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The wind in my cellar!
Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out.
When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. The front of the cellar: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llarStairs.jpg The rear of the cellar: (anyone guess what the strange window-like feature is?) http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...cellarRear.jpg The noisy windy crack in the floor: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...floorFault.jpg The geological fault seen on the walls: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r.../leftFault.jpg http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...Rightfault.jpg T |
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wrote in message ... Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. That's wonderful! If you've dug all that out well done - it must have been a lot of effort. I wish it were mine. Are the walls brick? The 'window' could be just that - at one time it might have been above ground level and let in light through the slit - if that's what it is. That vaulted roof suggests not a modern building. I'm fascinated! Mary |
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wrote in message strange noises come through the crack from time to time. That's wonderful! Yup. thats what wind is. Strange noises coming through the crack ;-) Not sure I'd call it 'wonderful ' tho... |
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wrote in message ... Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. The front of the cellar: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llarStairs.jpg The rear of the cellar: (anyone guess what the strange window-like feature is?) What a wonderfull discovery, I wonder if the the slit was above the ground at one time, and could be used to fire arrows through, protecting your property? Des |
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On 9 Oct, 11:55, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
wrote in message ... Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. That's wonderful! If you've dug all that out well done - it must have been a lot of effort. I wish it were mine. Are the walls brick? The 'window' could be just that - at one time it might have been above ground level and let in light through the slit - if that's what it is. That vaulted roof suggests not a modern building. I'm fascinated! Mary The cellar was surprisingly empty of rubble. I think I caused as much to fall in by breaking into it as was there in the first place. I filled a skip by carrying those flexible plastic buckets and up the stairs. The cellar dates from the 1600s as far as I know. The lower part is simply cut from the bedrock (the local ironstone), and the rest of the walls and the ceiling are made from cut ironstone and mud. There is not a drop of lime in its construction! I suppose it is entirely possible that the window did look above ground at one time. That would mean the worker's cottages next door were a later addition. My neighbour, who is a geologist, says he has never come across a fault with a wind blowing through it before! T |
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wrote in message ... Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. The noisy windy crack in the floor: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...floorFault.jpg Keep digging there's another room (or Well) down there!! Des |
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On 9 Oct, 12:14, "Dieseldes" wrote:
wrote in message ... Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. The front of the cellar: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarSta... The rear of the cellar: (anyone guess what the strange window-like feature is?) What a wonderfull discovery, I wonder if the the slit was above the ground at one time, and could be used to fire arrows through, protecting your property? Des It's not actually a slit, it's an iron bar in front of some stones, which look like they were put there from the other side. I'm starting to form the opinion that the window may well have been above ground at some point, and been used to chuck stuff in. T |
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"Dieseldes" wrote in message ... What a wonderfull discovery, I wonder if the the slit was above the ground at one time, and could be used to fire arrows through, protecting your property? Des Arrows aren't fired :-) Mary |
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"Dieseldes" wrote in message ... What a wonderfull discovery, I wonder if the the slit was above the ground at one time, and could be used to fire arrows through, protecting your property? Des Arrows aren't fired :-) Mary fire arrows are. Nah nah-nee-nah ;-) |
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"Dieseldes" wrote in message ... What a wonderfull discovery, I wonder if the the slit was above the ground at one time, and could be used to fire arrows through, protecting your property? Des Arrows aren't fired :-) Mary Unless it is a Singijeon! :-) :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singijeon -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like: The rear of the cellar: (anyone guess what the strange window-like feature is?) http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...cellarRear.jpg Coal chute, wine barrels, small boys, anything of that order. -- Dave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a "It's a moron working with power tools. How much more suspenseful can you get?" - House |
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On 9 Oct, 12:33, Roger wrote:
The message from contains these words: The rear of the cellar: (anyone guess what the strange window-like feature is?) Could be a coal shute. -- Roger Chapman I'm pretty sure that the window/chute would be for something other than coal, as the cellar predates the availability of coal in these parts. Also, the opening definitely isn't upwards. The window is about 33" deep and has a large cut stone above it acting as a lintel, which supports the wall between me and my neighbours (which is of a similar thickness). It only makes sense if the window/chute was above ground at some time, or my neighbour has a cellar too. T |
