get Squire, but go for the Mul-T-lock ones.

Was that the Break Secure one or just in general? The Break Secure is 7
pins so I suppose that should mean more pins in the stub, perhaps 3?

I'm not a big fan of Mul-T-lock cylinders as I think the keyway is far
too large to be uber secure but if it's for UPVC doors where it's
difficult to protect the cylinder then I think it may be the best of a
bad lot.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

"fred" wrote in message ...
In article , Slider writes

"fred" wrote in message ...
In article , Andrew Gabriel
writes

There are versions of the cylinder with a special weak point which
is designed to snap in this case, leaving the lock still secured.
To break one out, you have to snap it from the inside (supposing it
was fitted the right way around in the door).

In the case of the squire one they boast that the part retained in the
door is secure because it has a whole 2 pins left after breaking off
which
doesn't inspire me with confidence. Better IMO to resist the break-off
by
protecting the cylinder with a security escutcheon having bolt-trough
fixings.

When I was researching which locks to get, I was advised by a locksmith
not
to get Squire, but go for the Mul-T-lock ones.

Was that the Break Secure one or just in general? The Break Secure is 7
pins so I suppose that should mean more pins in the stub, perhaps 3?

I'm not a big fan of Mul-T-lock cylinders as I think the keyway is far too
large to be uber secure but if it's for UPVC doors where it's difficult to
protect the cylinder then I think it may be the best of a bad lot.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

Break secure type.

On Oct 22, 11:03*am, Jon wrote:
Don't forget the art of "bump keying"

Evva 3KS locks are supposed to protect against bump keying and "torque
attack". I did quite a bit of research on the inherantly dodgy euro
locks and I ended up fitting these in our french door and also my

I've got the EVVA DPS(double profile security?) eurolocks on my house.
They protect against bumping because they have an additional set of
side tumblers which have to be aligned in addition to the main
tumblers. The key profile is also patented so it stops unauthorised
copies being cut.

The locksmith told me that any euro lock can be defeated by drilling
out the keyway. However, the good quality locks have tumblers which
will shatter a drill bit when drilled, but any locksmith would still
be able to pick them without destroying the lock or door. His words....

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Just been watching one of those cops with cameras TV shows. Cops
raided a suspected drugs den in a flat in Plymouth, broke the door
down with the big red key.

The search obviously took some time & one of the brief film shots
seemed to show a locksmith removing the old eurolock.

It was a very brief clip, but he seemed to have removed the door
handle & faceplate leaving about an inch of the eurolock exposed.

He adjusted a large adjustable spanner to fit the eurolock body &
applied a few sharp horizontal jerks - and the lock seemed to break
in half.

Just watched a repeat of the show. The handle & faceplate were present, the
eurolock protruded by a small amount & was easily snapped off.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk