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Opening/removing SUPRA key-safe.
"Man at B&Q" wrote in message ... On Sep 4, 6:10 pm, "dennis@home" wrote: "Man at B&Q" wrote in ... On Sep 3, 9:11 am, "dennis@home" wrote: "OG" wrote in message ... These are the mechanical ones you may see on internal doors in offices. Hit the right 4 buttons and turn the knob. It doesn't matter which order you hit the buttons. Except mine is set to six digits to press so you will never find it. Do the maths. You may be surprised. Assuming we're playing by the same rules of order unimportant and no digits repeated. You do the math, no four digit presses will open it. There are about 3,500,000 combinations if you have to try 1,2,...10 digit numbers. Well, in that case no 3-digit presses will open a lock expecting four. Exactly, so why are you telling me the odds for four digits? Prat! If the hat fits. MBQ |
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On Sep 5, 2:00*pm, "dennis@home"
wrote: "Man at B&Q" wrote in ... On Sep 4, 6:10 pm, "dennis@home" wrote: "Man at B&Q" wrote in ... On Sep 3, 9:11 am, "dennis@home" wrote: "OG" wrote in message ... These are the mechanical ones you may see on internal doors in offices. Hit the right 4 buttons and turn the knob. It doesn't matter which order you hit the buttons. Except mine is set to six digits to press so you will never find it.. Do the maths. You may be surprised. Assuming we're playing by the same rules of order unimportant and no digits repeated. You do the math, no four digit presses will open it. There are about 3,500,000 combinations if you have to try 1,2,...10 digit numbers. Well, in that case no 3-digit presses will open a lock expecting four. Exactly, so why are you telling me the odds for four digits? I didn't Prat! If the hat fits. It certainly fits you! |
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"Man at B&Q" wrote in message ... On Sep 5, 2:00 pm, "dennis@home" wrote: "Man at B&Q" wrote in ... On Sep 4, 6:10 pm, "dennis@home" wrote: "Man at B&Q" wrote in ... On Sep 3, 9:11 am, "dennis@home" wrote: "OG" wrote in message ... These are the mechanical ones you may see on internal doors in offices. Hit the right 4 buttons and turn the knob. It doesn't matter which order you hit the buttons. Except mine is set to six digits to press so you will never find it. Do the maths. You may be surprised. Assuming we're playing by the same rules of order unimportant and no digits repeated. You do the math, no four digit presses will open it. There are about 3,500,000 combinations if you have to try 1,2,...10 digit numbers. Well, in that case no 3-digit presses will open a lock expecting four. Exactly, so why are you telling me the odds for four digits? I didn't You did, read your posts. Prat! If the hat fits. It certainly fits you! As I said if the hat fits. Now go away. |
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On 3 Sep, 09:11, "dennis@home" wrote:
Hit the right 4 buttons and turn the knob. It doesn't matter which order you hit the buttons. Except mine is set to six digits to press so you will never find it. So how much better is choosing 6 (sequence independent) buttons out of 10, compared to 4 out of 10? |
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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 3 Sep, 09:11, "dennis@home" wrote: Hit the right 4 buttons and turn the knob. It doesn't matter which order you hit the buttons. Except mine is set to six digits to press so you will never find it. So how much better is choosing 6 (sequence independent) buttons out of 10, compared to 4 out of 10? Well the man at B&Q would never get it as he would only try 4 digit codes. Its the same with the push button door locks, they come set to five digits so if you change it to four or six that gets rid of quite a few people that think they have to try all the five button codes. |
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On Sep 5, 5:54*pm, "dennis@home"
wrote: Do the maths. You may be surprised. Assuming we're playing by the same rules of order unimportant and no digits repeated. You do the math, no four digit presses will open it. There are about 3,500,000 combinations if you have to try 1,2,...10 digit numbers. Well, in that case no 3-digit presses will open a lock expecting four. |
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On 5 Sep, 20:40, Andy Champ wrote:
Or if you like, consider that picking six is the same as not-picking four. *So same odds. Obviously 8-) I'm just taunting Dennis the Genius to see if he gets it yet. |
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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 5 Sep, 20:40, Andy Champ wrote: Or if you like, consider that picking six is the same as not-picking four. So same odds. Obviously 8-) I'm just taunting Dennis the Genius to see if he gets it yet. Statistically its incorrect and as far as users go its more incorrect so if you think posting cr@p is taunting I suppose you are an expert in it. |
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dennis@home wrote:
