A few years ago I was keen on the bargains to be had in the pound
shops but some of their goods are rarely good value: for example,
anything with an abrasive in it, like glasspaper, usually wears out
or crumbles extremely fast.

Anyway, I'm now beginning to wonder about some rubber tap washers I
got.

I bought mixed tap washers to add to some I already had. I also got
rubber or fibre versions of those usual flat-ring washers and added
those to my collection.

I can't get rid of just the pound shop rubber washers because they
are all mixed together with good rubber washers!

Is the rubber used in cheap tap washers usually naff and perishes
quickly. Or do they actually hold out well?


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Peter L wrote:
A few years ago I was keen on the bargains to be had in the pound
shops but some of their goods are rarely good value: for example,
anything with an abrasive in it, like glasspaper, usually wears out
or crumbles extremely fast.

Anyway, I'm now beginning to wonder about some rubber tap washers I
got.

I bought mixed tap washers to add to some I already had. I also got
rubber or fibre versions of those usual flat-ring washers and added
those to my collection.

I can't get rid of just the pound shop rubber washers because they
are all mixed together with good rubber washers!

Is the rubber used in cheap tap washers usually naff and perishes
quickly. Or do they actually hold out well?

I've bought kits of 'bargain' tap washers from Silverline & found them next
to useless. Far too hard to get onto the jumper assembly.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"Peter L" wrote in message
...
A few years ago I was keen on the bargains to be had in the pound
shops but some of their goods are rarely good value: for example,
anything with an abrasive in it, like glasspaper, usually wears out
or crumbles extremely fast.

Anyway, I'm now beginning to wonder about some rubber tap washers I
got.

I bought mixed tap washers to add to some I already had. I also got
rubber or fibre versions of those usual flat-ring washers and added
those to my collection.

I can't get rid of just the pound shop rubber washers because they
are all mixed together with good rubber washers!

Is the rubber used in cheap tap washers usually naff and perishes
quickly. Or do they actually hold out well?

They are unlikely to be made from a WRAS approved material. That means you
have no idea what they may be leaching into your drinking water.

Colin Bignell

"Peter L" wrote in message
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On Fri 03 Oct08 08:27, "nightjar" wrote:

"Peter L" wrote:

A few years ago I was keen on the bargains to be had in the
pound
shops but some of their goods are rarely good value: for
example, anything with an abrasive in it, like glasspaper,
usually wears out or crumbles extremely fast.

Anyway, I'm now beginning to wonder about some rubber tap
washers I got.

I bought mixed tap washers to add to some I already had. I also
got rubber or fibre versions of those usual flat-ring washers
and added those to my collection.

I can't get rid of just the pound shop rubber washers because
they are all mixed together with good rubber washers!

Is the rubber used in cheap tap washers usually naff and
perishes quickly. Or do they actually hold out well?

They are unlikely to be made from a WRAS approved material. That
means you have no idea what they may be leaching into your
drinking water.

Colin Bignell



So I guess those tap washers of mine, both good and bad, have to go
in the dustbin. :-(

But wait a minute. How much of a difference does the Water
Regulations Advisory Scheme (WRAS) make to what tap washers are used?
I mean to say, were we at risk from dodgy drinking water before WRAS
came into force?

How's your maths try this for a teaser- a tap washer weighing 5 grams which
may contain 5% of a plastisiser of which 10% may leach out over time is used
for twelve months during which 30 litres per day passed the washer how
concentrated would the solution be ? How much more would you consume if you
nibble your pen top while working this out?

Acceptable levels of pollutant in drinking water include 0.5 mg/l nitrites
: 50 mg/l nitrates 0.50 mg/l ammonium: 250 mg/l Chlorides
all hugely more and lets not get started on the pipes in houses built pre
1970. lead anybody?
Derek
and no the washers behave no differently than those from the hardware shop
and are just as easy to fit to penny on a stick type valves.

nightjar cpb@ wrote:

They are unlikely to be made from a WRAS approved material. That means you
have no idea what they may be leaching into your drinking water.

OK, so I don't use them on the single direct-from-the-mains tap in the
house that I use for drinking water.

Next?

Andy

On Oct 3, 11:05 am, Peter L wrote:

Is the rubber used in cheap tap washers usually naff and perishes
quickly. Or do they actually hold out well?

I had problems with all types of tap washers for years. The fibre ones
worked well but wore out quickly. The rubber and plastic ones made a
dreadful noise when the tap was turned on.
I solved the problem by fitting a pressure reducing valve in the main
pipe to the house. I've not had to replace a washer since.

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 20:54:48 -0700 (PDT), Matty F wrote:

On Oct 3, 11:05 am, Peter L wrote:

Is the rubber used in cheap tap washers usually naff and perishes
quickly. Or do they actually hold out well?

I had problems with all types of tap washers for years. The fibre ones
worked well but wore out quickly. The rubber and plastic ones made a
dreadful noise when the tap was turned on.
I solved the problem by fitting a pressure reducing valve in the main
pipe to the house. I've not had to replace a washer since.

There's also a tendency, on the part of some, to screw down a tap so hard
that it takes two hands to turn it on again. This will shorten the life of
any washer.

Derek wrote:

"Peter L" wrote in message
...
On Fri 03 Oct08 08:27, "nightjar" wrote:

"Peter L" wrote:

A few years ago I was keen on the bargains to be had in the
pound
shops but some of their goods are rarely good value: for
example, anything with an abrasive in it, like glasspaper,
usually wears out or crumbles extremely fast.