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Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. The front of the cellar: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llarStairs.jpg The rear of the cellar: (anyone guess what the strange window-like feature is?) http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...cellarRear.jpg The noisy windy crack in the floor: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...floorFault.jpg The geological fault seen on the walls: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r.../leftFault.jpg http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...Rightfault.jpg T Where abouts in the country are you? That looks amazingly similar to the cellar in my in-laws house in the Midlands. That part of their house is c17 or c18 depending on which experts you talk to and which bits they are looking at. They have exactly that window arrangement including the slope of the wall beneath it and we're fairly sure it was originally a coal chute. In their case the other side of it is clearly present at the edge of te road. Where would the other side be in your case? It wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that you've discovered another room as it would explain the draft nicely. In my in-laws house the same cellar arrangement extends under the neighbours house and the air in the two connects though gaps in the wall That's even though the neighbours house wouldn't have been built at the same time as the cellar so it must have been under something else originally if you seee what I mean. How about puffing some coloured smoke into the hole and seeing if it magically appears somewhere interesting? |
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On 9 Oct, 15:05, Calvin wrote:
wrote: Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. The front of the cellar: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarSta... The rear of the cellar: (anyone guess what the strange window-like feature is?) http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarRea... The noisy windy crack in the floor: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/floorFaul... The geological fault seen on the walls: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/leftFault... http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/Rightfaul... T Where abouts in the country are you? That looks amazingly similar to the cellar in my in-laws house in the Midlands. *That part of their house is c17 or c18 depending on which experts you talk to and which bits they are looking at. They have exactly that window arrangement including the slope of the wall beneath it and we're fairly sure it was originally a coal chute. In their case the other side of it is clearly present at the edge of te road. *Where would the other side be in your case? It wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that you've discovered another room as it would explain the draft nicely. *In my in-laws house the same cellar arrangement extends under the neighbours house and the air in the two connects though gaps in the wall * That's even though the neighbours house wouldn't have been built at the same time as the cellar so it must have been under something else originally if you seee what I mean. How about puffing some coloured smoke into the hole and seeing if it magically appears somewhere interesting? That's fascinating. I'm in Oxfordshire, but only just - Warwickshire is just a stone's throw away. The nearest well known landmark would be Edge Hill. The house is C17, before coal was used much round here, but not before ale houses at the side of the road were common. I'm becomming more convinced that the ground level was lower, and this was a chute for supplying whatever was stored or brewed down there. I spoke to a conservation officer recently who said it was typical of a C17 ale cellar. I must say that I'm surprised that an arched ceiling constructed from mud and stone - ie. there isn't any lime in the mortar, has lasted this well. In fact, there isn't really any mortar either - it's just the subsoil! As for the wind from the crack in the floor, the only conceivable place it could come from is an opening in a small valley about 200m away. It keeps the air fresh down there anyway... T |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
... Mary Fisher wrote: wrote in message strange noises come through the crack from time to time. That's wonderful! Yup. thats what wind is. Strange noises coming through the crack ;-) Not sure I'd call it 'wonderful ' tho... Perhaps your Austrian neighbour has the same kind of cellar, and he keeps his 'other' family down there? -- R. |
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On 9 Oct, 15:05, Calvin wrote: wrote: Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out.. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. The front of the cellar: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarSta.... The rear of the cellar: (anyone guess what the strange window-like feature is?) http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarRea.... The noisy windy crack in the floor: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/floorFaul.... The geological fault seen on the walls: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/leftFault.... http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/Rightfaul.... T Where abouts in the country are you? That looks amazingly similar to the cellar in my in-laws house in the Midlands. �That part of their house is c17 or c18 depending on which experts you talk to and which bits they are looking at. They have exactly that window arrangement including the slope of the wall beneath it and we're fairly sure it was originally a coal chute. In their case the other side of it is clearly present at the edge