"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 5 Sep, 20:40, Andy Champ wrote: Or if you like, consider that picking six is the same as not-picking four. So same odds. Obviously 8-) I'm just taunting Dennis the Genius to see if he gets it yet. Statistically its incorrect and as far as users go its more incorrect so if you think posting cr@p is taunting I suppose you are an expert in it. He's baiting you Dennis, you seem to be a master at that... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 6 Sep, 08:05, "dennis@home" wrote:
"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 5 Sep, 20:40, Andy Champ wrote: Or if you like, consider that picking six is the same as not-picking four. So same odds. Obviously *8-) * I'm just taunting Dennis the Genius to see if he gets it yet. Statistically its incorrect and as far as users go its more incorrect so if you think posting cr@p is taunting I suppose you are an expert in it. So what's wrong with it? You have a lock with 10 identical buttons where the combination can be set to be either 4 or 6 buttons pressed (once each, in any order) and the remainder are unpressed. Does choosing 4 buttons or 6 buttons offer the most combinations? Why? |
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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 6 Sep, 08:05, "dennis@home" wrote: "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 5 Sep, 20:40, Andy Champ wrote: Or if you like, consider that picking six is the same as not-picking four. So same odds. Obviously 8-) I'm just taunting Dennis the Genius to see if he gets it yet. Statistically its incorrect and as far as users go its more incorrect so if you think posting cr@p is taunting I suppose you are an expert in it. So what's wrong with it? You have a lock with 10 identical buttons where the combination can be set to be either 4 or 6 buttons pressed (once each, in any order) and the remainder are unpressed. Does choosing 4 buttons or 6 buttons offer the most combinations? Why? Its obvious, think about it for a while. If you can't think why ask your mom or a school chum. |
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On Sep 6, 2:13*pm, "dennis@home"
wrote: "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 6 Sep, 08:05, "dennis@home" wrote: "Andy Dingley" wrote in message .... On 5 Sep, 20:40, Andy Champ wrote: Or if you like, consider that picking six is the same as not-picking four. So same odds. Obviously 8-) I'm just taunting Dennis the Genius to see if he gets it yet. Statistically its incorrect and as far as users go its more incorrect so if you think posting cr@p is taunting I suppose you are an expert in it. So what's wrong with it? *You have a lock with 10 identical buttons where the combination can be set to be either 4 or 6 buttons pressed (once each, in any order) and the remainder are unpressed. Does choosing 4 buttons or 6 buttons offer the most combinations? Why? Its obvious, think about it for a while. If you can't think why ask your mom or a school chum. He's asking you |
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"Man at B&Q" wrote in message ... On Sep 6, 2:13 pm, "dennis@home" wrote: "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 6 Sep, 08:05, "dennis@home" wrote: "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 5 Sep, 20:40, Andy Champ wrote: Or if you like, consider that picking six is the same as not-picking four. So same odds. Obviously 8-) I'm just taunting Dennis the Genius to see if he gets it yet. Statistically its incorrect and as far as users go its more incorrect so if you think posting cr@p is taunting I suppose you are an expert in it. So what's wrong with it? You have a lock with 10 identical buttons where the combination can be set to be either 4 or 6 buttons pressed (once each, in any order) and the remainder are unpressed. Does choosing 4 buttons or 6 buttons offer the most combinations? Why? Its obvious, think about it for a while. If you can't think why ask your mom or a school chum. He's asking you Well you tell him then. I see no reason to tell either of you. |
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dennis@home wrote:
"Man at B&Q" wrote in message ... On Sep 6, 2:13 pm, "dennis@home" wrote: "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 6 Sep, 08:05, "dennis@home" wrote: "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 5 Sep, 20:40, Andy Champ wrote: Or if you like, consider that picking six is the same as not-picking four. So same odds. Obviously 8-) I'm just taunting Dennis the Genius to see if he gets it yet. Statistically its incorrect and as far as users go its more incorrect so if you think posting cr@p is taunting I suppose you are an expert in it. So what's wrong with it? You have a lock with 10 identical buttons where the combination can be set to be either 4 or 6 buttons pressed (once each, in any order) and the remainder are unpressed. Does choosing 4 buttons or 6 buttons offer the most combinations? Why? Its obvious, think about it for a while. If you can't think why ask your mom or a school chum. He's asking you Well you tell him then. I see no reason to tell either of you. Ner ner ne ner ner. I'm telling my Mum of you. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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