Anyway, I'm now beginning to wonder about some rubber tap
washers I got.

I bought mixed tap washers to add to some I already had. I also
got rubber or fibre versions of those usual flat-ring washers
and added those to my collection.

I can't get rid of just the pound shop rubber washers because
they are all mixed together with good rubber washers!

Is the rubber used in cheap tap washers usually naff and
perishes quickly. Or do they actually hold out well?

They are unlikely to be made from a WRAS approved material. That
means you have no idea what they may be leaching into your
drinking water.

Colin Bignell



So I guess those tap washers of mine, both good and bad, have to go
in the dustbin. :-(

But wait a minute. How much of a difference does the Water
Regulations Advisory Scheme (WRAS) make to what tap washers are used?
I mean to say, were we at risk from dodgy drinking water before WRAS
came into force?

How's your maths try this for a teaser- a tap washer weighing 5 grams which
may contain 5% of a plastisiser of which 10% may leach out over time is used
for twelve months during which 30 litres per day passed the washer how
concentrated would the solution be ? How much more would you consume if you
nibble your pen top while working this out?

Acceptable levels of pollutant in drinking water include 0.5 mg/l nitrites
: 50 mg/l nitrates 0.50 mg/l ammonium: 250 mg/l Chlorides
all hugely more and lets not get started on the pipes in houses built pre
1970. lead anybody?
Derek
and no the washers behave no differently than those from the hardware shop
and are just as easy to fit to penny on a stick type valves.

Yes agreed, it is typical FUD: Fear, uncertainty and doubt.

"Appelation Controlee" wrote in message
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 20:54:48 -0700 (PDT), Matty F wrote:

On Oct 3, 11:05 am, Peter L wrote:

Is the rubber used in cheap tap washers usually naff and perishes
quickly. Or do they actually hold out well?

I had problems with all types of tap washers for years. The fibre ones
worked well but wore out quickly. The rubber and plastic ones made a
dreadful noise when the tap was turned on.
I solved the problem by fitting a pressure reducing valve in the main
pipe to the house. I've not had to replace a washer since.

There's also a tendency, on the part of some, to screw down a tap so hard
that it takes two hands to turn it on again. This will shorten the life of
any washer.

I always ensure that the "H" & "C" markings are correctly oriented when the
tap is turned off enough. - Then lecture anyone who turns one too far.

John wrote:
"Appelation Controlee" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 20:54:48 -0700 (PDT), Matty F wrote:

On Oct 3, 11:05 am, Peter L wrote:

Is the rubber used in cheap tap washers usually naff and perishes
quickly. Or do they actually hold out well?
I had problems with all types of tap washers for years. The fibre ones
worked well but wore out quickly. The rubber and plastic ones made a
dreadful noise when the tap was turned on.
I solved the problem by fitting a pressure reducing valve in the main
pipe to the house. I've not had to replace a washer since.
There's also a tendency, on the part of some, to screw down a tap so hard
that it takes two hands to turn it on again. This will shorten the life of
any washer.

I always ensure that the "H" & "C" markings are correctly oriented when the
tap is turned off enough. - Then lecture anyone who turns one too far.


that's fine until they twist it past and try and go round again :-)
Kevin R
Reply address works

Peter L wrote:
On Sat 04 Oct08 06:18, Appelation Controlee wrote
in :

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 20:54:48 -0700 (PDT), Matty F wrote:

On Oct 3, 11:05 am, Peter L wrote:

Is the rubber used in cheap tap washers usually naff and
perishes quickly. Or do they actually hold out well?

I had problems with all types of tap washers for years. The
fibre ones worked well but wore out quickly. The rubber and
plastic ones made a dreadful noise when the tap was turned on.
I solved the problem by fitting a pressure reducing valve in
the main pipe to the house. I've not had to replace a washer
since.

There's also a tendency, on the part of some, to screw down a
tap so hard that it takes two hands to turn it on again. This
will shorten the life of any washer.

Some people in my household have also been seen using that sort of
force when closing our taps too!

I was wondering if the rubber used in the cheapo washers is made
of a coumpound so crap that they broke down readily (like the
cheap abrasive products in pound shops).

I think its too hard, which encourages people to use more force to turn the
tap off. The ones I buy at my local 'proper' plumbing shop are much softer.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"Peter L" wrote in message
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On Fri 03 Oct08 19:36, Derek
wrote in
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Hello Derek. Phew that makes for a worry! I was looking for inf
on the probability of that sort of level of dangerous pollution
occurring in any tap washer.

It varies, there have been incidences of accidental pollution.


I hope what you describe was not typical of washers sold in the UK
in conventional plumbing shops until the Water Regs were
introduced.
Wouldn't know myself, but UK used to install lead pipes for water.

I also HOPE that the level of danger you describe is
not likely in ultra-cheap imported washers. If you see what I
mean.

I'm not sure just how well such things are tested, but as with anything
cheap
from the pound shops from sandpaper (50 sheets of stuff as useful for
sanding
as toilet paper) to tumblers and plastic tupperwear you assume it's safe.
For that reason I've never brought food from poundshops.


It is that sort of thing I would like to know more about. Could
you help with that? Thank you.

I've never thought of tape washers or even tumblers/glasses being safe
from contaminants, but if a reputable company in china can put dodgy
chemicals in baby milk, I won't be wiping my arse on toilet paper from
china,
you never know what might be in the paper and destroying more than
just your klingons.