of te road. �Where would the other side be in your case? It wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that you've discovered another room as it would explain the draft nicely. �In my in-laws house the same cellar arrangement extends under the neighbours house and the air in the two connects though gaps in the wall � That's even though the neighbours house wouldn't have been built at the same time as the cellar so it must have been under something else originally if you seee what I mean. How about puffing some coloured smoke into the hole and seeing if it magically appears somewhere interesting? That's fascinating. I'm in Oxfordshire, but only just - Warwickshire is just a stone's throw away. The nearest well known landmark would be Edge Hill. The house is C17, before coal was used much round here, but not before ale houses at the side of the road were common. I'm becomming more convinced that the ground level was lower, and this was a chute for supplying whatever was stored or brewed down there. I spoke to a conservation officer recently who said it was typical of a C17 ale cellar. I must say that I'm surprised that an arched ceiling constructed from mud and stone - ie. there isn't any lime in the mortar, has lasted this well. In fact, there isn't really any mortar either - it's just the subsoil! As for the wind from the crack in the floor, the only conceivable place it could come from is an opening in a small valley about 200m away. It keeps the air fresh down there anyway... T That would be about 30 miles as the crow flies from my in-law's house. |
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wrote in message ... That's fascinating. I'm in Oxfordshire, but only just - Warwickshire is just a stone's throw away. The nearest well known landmark would be Edge Hill. The house is C17, before coal was used much round here, but not before ale houses at the side of the road were common. I'm becomming more convinced that the ground level was lower, It usually was. and this was a chute for supplying whatever was stored or brewed down there. I spoke to a conservation officer recently who said it was typical of a C17 ale cellar. I must say that I'm surprised that an arched ceiling constructed from mud and stone - ie. there isn't any lime in the mortar, has lasted this well. In fact, there isn't really any mortar either - it's just the subsoil! That's how they were made :-) As for the wind from the crack in the floor, the only conceivable place it could come from is an opening in a small valley about 200m away. It keeps the air fresh down there anyway... Have you tried any method of tracing the wind to that opening? Mary T |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:05:21 GMT, EricP
wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 03:35:29 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. You could have got a TV company interested in this. Considerably more interesting than most of the crap on. Fill it in again and call in Timeteam. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.sandrila.co.uk/ http://www.pherber.com/ |
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On 9 Oct, 20:53, Tim S wrote:
coughed up some electrons that declared: Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. The front of the cellar: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarSta... The rear of the cellar: (anyone guess what the strange window-like feature is?) http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarRea... The noisy windy crack in the floor: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/floorFaul... The geological fault seen on the walls: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/leftFault... http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/Rightfaul... T Now I'm back from work and can look at your piccies, I must add... You lucky sod! Any idea what you'll do with it? Wine/beer cellar? Fit it out for a small office? Workshop? Cheers Tim A wine/beer cellar sounds a good idea! Actually, now that it's repointed, limewashed, and has a limecrete floor (leaving the fault open to let the air in) it's looking quite bright and inviting. My wife is determined to have an occasional firkin of ale (Hooky bitter), and I shall certainly have a wine rack or two. We will also be clamping our allotment produce down there, and perhaps hanging a ham. I'd also like to try my hand at cheese making. T |
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wrote in message ... A wine/beer cellar sounds a good idea! Actually, now that it's repointed, limewashed, and has a limecrete floor (leaving the fault open to let the air in) it's looking quite bright and inviting. My wife is determined to have an occasional firkin of ale (Hooky bitter), and I shall certainly have a wine rack or two. We will also be clamping our allotment produce down there, and perhaps hanging a ham. I'd also like to try my hand at cheese making. T You can go right off some folk! It would be really good to know what you do despite my envy. Mary |
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On 10 Oct, 09:41, wrote:
On 9 Oct, 20:53, Tim S wrote: coughed up some electrons that declared: Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. The front of the cellar: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarSta... The rear of the cellar: (anyone guess what the strange window-like feature is?) http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarRea... The noisy windy crack in the floor: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/floorFaul... The geological fault seen on the walls: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/leftFault... http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/Rightfaul... T Now I'm back from work and can look at your piccies, I must add... You lucky sod! Any idea what you'll do with it? Wine/beer cellar? Fit it out for a small office? Workshop? Cheers Tim A wine/beer cellar sounds a good idea! Actually, now that it's repointed, limewashed, and has a limecrete floor (leaving the fault open to let the air in) it's looking quite bright and inviting. My wife is determined to have an occasional firkin of ale (Hooky bitter), and I shall certainly have a wine rack or two. We will also be clamping our allotment produce down there, and perhaps hanging a ham. I'd also like to try my hand at cheese making. T Tom, I'm getting curious about what type of house is on top of this fascinating cellar. Any chance of a pic or description of the house itself ? And how did you find the cellar - where are the stairs from the house, etc. ? I need to know the whole story ! Simon. |
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On 10 Oct, 09:41, wrote: On 9 Oct, 20:53, Tim S wrote: coughed up some electrons that declared: Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. The front of the cellar: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarSta... The rear of the cellar: (anyone guess what the strange window-like feature is?) http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarRea... The noisy windy crack in the floor: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/floorFaul... The geological fault seen on the walls: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/leftFault... http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/Rightfaul... T Now I'm back from work and can look at your piccies, I must add... You lucky sod! Any idea what you'll do with it? Wine/beer cellar? Fit it out for a small office? Workshop? Cheers Tim A wine/beer cellar sounds a good idea! Actually, now that it's repointed, limewashed, and has a limecrete floor (leaving the fault open to let the air in) it's looking quite bright and inviting. My wife is determined to have an occasional firkin of ale (Hooky bitter), and I shall certainly have a wine rack or two. We will also be clamping our allotment produce down there, and perhaps hanging a ham. I'd also like to try my hand at cheese making. T Tom, I'm getting curious about what type of house is on top of this fascinating cellar. Any chance of a pic or description of the house itself ? And how did you find the cellar - where are the stairs from the house, etc. ? I need to know the whole story ! Simon. Seconded - come on, tell all. I'm really jealous as it looks fantastic. John |
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On 10 Oct, 10:36, "John" wrote:
sm_jamieson wrote: On 10 Oct, 09:41, wrote: On 9 Oct, 20:53, Tim S wrote: coughed up some electrons that declared: Here's some pics of my cellar which I recently discovered and dug out. When it's windy outside, a cool breeze blows in through the geological fault in the floor. It's a bit strange so I've decided to keep it as a feature, and hopefully as a handy radon sump. The only down side is that strange noises come through the crack from time to time. The front of the cellar: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarSta... The rear of the cellar: (anyone guess what the strange window-like feature is?) http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/cellarRea... The noisy windy crack in the floor: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/floorFaul... The geological fault seen on the walls: http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/leftFault... http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...llar/Rightfaul... T Now I'm back from work and can look at your piccies, I must add... You lucky sod! Any idea what you'll do with it? Wine/beer cellar? Fit it out for a small office? Workshop? Cheers Tim A wine/beer cellar sounds a good idea! Actually, now that it's repointed, limewashed, and has a limecrete floor (leaving the fault open to let the air in) it's looking quite bright and inviting. My wife is determined to have an occasional firkin of ale (Hooky bitter), and I shall certainly have a wine rack or two. We will also be clamping our allotment produce down there, and perhaps hanging a ham. I'd also like to try my hand at cheese making. T Tom, I'm getting curious about what type of house is on top of this fascinating cellar. Any chance of a pic or description of the house itself ? And how did you find the cellar - where are the stairs from the house, etc. ? I need to know the whole story ! Simon. Seconded - come on, tell all. I'm really jealous as it looks fantastic. John I'll post a pic when I find the camera. Above the cellar is a humble ironstone rubble built cottage, that's been knocked about by generations of previous owners. At the front of the house was a 3'x2' stone slab, that had been there since we moved in. I decided to move it as I thought it might make a good floor for the porch I planned to build. Panic set in, when a hole opened up beneath it that lead diagonally under the house. A lot had been going wrong with the renovation, and a collapsing house was the last thing I needed. As far as I was aware, the house had no foundations (it has none apart from where the cellar is) and I feared the worst. There was only one thing to do, so I attached a rope round my wife's waist and lowered her through the hole. T |
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wrote in message news:f3f34cfb-5492-42e5-84e0- .... I'll post a pic when I find the camera. Did you leave it in the crypt? Above the cellar is a humble ironstone rubble built cottage, that's been knocked about by generations of previous owners. At the front of the house was a 3'x2' stone slab, that had been there since we moved in. I decided to move it as I thought it might make a good floor for the porch I planned to build. Panic set in, when a hole opened up beneath it that lead diagonally under the house. A lot had been going wrong with the renovation, and a collapsing house was the last thing I needed. As far as I was aware, the house had no foundations (it has none apart from where the cellar is) and I feared the worst. There was only one thing to do, so I attached a rope round my wife's waist and lowered her through the hole. LOL! Tom, this has to be the best thread for a long time :-) Mary |
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